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There a number of things I like about this costume.
1) the cut of the top. Cleavage.
2) the garter belt.
3) the opera gloves and optional spikes
4) the thigh high boots. Stiletto heels
5) I'm not so hot about the skull ornaments
6) [b]the eye make up.[/b] [u]This is a MUST. Flesh Forge, if nothing else: please include eye make up like this for launch![/u]
7) The sword. please include options so that every weapon can look unique
8) the collar/choker meshing with the cape and the straps. nice design
9) the spectacular hair, big poofy hair is a must at launch
10) the cape is only attached at the collar and leaves the shoulders bare. I like that.
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ALL OF THIS!
a couple other ideas
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and
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The sleeves don't have to be like that, then can be tight.
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that top is awesome sauce! several sleeve options should be available.
Flesh Forge...this is another one needed for launch! so many things this could go with!
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I have two characters in my comic book universe who have versions of those sleeves (tight of course).
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The more straps and buckles I can get with my leotard is a good thing :) Loved my Heavy Buckle Boots and Gloves in CoH!
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Here is another one I am enchanted with. The costume has all sorts of win built in. this is an OC from the COH days.
these are the features that stand out to me
1) the ornate loin cloth. it is spectacular!we need a range of loin cloths. this one could even go over a robe.
2) the cleavage armor. Very genre. another must.
3) the ornate shoulder and arm armor,
4) Thigh high stiletto boots with garter belt and armor bits.
5) the armored collar tying the shoulder pieces together
6) the winged headdress and forehead gem. classic.
7) spectacular hair with physics.
8) of course, the wings.
[b]Twice now we have garter belts.[/b] these are leather and strap to the corset armor. Flesh Forge, [u]this is a basic MUST have.[/u]
[u]Corsets are another must,[/u] laced or armored. they should be able to fit over clothing or in place of. cupless or cupped (like wonderwoman's).
A cupless black lace corset could go nicely over a royal blue gown. basic accessories.
so many important pieces so little time before fall 2018.
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Hmm, big round cleavage windows, garter belts and straps, and giant boo...ts with tall heels.
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Sounds like a fun night out on the town, huh? ;)
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Makes the world go round...Classic comic costuming. Its a must have for launch!
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Halos and other floating headpieces, with various effects (fire, frost, glow...) and geometry besides the standard ring (squared off, jagged/discontinuous, ghostly, cloud, insect swarm)
Horns and upward projections, in a wide selection that doesn't all look like tradition one- or two-horned demonic (plantlike, alien, tech, metal spikes...)
Combining "horns" and "halos" makes for some impressive headgear, like the organic glowing horns and metallic glowing halo in CoH.
Some of the recent costume suggestions seem a little...provocative. To that I would say every town has a night life and with the night life comes club wear. Add in a culture that is heavily influenced by wild and colorful costumes in the daylight, expect the nightlife to magnify that influence dramatically. This is discussed a little in the Wearing the Cape books, but it makes sense. I could totally see Sister (see image left) dressing up for a night out in a more...colorful costume.
Back on topic. Ravens costume from the 2016 Teen Titans: Rebirth is pretty cool. There's a bit more detailing in it and it's got everyone's favorite thigh high boots. The feathery cowl. Long gloves and leather bodice. Good stuff.
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Can't lie. I think it sucks. Not because it looks bad, but because it feels as it it comes from the idea of "Can't wear leotards!"
Even more so, since some of the changes seem to be about the movies. "You know, we could do a leotard in the movie but people might complain, so let's change it and then we can say we're staying faithful to the comic."
I wouldn't argue with your belief that recent costume suggestions in this thread could be considered generically "provocative" by some. But I would also point out that one of the examples from the last few posts comes directly from a published comic book and the other is an artist's depiction of costume items that were collectively available for PCs in CoH. It's hard to draw the line at declaring that something like this may be "too risqué" for CoT when it either already appears in a comic book or already existed in CoH.
Now clearly we wouldn't want the Devs of CoT to jeopardize their goal of keeping this game "T for Teen" rated. I'm merely suggesting that in this day and age you can actually get away with many "questionable" costuming options and not technically cross into "adult only" territory. For better or worse the bar on that is already set pretty low.
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To each their own. I tend to like the "don't use spandex and leotards" motif. There are some costumes that do it well and others that do not. I think for monochromatic characters like Raven it's more critical to have a more detail rich costume than someone like Robin who frequently sports green, red, yellow, and black elements. I am not a fan of the hair change on Raven though, blech. The individual pieces are more important to my request than the total ensemble. I've a stormie that would like to use that feathery mantel.
Lothic, please don't take my first line out of context. I immediately follow with a justification for why those types of things ought to be allowed in the game. Perhaps in-eloquently, but overall my post is pro-free-expression. I believe firmly that players ought to be able to be who they want to be. Part of what made COH good for me was that I could escape my real world and be someone unique and different. I wouldn't dream of taking that away from someone else seeking to do the same in whatever form they want. (within the T rating)
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*dreams of Mr. Boots*
*heavy sigh*
*raucous trilling*
I vote for Golden/Silver Age outfitting, including leotards with "undies on the outside" and more modest costumes from the aforementioned eras. Please. Pretty please!
*cajoling kitty eyes*
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As you say different things work for different characters. For example I can appreciate the following versions of Wonder Woman's and Batgirl's costumes for different reasons based on their contexts. Even when considering a single character sometimes the "spandex/leotard" look works and sometimes it doesn't.
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Perhaps I overreacted to your particular word choice and for that I apologize. Unfortunately I've seen too many people (both players and Devs alike) condemn legitimate suggestions in this forum using vaguely subjective dog-whistle adjectives like "inappropriate, vulgar or naughty" to attack things that may not realistically (or at least debatably) be any of those things in their own context.
Frankly as far as the Devs are concerned it can be easier to label something as "socially distasteful" as an excuse for not adding it to the game than to simply admit that they just don't have the time, money or smarts to handle it appropriately. It makes some sense in the greater scheme - if you can dismiss a proposed feature as somehow morally illegitimate you don't have to admit you don't know how it do it even when there might be multiple examples of that feature being implemented in other games to draw upon. The pointless BS simply frustrates me from time to time.
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Wait. How would anything we've seen requested compromise the T for Teen rating? CoH had a T for Teen rating and you could run around in a string bikini in CoH.
Nothing shown in this thread has been risque.
The character models of CoH, which were outdated at release, are no comparison to what we are likely to get in CoT. Also, the entertainment landscape was very different in 2004-2008 than it is today.
Game ratings are not court rulings and precedent is not set with previous ratings. What CoH showed has effectively zero bearing on what CoT will show.
To be clear, I am not saying that any costume suggestions in this thread are inappropriate or shouldn't be included, just that using CoH as a way to justify somethings inclusion isn't a good argument.
Maybe, however I'd still say that none of it is risque. It wasn't risque in CoH, it's not risque now.
Not to be argumentative but I personally think that CoH had costumes and characters specifically designed to be risque. The Witch costume and the Succubus mob to just name two.
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With the fairly limited models in CoH they are not overly sexual but their intent was to be risque.
Now imagine those costume on recent more detailed character model, or just look at these to see how the character model has an influence on the sexual nature of the costume.
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Both are designed to be 'risque' but one is obviously more sexual because of the more advanced models.
Again, there isn't anything wrong with risque or even sexualized costumes/models but to think that you can just use CoH's costumes as a metric and apply it to CoT without considering modern models or current political climate would be a mistake IMO.
Oh gawd. I hope the game isn't ruined by something like political climate.
That said, I can totally believe the people making the game can screw up it up by doing so!
Agreed. [b]Political Correctness RUINS everything it touches.[/b]
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I don't think either of you understand the term 'political climate'.
It's not something the devs can screw the game up with and it is not political correctness, at all.
It's the shifting mood of the general populace either a result of or resulting in policy changes, usually both. The political climate can affect everything from how much a chocolate bar costs to which wars are fought. It most assuredly has an affect on a games rating.
I have no problem with MWM pushing the teen rating boundary (and no costumes in this thread even goes that far IMO) but in order for them to do so they first need to know where that boundary is. This 'rebel without a reason' attitude is just pissing against the wind, it's fun at first but before long you're gonna get wet.
My original intent was to answer Brand X's question but I can see now it wasn't an actual question. It was an argument in question form, leading and rhetorical if you will. Completely my fault for not seeing it at first.
With that I am stopping and I apologize for derailing the thread.
Well, 'daring' costumes can always be added later, after the game turns out great.
But, no matter what limitations there are on costumes, someone's gonna try to make the Great Penisman and get genericed for it. And Naked Girl is going to show up numerous times. Just in the nature of gamers.
What I'm hoping for, is that the costumes look so Good, in general, that people will want to display those costumes and not get hung up on the skin under them.
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Fireheart
While I can understand that the costumes of Phantom Lady, Black Canary, and Power Girl are designed to distract Naughty Spawns, I, as a roleplayer, prefer to costume my creations in apparel germane to the character herself. This generally means the more modest styles of the Golden or Silver Ages combined with the functionality of a front-line crimebuster. My costumes generally are covering head-to-toe, with only the eyes, philtrum, lips, and chin visible.
I can understand that comics, old and new, generally pander to the male demographic and that, in video games, male players like to utilize female characters, as they prefer to look at female bums rather than male ones.
I think that this entire "how much is too much?" discussion reflects a straying from the moral compass which is endemic in today's society as a whole.
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True Fireheart, although most examples for costumes come from comics, where clearly the proportions of females are exaggerations. In the end, the costume should fit the character. In CoH I had a mind control female named Temptress, and her look was "tempting" . I don't think the character creator can make things any worse than what teens can see in T for teen comics these days.
Just watching their current video showing all past live streams. The two male characters looked like crap. So, I think we're safe on the risque factor. The graphics did not look like an improvement over CoH at all.
I don't know. I didn't think they were that bad. It seems like they need some shading elements to make them a little more realistic, but otherwise a good start..
It may not be the finished product when it comes to character models. However, if it is, they're crap and I feel like we'll be safe on any risque factor posters have mentioned. :)
Back to suggestions: [b]Firing point pets[/b]
[b]RINGS.[/b] plain various kinds, worn outside of gloves...and these need to be FIRING POINTS! (animation: just a fist)
[b]Various floating pets.[/b] More firing points. [u]Further, none of these have any animation involved.[/u]
Geometric objects, like Hexagons and DnD dice.
Eyeballs.
Orbs...customizable to a death star look alike.
Gems/Crystals size of fist size and up.
Various floating guns
[u]These floating pets require some animation[/u]
Eyeballs: will look around, focus on targeted victim.
Drones you can accessorize...have your own unique technological terror floating over your shoulder. Blinking lights, moving guns.
Human faces...yeah a little creepy but there is a DC character Firestorm that has this.
A halo of hearts, stars, gems, eyes, mystic symbols, letters, etc orbiting around your forehead.
and you can purchase all this and more at the company store!
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Speaking of animations...
Would MWM want to accommodate animations for irreverent screwball supers? Imagine Deadpool with a ring that could shoot energy blasts. You know he would only jokingly do the 'just a fist' classic power stance. It would be snarky poses, rhythmic ribbon gymnastics and the like doing trick shots and whatnot.
Hmm, would it be possible to support firing points from multiple rings on one or more hands (to represent different blast powers)? Or maybe some sort of bracer or gauntlet with different colored gems that light up before a power fires off (economy of animation).
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Correct me if I'm completely wrong but isn't that done just to visualize to us readers/viewers who it is that is talking, it's not actually visible to others?
yes, but it would be really creepy if it shot energy beams from its eyes or mouth.
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The thing that people seem to be missing here is that individual costume items are not generally going to be the problem. The real key is how players choose to use them in various combinations.
For instance let's say the game provides a very tight corset type item like Wonder Woman traditionally wore. By itself the corset might be a bit "racy" but let's say I choose to have a character wear an unzipped jacket over the corset. Bits of the corset might still be visible under the jacket but with the jacket on there's no longer that much raciness there at all.
Let's not get too carried away with arbitrarily declaring any single specific type of costume item to be universally "naughty" without considering there could be plenty of acceptable uses for just about anything imaginable. As you point out there will always be random idiots out there who'll try to create "The Great Penisman" and such but we shouldn't let our expectation of those goofballs ruin the chance to get items that might have plenty of non-controversial applications.
You do realize there was a time not extremely long ago when it was considered "socially unacceptable" for women to reveal their uncovered ankles in public and perfectly acceptable for men to wear stockings and for parents to clothe their baby boys in pink dresses. While it's totally reasonable for game Devs to decide what clothing items may be specifically considered "too provocative" for a "T for teen" rating in 2017 the idea that we need to consider this topic of discussion a symptom of general moral degradation is laughably naïve and counter-productive.
Clothing options are not inherently moral or amoral - what people do with them is the issue at hand. If somebody figures out a way to use the game's costume items in a way that might offend someone that person (as Fireheart mentioned) will always be free to report the alleged offender and let a GM decide.
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Cyclops continues to stir controversy and rile the SJWs.
(actually this one is rather tame as COT already revealed a plunging neckline spandex option. that said, this is rather nice and fits with easy spandex costume options. Do it, FleshForge! You know you want too![/subliminal typing OFF])
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don't fall over but I'm not posting this for the cleavage options,
I like the placement of the blades.
Forearm blades are a great option for claws.
The back facing boot blades look wonderful, but would require all new animation.
Still Wolverines daughter has adamantium foot blades (forward facing), and would make existing savate and karate kick animations all the more deadly.
I would like to request various kinds of forward facing boot blades.
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Hmmm. while I am posting ideas. One of the devs said we will have whips.
Would it take a whole lot of animation to use a long ponytail as a whip?
lets say a full head of hair and a strand lashed out to attack?
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I guess you can tell I'm bored this morning. still posting ideas is something useful.
here is an idea. its spikey, raggedy and has [b]TWO floating shoulder pets.[/b] designed your own floating pets will allow for awesome creativity!
[u]We have two shoulders, lets have TWO shoulder pets![/u]
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One shoulder Angel, one shoulder Demon. Or other subconscious manifestations. ^_^
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I might be influenced by 'Sober Guy' and 'Drunk Guy'... or not.
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Fireheart
All new animations for kicks? No not really, at least if they can make the blade "fold out" so it goes in line with the leg instead of perpendicular. That way they can use existing ones with just a little adjustment to have the foot "miss" instead of connect with the target. Of course, adding the animation so that we can also choose to "back kick" and use the foot blades in piercing form as is wouldn't be bad.
Though thinking a bit more I'm not sure that there would be any animation that would be utterly exclusive to these foot blades, they would most likely just need a few tweaks and be able to be used as normal MA moves.
Oddly enough I really like this design, though I generally ABHOR excessive/superfluous spikes (and chains and skulls, etc.).
I think it's that it's got nice coloration and has a bit more of an organic/feathery feel to it rather than "RAWR GRIM DARK HELLSPAWN LOOK AT MY SPIKED EVERYTHING THAT WOULD MURDER ME A DOZEN TIMES WITH EVERY MOVEMENT I MADE IF THIS WERE AT ALL REALISTIC!"
If you can shrug and injure yourself, you have too many spikes. If you can shrug and it provides adequate head protection in place of a helmet, your pauldrons are too large.
An infinite number of tries doesn't mean that any one of those tries will succeed. I could flip an infinite number of pennies an infinite number of times and, barring genuine randomness, they will never come up "Waffles".
There are plenty of examples of hair being used like whips in anime and whether CoT would ever be able to support that is one thing. But I'd probably be happy enough to get a "non-combat power" ponytail hairstyle like the following (assuming of course it'd be properly animated):
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Of course having the costume items shown in these pics to match would be nice too...
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I'd like robust visor options for helmets and such. One I'd want in particular, is a visor in the shape of a birds beak. Just like my avatar. :D
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Another wonderful work of art.
1) the hair. Spectacular! big poofy hair designed to bounce and flounce. Its almost "I Dream of Jeanie Like."
2) The shoulder pieces. More ornate than armor. minimal but a great touch.
3) the blouse, Look at the sleeves. ornamented over sleeves and a baloon sleeve under that. with Armored bracers. magnificent.
4) [b]the sash! This is why I posted the pic. its affixed with a side badge and chain. its long and dripping with awesome.[/b]
5) thigh high boots/stilleto heels. Cause if your going to chase a perp, you need to do it wearing heels.
if nothing else...[u]We need that sash![/u]
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Okay, I'm glad you pointed out the parts you like, because, otherwise, one might have to conclude that you only care about the ridiculously bare cleavage. Button that shirt up a little more, and it's a nice, dramatic costume.
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The only thing holding those shoulders up is Artistic Disbelief. Seriously. There are no shoulder straps to keep them "up" on her shoulders. In the presence of GRAVITY they'd fall down her arms, because ... metal.
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I think most of my pics in this thread have been of men (this page excluded). But OK I will post for my own gender here.
This is one I was planning to post anyways
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I like this for the dual pistols and the sword. Its a combo that I really like.
1) the Leather jacket. It give a hint of armor underneath. I like the stiff leather collar and the fastening in front.
2) the gauntlets. I love them. again there is a hint of hidden armor. and I love the subtle glowy bits.
3) the glowy bits. they give a high technology feel to the retro look. Note the subtle placement in the gauntlets the belts, the holsters and even the pommel. glowy stuff can be overdone, but this is just right.
4) The cut of the jacket does not interfere with drawing the guns, this is a must for dual pistols
the jacket and gauntlets are why I posted this pic.
BUT
Its the combo of pistols and sword use that inspire all sorts of concepts.
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I was looking around for some retro scifi stuff that would work well in the Orbit room.
Robot. I don't understand why no one paints modern robots gold and gives them glowing joints. It's better.
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I feel like I saw this guy on Tattooine once.
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Hair, cool. Bracers/gloves, good. Random ventilation lines, great. Dat raygun tho. Yes, please.
This one took a little more work. I was looking for cowl in a bubble helmet. Cause you should always control your hair in case of a depressurization. Loose hair goes through hole and now you are A) dead, cause you couldn't seal the leak or B) Stuck to your helmet cause you glued your hair under the patch.
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Raygun and gloves also desirable.
Finally, a bulk request. I love this guys style. He's not very active any more but I struggle to find anything I dislike in most of his work, in terms of costuming. I present Adrian Dadich, if the art looks familiar it because I commissioned AD to do a piece for Kaemgen, which I recently had colored by Eddy Swan.
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The rule of cool always trumps the rule of reality when it comes to superhero (and fantasy) attire. ALWAYS!
Those who don't think so, are totally in the wrong setting. :p
omfg did you just reference legend of the seeker?? One of the best fantasy shows ive ever seen!!>!>! I hate that it got cancelled....
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The books aren't bad, either. A bit voluminous, though.
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Fireheart
Might be something in the back holding them up :p
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[list][*]Sub-dermal rare earth magnets
[*]Magic (well... because Rating T, no blouse down around the waist)
[*]Add a few technological highlights to make the slimmest of believable rockets or anit-grav modules to hold things up
[*]Fully rigid corset with attached pauldrons and associated accoutrements
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I'm sure there are other good examples of the "long braided pony tails" I want in CoT but yeah the Legend of the Seeker ones were easy to find pics for. Besides as I implied the TV show had plenty of other cool costume item ideas that might be adapted for CoT.
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Of course the show had other fun aspects... maybe these will inspire some emote ideas. ;)
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How about the ability to draw emblems? Submission of the emblems, would of course, include being OK'd by the devs, and possibly revoked at a later date if they become offensive and/or found to be copyright infringing.
If the emblem was popular enough, the devs could add it to the in game selection list in the costume creator. Maybe even throw a small in game cash fee that goes to the original designer.
Lifeless object alive.
I call 1st Dibs on the letter "A"; 5-pointed stars; and a large 5-pointed star encircled by 12 smaller 5-pointed stars!
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Hi Duke,
We've talked about this a lot before. Perhaps someone can point you to a related thread. Having custom emblems either needs to be crowd"judged" by committee or be very expensive to make it worth dev time to judge each submission and/or reduce the number of submissions.
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I did see a post stating something to that extent (after I posted). Its unfortunate, but I can see the reasons for not doing it.
How about adding sword canes? And different walking animations when equipped with one.
Lifeless object alive.
Or just on report basis :/
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The books are pretty good and VERY voluminous.
Terry Goodkind isn't afraid to try to shock the audience either. Many times I've been reminded of a line from Buffy the Vampire Slayer:
{Buffy rolls eyes} "Alright! I get it. You're evil."
Sorry for the momentary derail.
I also thought the costumes in the show were pretty good :)
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Just a silly idea, but could it be possible to have a Plasma Globe for a head? You know, these things?
They're fairly simple designs, but with some particle use for the plasma streamers (which should totally be colorable). Because if you're going to be a robot, why not have an awesome head like that? Alternate contents could be a goldfish or a brain. It should be possible to add a hat to it, though. Preferably a top hat.
I SECOND THIS
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I want the mouth cover thingy in my avatar plzzz
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I'd like to request a shifting oily texture that can be applied to various costume pieces. If you can customize that to apply a color and the like to weapons, tools, and costume pieces, you can make your very own lawyer-friendly [url=http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Klyntar]klyntar,[/url] and having access to symbiotes like that sounds like a lot of fun to me. Particularly if you can have the weapons and tools attach themselves to the character's body somehow, such as extending off of the arm.
An infinite number of tries doesn't mean that any one of those tries will succeed. I could flip an infinite number of pennies an infinite number of times and, barring genuine randomness, they will never come up "Waffles".
Cammi from Street Fighter style thong leotard!
Or a way to make the legging for that style match up with the top better than CoH did, which required a belt to hide the fact it didn't connect at all.
Hmmm. The oily texture can work...thats just art. shifting may be asking a lot, that's animation.
[b]Could we get a Dev to address this? its a really interesting idea[/b]
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and while I am at it. a number of requests have centered around medieval shirts, all of which had balloon sleeves.
[b]I would like the balloon sleeve to go with anything.[/b] [u]a separate feature.[/u] balloon sleeves would spice up even spandex.
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MWM has stated they will be taking advantage of UE4 materials. So making costume pieces out of an oily substance should be as simple as selecting 'oily substance' as the material. How they go about making the oily substance, however, would be the difficult part, because I don't think that is a material they can just pick off the shelf.
Other people have created toolsets that can help. For instance, I think the folks at [url=http://polycount.com/discussion/comment/2145719#Comment_2145719]Polycount have created a 'Newton's Rings' shader[/url] that will give you the rings and rainbow effect, and then adding a [url=https://docs.unrealengine.com/latest/INT/Engine/Rendering/Materials/HowTo/Fresnel/]Fresnel effect[/url] will provide the appearance of a filmy surface.
And since we get to pick our colors, you could probably make your oil look like the back of a june-bug, or the sludge from an oil spill.
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Does that mean we won't gain auras with our characters at a certain level ? :(
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If I understand what's been announced before correctly, then If you can't afford to purchase the aura so that it is globally unlocked for your characters, then yes, until a character is a high enough level to complete the mission that earns the aura he can't have it.
This is where it is nice that you can theoretically buy the stars (with which you could purchase that global unlock) from other players with the in game currency or by selling things one of your characters has earned to other players for stars.
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From what I remember there is going to be 3 ways to unlock costume items in-game, mission rewards, achievements, and consumables.
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Given how at least some Devs of CoT have stood against having jiggle physics in this game based ENTIRELY on the grounds that they think it might be offensive to women regardless of the practical/technical challenges of implementing it I wouldn't hold my breath we'll get the parts for thong leotards in CoT any time soon. But on a related note I'll be happy that we're likely no longer going to have costume items that have "hardwired" textures.
Anyone who remembers the "shiny" spandex long sleeve top and full leg bottoms for females in CoH will likely recall that we never got the matching shiny-textured panties part that would have allowed us to make a full shiny leotard costume. We had the two parts to make the non-shiny version - we simply lacked the shiny bottoms. It was mind-numbingly amazing that after 8.5 years of countless people suggesting/begging for it that we never got that part considering it would have likely been extremely trivial for them to have just copied the non-shiny part and added the existing shiny texture to it.
Hopefully CoT has solved that problem for all its costume parts. For what it's worth if we do get thong costume parts (of any type) we'll at least know that some of the costume art Devs of this game are far more liberal than others. *shrugs*
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I remember. I used a belt to fix that problem until I switched to the witch top.
However, I don't see how thong bikini is offensive to women unless the idea is "I wouldn't wear that for whatever reason so it's offensive." If that's the case, can I start being offended by everything now, so they can really start limiting things? CoH had one, it just didn't connect and could have been a bit more thong. It's classic superhero and they said they would have classic superhero.
Yeah using a belt didn't really "fix" the problem - it just sort of covered it up as well as a Band-Aid can cover up a compound fracture. To be vaguely fair the use of certain colors made the mismatch a bit more tolerable but that didn't really excuse the fact that the CoH Devs probably could have made a "shiny panty" costume piece (by simply retexturing the existing non-shiny item) in about 10 minutes and somehow didn't find the time to do it in 8.5 years. I consider it among the most mysterious "Why did it never happen?" costume pieces in all of CoH.
Publicly visible thongs don't offend me either IRL or in computer games. I'm aware CoH had one (I used it for several characters) and I'm aware it did not "connect" to the standard spandex top. Along with the lack of a "shiny panty" item the fact that CoH didn't have a version of a thong that matched up with the spandex top was also rather mysterious/annoying.
As to the question of whether having any kind of thong might be considered offensive in CoT I'll obviously leave that up to the Devs. I'm just refreshing the point that there are CoT Devs who have commented in these forums they are willing to censor particular cosmetic elements related to body models based solely on "feedback from a few women who would be offended by them" regardless of how hard/easy those elements would be to implement. In simple terms if a couple of "specific women who are close to certain Devs" end up declaring something's too offensive for CoT it might not make it in regardless what thousands of potential players might think. Just keep that in mind.
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Oh, I agree, it was needed. I requested a shiney version all the time. It was the one of the things CO did better than CoH.
However, if they're willing to ban simple things because of a few, then they sound like they'd be willing to ban other things for the few.
I'm offended by stupid costume pieces. Can we not have those? I thought me being offended meant, that I just don't use them, but if the devs are already talking about just not having them if someone is offended by it, should we start lists? :p
This is what I'm worried about.
Obviously the Devs of a game like this can't waste the time for detailed scientific surveys to properly assess whether or not every last costume item or cosmetic feature is "acceptable" or "too offensive" so some arbitrary command decisions will have to be made. But it absolutely infuriates me when at least one Dev already stated they have made decisions on things like this based on (and I'm paraphrasing here), "I asked a few women I personally know and since they didn't like something that means NOBODY must want it". Devs simply must not fall into the trap of making gross generalizations based on the input of a very tiny sample of people who are either not even going to play or haven't played yet because the game hasn't entered open beta testing.
If a given feature/item in question gets a bunch of negative feedback during play testing then by all means the Devs should remove it from future software releases. But if the Devs are willing to unilaterally shoot things down based on a few random opinions that are ungrounded in actual gameplay experience then I fear anything could be tossed from consideration no matter how contextually (or even questionably) innocent they may be.
Being "offended" by things like this is (as you imply) purely subjective. This is why the Devs should be very careful not to start censoring things for relatively minor (or in this case unsubstantial) reasons. It's a clear slippery slope towards censoring practically everything for any triviality imaginable.
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Everything I've seen so far, however, seems to make me feel they're the types to easily fall into that though. I'm hoping I'm wrong.
For those that don't know or who have forgotten, Tannim made a response in regards to reasonable vs ridiculous breast physics in which he said his immediate family/friends did not care for breast physics at all. His intention was to argue that for some including any breast physics was ridiculous. Regardless of your agreement on his argument, at no point did Tannim say that his conversations with family and friends were the reason the game wasn't going to include breast physics despite what Lothic wants you to believe. If you want to see for yourself it starts [url=https://cityoftitans.com/comment/123135#comment-123135]HERE[/url] and goes on for several posts.
The devs have stated that the reasons for not including breast physics were time/resource requirements, rating systems (as well as all that entails) and rigging limitations. They have even stated that the framework for breast physics is there and this decision could be revisited later.
We were talking about a thong bottom that attaches to the shirt top for a thong leotard, not about jiggle physics.
Suggestion noted. Moving back to topic.
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As Brand X pointed out the last few posts here was a discussion about whether the Devs would include certain costume items that some players might consider objectionable. But since you decided to directly crosspost this back to another contentious thread having to do with arbitrary decrees made by here-to-for unnamed Devs who have made decisions based on subjectively unquantifiable notions of what they consider "ridiculous" and rely on the random opinions of a few people who will either not be playing this game or who have certainly not even seen this game in action I will expand upon the reasons why I think making decisions like Tannim has is dangerous for this game at large.
To clear the air there were two primary arguments against having body jiggle physics in CoT (at least for the time being). The first was the purely rational one based on objective engineering reasoning that it was simply too hard or time consuming to introduce it into the game any time soon. This "excuse" was at least completely understandable and even expected given the nature of the grassroots development scheme of this game. Frankly had the Devs jumped into that "other" thread with this sensible explanation early on it could have saved dozens of people from writing hundreds of posts that spanned multiple years on the forum. I squarely blame Devs like Tannim for letting that thread continue to this day unlocked.
Sadly the Devs did not leave it at that...
No, unlike the previous explanation that was completely divorced of any angsty emotional vibes or subjective pleas towards undefinable quantities like "ridiculousness" or "offensiveness" Devs like Tannim decided to make an additional case that "several women that he knows IRL" responded in abstract (more than likely prompted by his own negative views) that they didn't like it so that should be taken as some kind of global proof that no future player of this game would like it. I can't imagine a more flimsy, handwaving bunch of BS if I tried.
The worse part of this is that the Devs in question had the unmitigated gall to try to conflate (just as you have done) the "rational" reason for not having body jiggle with the subjective "it would be icky" drivel. The direction this is going is painfully clear: Devs like Tannim are now going to think they no longer have to give rational, unemotional explainations for why they don't want (or can't) implement various features. All we need is for Tannim to get the proverbial bug up his ass that "a couple of women" might find thongs in CoT offensive so let's just not have them despite what thousands of other potential players might think.
This is a classic slippery slope towards cosmetic feature censorship on a massive scale. If we end up with "vaguely questionable" things like thongs in CoT then one can only marvel at the sheer hypocrisy of trying to declare anything "too rediculous" to have in CoT.
P.S. Just as an ironic FYI I'm typing this while waiting at the Tokyo Narita airport on my way home. The fact that some people have made the pathetically narrow-minded case that all body physics in computer games is now and will forever be akin to "anime fan service" seems especially funny to me while I'm sitting here.
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Hypocrisy thy name is Lothic.
Discussing anything with you is a waste of time because you have the proverbial 3 second memory of a goldfish. Now go ahead and get your last word in.
Seriously Lothic - please drop it. Your "passion" for that singular "feature" (that only you seem to [I]need[/I]) is descending into childish foot-stomping. Regardless of the topic I usually enjoy reading your posts and tend to agree with you on most things - and you usually express yourself well - but when you start ranting about this stuff it's just painful to read. The bitterness you exude is not helping you.
In any case - there is an entire thread about that, and as far as everyone else is concerned the issue seems to be settled. Back to our regularly scheduled costume discussion!
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This pic I am posting for two reasons, the claws and the headdress
1) the claws and the gauntlets...an original take on both. I really like how different these look, and they seem to mesh well with the gauntlets.
2) the headdress. elaborate and it fits a number of concepts.
3) the collar is very interesting as it fits on the tunic straps. a nice touch
4) the tunic itself is much more tasteful than some of the art I have posted. It seems to include a skirt but I cannot tell
5) eye makeup. it is great! looks like this are a must for launch.
what do you think of the claws?
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