Your character is very interesting Sol. Like the idea behind her powers.

I'm gonna go with no, as far as the transfer. Thing is there's always a mechanism that puts an effect on someone. Usually if you get rid of that, in real instances like poison you want to clean it out too. The only case which she couldn't get rid of it is if it permanently bonded to the victim afterwards. I don't think either of those ideas are permanent, remove the toxin and the curse goes with, the mana or the energy that the curse might have built up while effecting you and building might remain and then manifest in your mutation somehow as something new, adaptation and all that.

And sorry to push your trains of thought into weird tunnels! LOL I like thinking of this sort of thing! We can concoct one off named villains or whatever to counter eachother and have fun exploring their capacities. I like Whovian logic and explosions of exposition, most of the time lol.

I did think of another way she could get exposed, and it's something Tobias has done, basically using the regeneration effect to heal someone (He did this to Kami when they first met.) It's only an extreme situation, and kinda sucks to experience geting stabbed twice.

Yeah, Ironically enough it's the only effect that would work from his powers, on her XD

As for the other stuff, I think if she transfered the poison to someone else the magical energy... Ohhh man... O.O I just thought of a funny one like that movie Lucy? That's screwed up... Ehem... But they would have to force her to purge first too, wouldn't they? To keep contaminants out of their durgs. This is a weird scenario witht he smuggling.

Magic is funny? I think? Sometimes. Cause there's a lot of ways to do it, all of them usually come down to making, shaping, using magical energy to do something physical, which is always scientifically weird, Mana is one fuel, Ki is arguably usable for Magic, among other words, so one of those energies might be fueling it, and the magic on the poison would need this to work and therefore pull it in. Say the explosive one builds magic for a looong time to create the force from nothing. She could use that and the energy would be variable, or random, unless she learned to control magic.

I dunno, these hypotheticals have gone crazy? Spells use the energy and the spell is on the venom, on molecule of venom can activate the spell on a tonne of magical energy which could result in a large explosion, ha, cross classing.... >.> I'm sorry weird tangents... Mutants, am I right?

In a certain sense it would, and in some ways it's not a far step from poisons to potions, there was a set in CoH called poisons that had a heal in it. So yeah. Magic can be linked to a poison or a chemical that's meant to have an effect like a chemical drug but with magical side effects. I'm not sure how the magical differences between a nightshade potion and straight nightshade is, but it would be an interesting and logical tangent for the character.

Also: Didn't see lucy either, just made the reference cause it's a movie about a girl who gets poisoned with some drug and starts becoming a super psychic because she's unlocking "100% of her brain!" Which is arguable to some degree, but it unlocks all these weird and unexplainable abilities, they could explain them, but I never saw it.

Other Also: Terry is kind of an energy version of her in some ways. Basically he absorbs any energy radiating, unless he's making himself inabsorbant, which he can do with practice. Most prominent energy around is heat, kinetic and radiation, which does a lot of stuff, fission, fusion, etc. He uses that stored energy and shapes it, still learning that too, early in his career. Any energy he's exposed to he can absorb, even if slowly. So his body just keeps storing up a lot of those common ones and some of the uncommon ones until he figures out what to do with them or does a "Purge" which for him is... much... more dangerous... >.< He could nuke the school and he never told anybody? He doesn't know he can do this...

Hmmm on the subject of how powers might work in a lore type of way....Sebastian (A FYI for Sol, Sebastian is my necromancer hero/vigilante whom has a rather....traumatizing background. When suited up Sebastian is known as Gravemire) would be aware of poisons and disease. I would assume that the Barons (being a necromancer cult and all)would have four schools of necromantic magic...Plague, Cold, Undeath, and Blood. The School of Plague would teach about disease manipulation, how to create new devastating diseases with magic, knowledge of venom's and poison's. Plague very much can be both used for bad and good...same thing with blood which would teach the necromancer how to manipulate the blood in a living body (exactly what it sounds like) or outside the body and also give the user's or another living being's bone magical enriched nutrients to create more blood cells that would patch up injuries quickly. Cold can be used for bad for the most part. Undeath can be used for bad and good, most necromancers would bind spirits to the zombies or other undead abominations they created...others could consult with the body's spirit and let them decide whether they would fight for them or not. The latter type of zombies are really dangerous....especially if they are a Lich (undead mage type with sentience) or Ghoul (undead mutant or physical combat inclined) level of zombie.

In regards to Ever I imagine even Sebastian whom has a large knowledge of death dealing poisons and venoms would have a hard time identifying someone's ''aura'' with natural in-built poisons unless he trained himself for it in that field or if your character has some magic mixed with it. I also imagine Sebastian would be one of the few characters who would unaffected by the poisons by getting a brief time to analyze it and create specific cells full of certain enzymes to eliminate it (cells eliminating the poison in the blood stream or the lungs, enzymes to break it down in the stomach)

After all Necromancers are usually presented as dark magical mad scientists...they would have to develop some kind of tactic to survive accidental venom or poison spills. Radioactivity would probably be a problem though.....

Now we are talking about Undead ... Mah ha ha ha. Well to be technical Rotten would be classed somewhere between a Ghoul and a Lich. He prefers hand to hand combat, but can draw on unworldly power from Hel the Norse Goddess of the damned. That why he can create portals and summon hellfire (though he hates using hellfire).

Seems good to me. Half the time I'm not sure real School Administrators know what they are doing anyway.

The only thing that comes to my mind is how she hides the purging of toxins from her Mother.

Oh, I must have missed the part about not hiding her powers from officials. My bad.

Rott, what was your intention for the Super Health class? Gym class, but only for supers? I thought it might be some kind of superhuman physiology course, but it doesn't sound like it. If so, then I will edit my statement in my previous post about Metahuman Health being for anybody.

Non-supers in a super gym class would probably be dangerous.

Yeah I figure Gym class for supers be separate from normal gym. Also given how Metahumans tend to be one of a kind or very rare blend, that first goal of the class is to teach them how to understand their bodies. IS that ache in my side a sore muscle or a burst appendix? Less of using powers and abilities to fight and more learning how to understand what one's body is telling them. That the focus of the HEATH part. The Fitness part would be more Gym like class not about using powers, just normal fitness (where powers might go wrong). As well as letting them use the powers if that's how to keep them healthy. That super strong fellow going to have to lift major weights to work off those cheese burgers.

Now Metahuman Heath you mentioned could be Metahuman Medicine and such. I'm open to ideas thought.

Yeah, I had that hang up too, got other characters wandering around, but Kami's stuck till she can get in the Danger room, atleast for this hour, or some other place for testing.

Yeah, okay. That could work too.

Would make sense that they were near each other.

Suddenly I'm reminded of the ESRB. XD Who lets an 11 year old in a room called danger alone? Just sayin', or would there be ESSI?

Far too young. She'll need to be a rising junior before the school administration will even consider it and that will only be after having received parental/guardian permission.

Okay, thought I should mention how Kami's 'pocket' dimensions work. There are two methods I can imagine with her 'rules of magic'.

The first is based on the concept of scaled spaces, essentially the distance between particles within an atom and molecule are actually quite huge, under this theory she creates her bag spaces, essentially compressing the mass, with a second enchantment to handle the weight, reducing it to the 'subjective' scale of the objects. (For instance, Tobias' bag reduces things to 1/10 size and weight.)

Second is the way in which her bubble works, this works on the premise that there are more than three physical dimensions, theoretically 'space/time' is the fourth dimension within standard model physics. However under this we're going to skip that dimension since it's more of a constant, consider that dimension 1. Dimension 2-4 are the ones that allow movement and physical existence. In this case she's taking the relatively unused fourth and higher dimensions are where her dimensions are, in essence this is like taking the equation for existance T*X*Y*Z and adding one.

What everyone experiences and see's are subject to what's been manifested by the magic that created the space. Doing this spell requires Kami to activate the card, and designate the physical space that's necessary for her and other occupants to be taken there, since she was faced with something that triggered her PTSD (Seeing something that resembles the demons that killed her clan), she miscalculated by a few feet and thus the bubble is in the adjacent rooms. Everything on either side of the bubble still exist in their original three dimensions, the barrier itself is technically two dimension and does no damage to the molecules present on the layers of reality it exists on, since those dimensions are already there and physical matter is unaffected by them. The barrier theoretically is part of her innate magic and unlike a protective barrier, is permeable.

NEAT! I hadn't read that yet, I displaced one dimension, but that's kind of hard to, still kinda makes sense though, doesn't matter which three 'dimensions' you're using, they're all in some respect when viewed alone, a line. She's basically transposing from one three-axis intersection to another.

Maybe I don't understand physics enough, but honestly I feel like Time isn't a proven dimension, most of a phenomenon. We can't deny that causality exists, but the notion that there's some fundamental construct within the fabric of reality for it, just seems silly, at leas to me. To me it simply makes sense that given three dimensions and the particulate nature of how things are made, loose bonds break, and sometimes things get stuck together.

Though time does still make sense, there's nowhere to really observe it, plus it's not a constant, our perception of time warps and stretches even earthbound, never mind the differences being in a vacuum and traveling at speeds approaching light. There's also a number of phenomenon that seem to shoot holes through the theories about space/time being linked, such as the communication of entangled particles across huge distances. I think they were called Philotes and Philotic communication. Not sure the proper term for them.

Then of course there's the electric universe model which I really like.

Well that's one reason it's considered Theory. We don't know everything. Heck those who seem to predict things maybe pick up distortions in space/time. There another Idea out there that Time itself is slowing down. The Universe is constant and not expanding, but because TIME is slowing down and weakening it gives the illusion of expansion.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2160625/Our-time-really-running-Scientists-forward-theory-suggesting-universe-grind-halt.html

Another question about the bubble reality, could Rotten enter via walking into the wall? Got the idea from the dummy thing. Or if not can he cross realities via his portals, that what he does anyway makes a portal to Hel's realm and a joint portal out. The space between them just a small gap maybe a hair thickness wide. So it gives the illusion he making just one portal between two spots. When he really hoping realities.

Walking through the portal would be slowest? Not walking through the barrier?

I think for this I'm going to use Rotten as a Mastermind. Of course Zombies/Dark/Dark. Main reason if he goes in alone he be alone, if someone follows him he wouldn't know their abilities to handle a fighting situation. So he would call on some from Hel's realm to give him backup the knows.

Well Sebastian could assist with that considered he is technically an zombie mastermind himself.....specifically zombie/weather control (ice powers mainly)/poison or pain. I don't remember what story I had behind my necromancer characters back in CoX or my one for my Necromancer like character in CO so I completely reworked my idea into something I found interesting. Sebastian's full name is a reference to my Sylvari Necromancer back in Guild Wars 2 (whom was named Greene)....always found it ironic how the living plants could be dealers of death and decay.

Sorry, busy and long day at work. Looks like I'm not done editing that post yet, been working on it since my break four and a half hours ago, I think...

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Not really that ironic. If anything, it's terrifying. Not only can many plants make poison, but many can also cause illness and disease. More often than not, that's fungi. There's one fungus that causes insects to climb to the highest point they can get to and then jump. There's another two that attacks ants and tarantulas and eats away at everything but the exoskeleton. Then it grows spore bodies out of it to spread the fungus further. The company Naughty Dog made the game Last of Us based around this idea. Very creepy stuff. (I played a Sylvari Necromancer for a time, too. Though I didn't play GW2 for too long.)

Of course how I could I have forgotten? Admittedly the Last of Us came out long after GW2 did but I do definitely remember seeing Sylvari with fungus caps as ''hair''. Sebastian would indeed be aware of funguses all things considered. I also imagine Left 4 Dead infected and Dead Space necromorphs could also be magically produced in this universe with the right tweaking and right powers (the latter would be particularly terrifying if a villain was capable of using that).

Scary stuff, not sure if I would have Sebastian do any of that....maybe on a Blood Moon....

Hmmm....I would't take it that far I think but I would take it pretty close. His PTSD could cause an heavy blizzard in a select area and spread if he hasn't gotten control of it by then...and if he is mad and is focusing his rage on someone (likely to be one of the Barons) he could very easily kill them with a ice shard to the heart or trapping them in an ''icy grip''....a very efficient fast way way of doing that. Blood magic is a trigger for Sebastian as the Barons would force him to use it in gruesome ways. Plague could also be used to kill someone quickly with a ton of pain or to infect an entire population with something devastating so he would't use that either.

I imagine when the Mission Creator comes out for City of Titans I might create an possible ''What if'' scenario where he would have to face an alternate version of himself that instead of trying to be an hero or at the very least a vigilante something caused the alternate to become one of the most gruesome, unsettling villains in that known alternate universe.

Heh, I am particular enjoying writing Sebastian's responses Okshana's character, Cher. So far the relationship between my character and his/hers has been rather interesting......

I'm not really sure? I think Cher hit the alarm, which apparently engaged some kind of shield, which I would assume to be over the door? I could be wrong, Cher and Seb seem to be rather confrontational with one another. Then Seb started bashing the barrier, which Toby just ducked under before it went up.

I don't think the suppression cuff would outright negate someones powers, suppression tends to come in varying degrees, plus some can just bust through if their power is sufficient enough. I imagine suppression cuffs could be as bad as nerfing someone to effective 'level 1' or merely dipping their level down a few points. I dunno though.

I was assuming it would depend on the threat level of the individual. Sebastian's kind of a weird case because the bracelet itself would only supress his powers from the level it would reach when he was relieving some bad memories from a trigger or if he was mad (could even be both from what I read on how PTSD works) and the Baron's used a power suppressor bracelet on him before when they were teaching him how to use ice magic (to avoid him trying to kill or incapacitate them) so he would have figured how to take it off eventually anyway when he escaped. Beyond that? I think it would put some limitations on his abilities so I am thinking he would remove it briefly to just try to break part of the forcefield and slip it back on again after he got inside. I was also assuming that the power suppressor cuffs would be way harder to get off as they sound like they usually would be used on more dangerous individuals that have proven quite capable of killing people with there abilities...so individuals that were placed in custody or prisons.

As for the forcefield I was imagining that he didn't necessarily break it entirely but just pierced an opening just enough for him and Tobias to fit through. I was also assuming that Sebastian never actually saw how Cher activated the forcefield (he's new to school in general after all and he was paying attention to Ron before she did it) nor how strong it was so he tried to use his powers in a bunch of different ways to atleast make an opening. If need be I will change it again as I am used to constantly editing my posts anyway.

And yes Cher and Sebastian so far are definitely confrontational and I imagining part of the reason why he would slice and opening in the barrier would be to show off some of his capabilities to her. We'll see how that goes down as we go a long. Depends on what Oksana wants to do with his/her character in regards to mine.

If I overstepped the rules behind the bracelets or shields I will change it. I went through countless different rough drafts already on how to respond so writing another would't hurt.

Yeah I was thinking of passing it off as a glitch in the system or something like that (Something already went wrong with the system in the first place Kami was testing her powers). I probably still need to review and re-read whats going on though so things don't get so confusing for all of us....

Yeah I hope I didn't screw anything up with that. Trying to remember all the rules and established tidbits is harder then I thought when I am actually playing a part in how the story is going. I also need to add a new note that Cher and Andy noticed about Sebastian

-One of Sebastian's faults is that he can be selfless or good intentioned to the point he can be considered reckless and dangerously detrimental to his own health. I briefly mentioned earlier that part of the reason the Chasers were well....chasing him was because he crashed several of there drug deals....even when he knew that it would cause more trouble for him in the long run he did it to atleast save someone from pretty much ruining there lives by taking that drug. Unless he drains someone else's energy he could exhaust himself very quickly without even realizing it.

I imagine in the future he would make many enemies amongst villains doing this and his superhuman or civy friends wouldn't be too happy for him putting his life on the line so much. Probably would need to figure out a way to do character development in that case....

That works out I think, I imagine having a 23 foot in diameter bubble of somewhere else floating would definitely disrupt some pathways. Probably why Tobias managed to get in before the barrier went up, lagging from having to redirect to secondary systems, or some Applied phlebotinum.

Some more information about her pocket dimension:

There are two areas, the Oni Swamp and the Willow on the other side of it. Behind the willow is the zone wall, from this side it's impermiable. The feeling of being stretched or compressed may be common for those magically aware, because essentially you're in a space that doesn't usually have space, expanded to fit even MORE space. That said because theoretically you're very small, time will be a little wonky in there but not much. The bubble could become permiable if Kami runs low enough on energy, as mentioned by the spots in the sky where you can see through and view huge florescent lights. This is a dangerous way to get out, the other way out is to get rid of the other 'player' in this case the constructs created by ESSI and buffed by multiple failures on Kami's part.

Every 'turn' after five 'turns' 2d6 Oni whelps will spawn. They're easily dealt with, rikti monkey's or something like that are about their capacity, they're mostly annoying. Feel free to just gank however many you feel is relevent, and even make more on your post if you want to chop up more. There's no gaurentee they'll spawn near us, so that's okay, plus they could just spawn two, or something.

Ummmmm Lots of handwavium going on in her little pocket world. Swamps suck, lots of nasties hiding in it but generally it's flat, marshy with few clumps of trees.

I did kinda think of that, but also thought it was likely that ESSI's mainframe can't reach the danger room to activate the shut off command since all of the room she was in is encompassed by it and the barrier effectively stops any connections to the material stuff on the other side of the bubble. So essentially the projections and projectors within the space are still functional.

Also don't think it would be very fun if we could just catch every possible dangerous situation with "Shut it down ESSI." It would seriously deter a lot of RP.

Though I don't have issue with the rest of your points, though in Tobias and Kami's case, there's no parental figure to object or file suit.

Umm, dude, the post above was the first time I'd posted publicly an unasked-for opinion on how schools are run. Also only the second time I'd ever mentioned lawsuit, and it's because schools are run under an extremely strict set of laws, considering parents are literally trusting school personnel with their childrens' lives. If you're talking about the pm I sent you, you asked for advice in here on how school administration works. I've done a lot of research into that, and so I was trying to give you some tips so that you could continue/improve upon the standard of realism you established earlier in the thread and seemed to be interested in expanding upon for the stability of your setting. And, yes, I am a little offended, considering when I came into the thread the first thing you did was jump on me for breaking lore and another player for referring to the school inaccurately, but when other players do things that really just don't make sense within the bounds of a high school, or even within the rules/resources of the setting you wrote out not a page ago, everyone literally handwaves it off with 'comic BS'?

Look, either come up with a setting that works by a certain set of rules and have everyone stick with it and come up with plots that work within the rules of that setting, or don't bother fleshing out the setting at all and let what goes go. But it feels a lot right now that I and a couple others are being left out in the cold while trying to rp in a modern-comic-style while the plot takes a left-hand turn to go pick up an island full of kryptonite.

Given I've been in other OOC arguments before, I can see the sparks of one there.

Please remember to keep this civil, guys. Saying you want a different tone for your RP is perfectly fine, but please avoid casting insults at each other or each other's preferences. If you must, I think most folks would be more comfortable if it was taken to PMs.

I'm not taking a side here, as this could apply to all parties. I just want to head off any of the unpleasantness I've seen too many times. :/

EDIT: Dammit.

It's a world of superheroes. Everything is real and allowed. Edits will not be necessary. The teachers and students will take care of this situation, then things will go back to normal, okay?

As normal as things can get at a high school built for metahumans, that is.

Oh yeah, the 'mission door' is public, anybody can flood in if they wanted.

Eh, not really. This is meant to be an easy 'mission' so to speak, the biggest baddy in the pocket dimension is the two headed lizard hologram that's run past it's program parameters. The Whelps are a constant thing, just something really annoying that can build up to something very very bad if you decide to ignore them. You'll get over run by them, but they're also not a mission goal, just an add that's there to distract.

I'd say the two-headed lizard is on par with an Elite Boss or lowby super villain, while the four lizards around him are simple minions. Kami's fortress has a few traps active. There's one instance of the 'split' trap, which basically just reduces your powers and creates a carbon copy of you, two bodies one mind, this would be bad if Toby had it happen since he has two other personalities vying for control. Kami's monsters aren't likely to attack anyone on her side, Bucky and Tobias being on the two times sort of ensures this, but she doesn't have any 'in play' at the moment.

I actually have been basically playing Kami's character off of a hero lab Mutants and Masterminds sheet, to balance it a bit.

Edit: Forgot to mention, her elven fortress is basically just designed to provide passive buffs to elves and those who are official allies to elves. So technically Foradain's team should be buffed, though sadly Misty, Toby, Seb and Ron get left out of this.