Alucard wrote:

A few power sets I would like to see:
1: Whip or chain power set: Allow for customizing beyond just standard whip.
2: Metal Tank Power set: Instead of default covered in fire or earth, allowed tank to be covered in metal
3: Wind Power set: Not a screaming one, one in which you commands the 4 corners of wind.
4: Magic Power set: Instead of just blasts of magic, the character takes out a spell book, creates runes in the air or uses their staff to unleash powerful spells.
5: Time manipulation: Something that affects the speed of your or foe attacks, maybe backs up you or the foe as if rewinding time and so forth.
6: Arachnos Widow like power set: Mental/stabby ninja with poison
7: Bane/Crab spider: allow so you can modify the look of the arms and beyond just normal gun or lasers behavior, perhaps swords or axes.
8: Ninja Power set: Throw stars, use nunchaku and stealth.
All New Power set Idea:
A power idea that I've had in my head for awhile you could call possession where your body channels some dark power it covers your arm in darkness then as you level, it begins to cover your entire body. it starts out as hand to hand combat but as you level you gain ability to do range, heals, and controls.
Possibly a power set of the opposite color, being it's polar opposite carrying a lore/story like the Kheldians aka the Peacebringer and Warshade.

I agree with almost everything you've said.

1) Oh dear lord, yes. Whips/chains. I know that sounds sadistic, and to me it seems like it would be a bit finnicky to program something like this visually and physically, but it was the one thing I really found myself missing. So... As for animation, I'd like to see it actually grab and pull someone (as another poster commented), aside from the basic whipping action for damage... I've also ached to see if this would work in the expanded capacity as a travel power, hooking onto things and swinging from them.

2) Love the idea of metal as a "tank" type, defensive thing-- as a visual, animated concept. I second this.

3) I like this idea, but struggle with its animations. What would it look like? Would we end up with a replica of air bending in the visual sense? I do like the idea of it being a very nice control/defense type setup. Projectile reflection, physical speed increase, summoning a "hot" or "cold" wind to physically cause damage to something...

4) Elemental Magic is a MUST in my head. Most of my characters were wielders of it in some sense or another. I like the animation idea of using a spellbook or staff (as two seperate ways to animate the same idea) because that may open the door then to customization of weapon-- put your own runes on the cover, carve them in your staff, etc.

5) I liked the idea of time manipulation in how CoH was attempting to approach it, though I felt it brushed hips with Kinetics in a lot of ways. Make enemies slower in skill charge and in physical speed, make allies faster in skill charge and physical speed... The difference was if one required an enemy or not to perform the action.

Loving the things I'm seeing on this thread!

Celestial wrote:

Cherry wrote:
Trick Yo Yo. And as you can see from my avatar picture, Ive wanted it for a while! PLease!

I second the trick yo-yo powerset.

Thirded. Sukeban Deka, here I come.

Shadow Elusive wrote:

snate56 wrote:
I'd be happy if I could get on top of a truck that happened to be going my way!
Steve

You tried that too huh? I was pretty disappointed to realize it was impossible. Imagine if a substitute for a travel power could be illegal hitch hiking on vehicle roofs. If you switched right and they crossed zones...built in game lol.
Or you could just park your man on there for fun while you go afk.

I WAAAAANNNTSS!!!!

For 6 years on countless alts I attempted to leap on pretty much every truck I saw in CoX, working on the If I want it bad enough the universe will accommodate theory!!

this would be the most awesome travel power ever!

Definitely need trick Yo Yo powerset..

TheMadGent wrote:

GFN, it's currently planned to have 3 ATs per primary, each with their own secondary. One of the MMs will have /assault according to the current model.

Could you go into a bit more detail or link where there is some so i don't confuse myself?

Mendicant wrote:

Celestial wrote:
Cherry wrote:
Trick Yo Yo. And as you can see from my avatar picture, Ive wanted it for a while! PLease!

I second the trick yo-yo powerset.

Thirded. Sukeban Deka, here I come.

Edit: Errr, Fifthed!

As for what I would like to personally see... some sort of Electromagnetic manipulation / EM energy blast. Would probably be horribly over-powered, horribly weak, or horribly implemented. So Lightning Blast / Electric Manipulation, but not as gutted as it was in CoH. I mean, seriously. A bolt of lightning is five times hotter than the surface of the Sun. And it can send a DeLorean back in time. Do it some justice.

If I can't have that, then BIG weapons. And not just the miniscule options we had for TW.

Womb Physics

Obviously a concept unique to perhaps very few heroes, I previously simulated this with Force Field and Mind Control AoE animations. The AoE animations could support other "physics alteration" themes like Freezing, Disintegrating/disruption, Silence/Power Nullifying, Time Manipulation.

Base: Point Blank (melee?) AoE
Superelasticity Theme: AoE kinetic resistance buff
Naivete Theme: AoE confuse (like CoH World of Confusion)
Comfort Theme: AoE sleep
Animations:
1) Some sort of casting animation;
2a) effect is either AoE-sized bubble (like CoH forcefield); or
2b) unusual AoE-sized surface texture to indicate non-normal physics applied to solids (like icy floor or, the quake travel animation in CoH that had the appearance of cracks). Surfaces could have a more cloth-like texture, be more shiny, be tinted or coated in something, be blurred, be hyper-saturated or grey-scale, twinkles (uh), depending on what can be programmed.

I myself would love some sort of Off/Def set of "Floating Swords"

And something of a "Gunslinger/Blademaster" set so we can get sort of a Dante vibe goin.

A chain powerset. (Could be based on the whip set).
A chain with a weight on the end of it for ranged attacks, an immobilize that is wrapping a chain around the opponent's feet, etc.

A craftable minion of some sort would be really nice. A one time use robot or maybe a summoned minion something like that.

everything we had in COH plus whips, radiation melee/armour and metal control

Fatcat wrote:

Shadow Elusive,
I read most of these threads, the problem with getting my head around what you asked for multiple times on describing what you want in power suggestions is without really seeing it in action, we can't be sure exactly what you want. You asked for power suggestions, then got impatient when we weren't expressing the ideas the way you wanted. How about a list of all the bases, themes, etc you have. I'm not trying to be impertinent here - not looking to get banned lol - you asked us for powers, we dont know how you're going to impliment them, you guys are the devs, making the powers workable in the game is why you get the big bucks.

Just so you know, Shadow Elusive is not a Developer, and any comment he makes is not in any way an official declaration. His statements are just that, his, although it is usually based off of information gleaned from talking with the Dev's.

I hope this helps clarify the situation

(Please note: I am not a Developer either) ;)

Would love to see the power armor set from CO with the ability to fire multiple powers simultaneously. Also ability to grow large az part of combat. Would really like freeform option as well (u pick ur own powers vs. Use of an AT

@Fatcat

From what I can see, with the Base, Theme, Animation (provided that there are adjustments to damage/recharge time based on animation, more on this in another post) they are trying to give more options, not less.

Imagine if you could take the sweeping attacks from any of the hammer sets or abilities that there were in CoH and pair them with the illusion damage effect from Illusion Control(high initial damage that later partially heals) and pair them all up with martial arts sweeping arm movements.

I think this is mostly what they are referencing here and not the DCUO system of making you have lots of powers you will never want to use.

From what I can tell CoT is all about choice, and making those choices as player driven as possible.

And by the way, now that I've thought about it, I'd call this guy the Tai Chi Master...

Base: Sweep - Melee Cone attacks, Close Range Targeted AoE.

Theme: Non-Lethal - Attacks seem more damaging than they are initially. Higher damage is done with the initial strike, but after a few seconds some of the damage bleeds away in effect 'healing' some of the damage done.

Animation: Smooth Martial Arts - The martial arts moves are slow and deliberate but in no way lose their impact.

A stealthy playstyle that specializes in the throwing of knives and setting of traps would be amazing. Spend like 15 minutes just setting up 12 different traps on one guy and then throw something at him to toss him onto them.

Let's see...Power Set wish list, eh?

First, keeping in mind the power creation tools (3 elements: base, theme, and animation), this eliminates specialized power sets, as they will be absolutely doable via this system. Therefore, things like Fiery Ax, Energy Pistol, and the like are too specific and unnecessary (we'll be able to do these with a base of ranged, theme of energy, and an animation of pistol, for example).

Therefore, I will provide broader strokes, as best I can with what limited knowledge I have...

Base: No sense trying to add to this one, since I have no idea what's "official". Chances are, they've got it.

Theme: Again, without knowing what's official, this is hard, but not quite as pointless as Base. So here's a list (and they are in the list order of my preference):
1) Elemental mixing (being able to have multiple themes in one "power set" to launch fire blasts and lightning strokes and wind blasts, etc.)
2) Shielding (both self and being able to interpose for another player or NPC)
3) Size-changing (growth and/or shrinking)
4) Swarm-spewing (being able to excrete/project swarms of smaller things...bees, mini-robots, packs of rabid rabbits, etc)
5) Shape-changing (different animals, different objects, different people, or even a combination of two or three)
6) Light-based powers (not so much Green Lantern as Dagger, Dazzler, or Doctor Light)
7) Object creation (this is more like Green Lantern...think of it as a stationary mastermind...summoning useful objects like a wall, smacking baseball bat, turret, bomb, etc.)

Animations: Like Themes (above) this is tough without knowing the devs list so far, but here goes...
1) Multi-armed (Doc Ock, Spidey during Civil War, Grond, and Crab Spiders are all great examples)
2) Shield (block, bash, and throw)
3) Pistols (single and dual, automatic and revolver, light and heavy)
4) Missile weapons (and a variety here, not just bows, but crossbows, wristbows, etc. Maybe even slings and cesti)
5) One-handed weapons (chopping, crushing, thrusting)
6) Two-handed weapons (chopping, crushing, thrusting)

Then some specifics that would probably fit in one of the above categories, but I am not entirely sure where:

1) Teleport Area Effect attack (porting to multiple foes in a small area and punch/kicking each in turn)
2) Teleport lunge attack
3) Teleport foe attack that misplaces and stuns them (maybe drops them, maybe places them for an AoE, or some other player-friendly strategy tool)
4) Speed-based 1000-Fists of Furious Doom (rapid, machinegun like punches)
5) Grabbing and throwing NPCs!
6) Interactive objects that I can heft, swing, and toss around

That gives a nice starting list for -my- wishes.

I'd like to see a few sword sets, similar to how we had martial arts and street justice / broadsword and katana, so that you pick your weapon as a prop and then the fighting style you wish to use. Personally a nice fast sword set for me (think Adam from RWBY) with super reflexes style secondary would be perfect for me!

Another way we could do themes is for each power we can choose a damage type and a side effect, Such as a damage debuff or DoT damage. Then if we have the enhancement system from the old game or something like it we could probably have an enhancement type that doesn't increase anything in terms of game stats but would add another side effect.

A shapeshifting power set. Somewhere between a diablo 2 druid and beast boy from teen titans.
Travel power decides your travel avatar (cheetah for speed, eagle for flight, kangaroo for jumping)
Primary power set decides your animal shift choices:
Tanker: rhino, bear, gorilla
Melee DPS: scorpion, panther, wolf

Each of the shift choices gets a set of attacks.
Tanks all come with a taunt + charge. rhino gets a bleed effect DoT (impale), bear gets a vampiric lifetap (devour), Gorilla gets defensive shouts (Team buffs)
Melee DPS all comes with a basic set of attacks. Scorpion adds a poison DoT, panther gets a bonus stealth strike / crit chance, wolf has snares.

Ellysyn wrote:

One thing I hope though with all these powers is that in the end you aren't just mashing one attack. In CO I literally only use one attack. Maybe two depending if i'm horribly surrounded. Other then that I actually only use one attack in every battle. In WoW my Death Knight goes through a chain. 2 attacks that each cast a disease. Followed by an attacked doing more damage based on the number of disease. then one final smash to hit hard and give me some HP. In SWTOR my juggernaut does a bit of the same. 2 attacks to fill up the rage meter. and then 2 attacks afterwards to eat up that rage. I remember my Dark Brute would use all of her powers.

Agreed! CO is almost always 'mash same button until out of energy, wait for energy builder attack to restore energy, repeat' with the occasional use of a secondary attack. I miss cycling through numerous attacks (and therefore animations).

Flow- wrote:

"Void"
As in, black hole, as in, absorbing matter, as in, instead of casting a black/goldish-white beam from your hands to the enemy, the beam comes from the enemy into your hands. Casting area holds or crushing people with exploding singularities. Conjuring a ball of purple void that when released collapses and knocks or sucks everything around it. Stomping your foot and having a rift open above your foe's heads throwing them upwards. Being a stalker and placing a black hole inside some poor unsuspecting foe's heart. The ability to take away what you want from the universe. Not channeling dark energy like from dark melee in CoH, nor manipulating gravity, but actually being the spawn of non-existance.
A.k.a the coolest stalker ever!

This would actually be a pretty cool theme idea for a lot of powers:
Theme: Void - requires energy type animation (fire, dark, ice, so on). Attacks originate at the target and flow toward the Hero/Villain. Could be paired with a more normal secondary set showing an ebb and flow of energy back and forth (pull fire from the enemy then launch fire back at them.)

Where possible, this generates the opposite typed damage (Ice pulled caused Fire damage. Light pulled caused Dark damage.)

Per Ignim wrote:

Flow- wrote:
"Void"
As in, black hole, as in, absorbing matter, as in, instead of casting a black/goldish-white beam from your hands to the enemy, the beam comes from the enemy into your hands. Casting area holds or crushing people with exploding singularities. Conjuring a ball of purple void that when released collapses and knocks or sucks everything around it. Stomping your foot and having a rift open above your foe's heads throwing them upwards. Being a stalker and placing a black hole inside some poor unsuspecting foe's heart. The ability to take away what you want from the universe. Not channeling dark energy like from dark melee in CoH, nor manipulating gravity, but actually being the spawn of non-existance.
A.k.a the coolest stalker ever!

This would actually be a pretty cool theme idea for a lot of powers:
Theme: Void - requires energy type animation (fire, dark, ice, so on). Attacks originate at the target and flow toward the Hero/Villain. Could be paired with a more normal secondary set showing an ebb and flow of energy back and forth (pull fire from the enemy then launch fire back at them.)
Where possible, this generates the opposite typed damage (Ice pulled caused Fire damage. Light pulled caused Dark damage.)

I don't think theme's should restrict how the powers look by having requirements like this, it would restrict creativity too much.

notears wrote:

I don't think theme's should restrict how the powers look by having requirements like this, it would restrict creativity too much.

And forcing powers to shoot from you to another player is adding to creativity? Sorry, yes, that was snarky, but I'm in no way suggesting that every power set should be this way. I am simply suggesting a theme. I personally like the idea, which is why I posted it. Like a ton of things in CoX and hopefully in CoT it will be something you take if you want to. Nowhere do they force you to take any specific power set.

Cutting out off the wall ideas just cause you wouldn't take them personally is about the only thing that truly stifles creativity.

Bases: Guerilla fighters (melee and AoE focused pets)
Assassins (melee and single target focused pets)
Warcasters (Ranged and AoE focused pets)
Snipers (ranged and single target focused pets)
Medic team (Heal focused pets
Scouts (Accuracy buff focused pets)
Binders (control focused pets)

Themes: Necromancy ( pets only, all pets deal negative energy damage, all attacks create an accuracy debuff., all pet buffs have a chance of accuracy buff)
Hired help ( pets only, all pets deal smashing damage with melee attacks and lethal damage with ranged attacks, all attacks create a defense buff, all pets buffs have a chance for a dense buff)
Martial (assault only, melee attacks deal smashing damage and all ranged attacks deal lethal damage, all attacks create a defense bonus)
Igniter ((assault only, melee attacks deal smashing or lethal damage (player's choice) damage and create a resistance debuff, all ranged damage attacks deal fire damage and fire DoT)

Animations: Mobsters(pets only), thugs(pets only), robots(pets only), ninjas(pets only), pirates(pets only), soldiers (pets only), steampunk robots(pets only), dieselpunk robots(pets only), cyborg soldiers(pets only, cyborg ninjas(pets only), cyborg thugs(pets only), Cyborg pirates(pets only), cyborg mobsters, Undead soldiers(pets only), undead ninjas(pets only), undead thugs, undead pirates, undead mobsters, police(pets only), cyborg police(pets only), undead police (pets only)

Someone might have already suggested this one, but make a stalker like power set, but where you can imitate an enemy like the spy from TF2 or "The Thing" from the 1982 film.

Along with a Spy power set or something exactly like "The Thing" maybe call it the "Creeper" class?
Good single target dmg or AoE debuffs with some ranged attacks to slow down a single target to keep them from running away like an immobilizer to a full body hold, with a health siphon added to it. . .

Something VERY knockback oriented, like force fields. The idea is every attack knocks them around, different stances allow for knock up, back or down. When teaming the knock back option is restricted unless approved by the team leader (to prevent greifing). Water for this may work as well

Always thought of Peacebringers as the "Light" powerset but it would be cool to have a dedicated opposite to all the Darkness sets available to different builds.

As for what powerset/build I would choose if I could import directly from CoH I'd have to go with Dark/Fire Scrapper(Enforcer?). Not sure how this would work with bases/themes/animations quite yet but that blend is what I found the most fun with.

shyguy92 wrote:

Oh, how about some thing like a Corrupter AT, where not only can you deal damage but you can heal or buff/defuff. I could never get into playing Defenders till late in CoH for the endurance discount that happend every time you're team mates lost HP. But Corrs had an array of devastating ranged attacks and the secondary option of the poison power set that not only just debuffs, but can buff, heal, and rez team mates which was really cool. Mainly though if not the Corr AT comes back could at least the poison power set make a come back. . .Oh and Super Strength with that Rage button. That rage was monstrous to use with the brute AT. When in doubt rage it out with you're tank to try and thin the masses you aggro and hold. Or some kind of melee power set with a rage like button power thingy.

Well, what you're looking for is called a Partisan, and at present is being offered as part of the 'At Launch' sets.

Thermal transport. The ability to suck all of he heat out of one area and move it to another. Imagine a Chillblain PBAoE, generated while throwing a fireball.

Cutter wrote:

Ellysyn wrote:
I got one. So long story short. I wrote a story about a group of people that used Music as a weapon. Literally. I would like to see a Music Power set. I'm not sure how it would work in a melee set. But as a ranged set I can see it. It's roughly a Bard but with more happening. All the moves would be the toon playing a riff or chord or something musical. And you'd see notes move around. You'd have the softer elegant musical notes do stuff like healing and buffing. Then say the more somber and dramatic does the crowd controlling and debuffing. Rapid fast paced music doing the ranged damage. And the loud explosive music causing AoEs and and such. And the toon would actually be using an instrument. It's great we can put an electric guitar on our toon in the create a toon. But now we could actually use that guitar and blow up some mobs with it.

Why stop at guitar? Bagpipes! Trombone! Key-tar! Conductor's baton! Kazoo?
Base: AoE Buff/Debuff
Theme: Music
Animations: As Ellysyn so ellyquently (yes I know) described.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDlif8Km4S4

Was hoping to add this prior to the subject turning silly, but was having login problems.

I had suggested several times on the CoX forums a new MM powerset called Clones
You would get 3 funhouse mirror versions of your character as Minion level; one too tall one too short one same size but wrong colors.
Then 2 Lt's One totally Fat and one built on the Huge setting.
And finally you boss Clone is a close copy with all the blast powers from the primary set.

Could also be Light Clones, like Illusions so the blasts would be "Lasers".

Lord Nightmare wrote:

notears wrote:
Cutter wrote:
Ellysyn wrote:
I got one. So long story short. I wrote a story about a group of people that used Music as a weapon. Literally. I would like to see a Music Power set. I'm not sure how it would work in a melee set. But as a ranged set I can see it. It's roughly a Bard but with more happening. All the moves would be the toon playing a riff or chord or something musical. And you'd see notes move around. You'd have the softer elegant musical notes do stuff like healing and buffing. Then say the more somber and dramatic does the crowd controlling and debuffing. Rapid fast paced music doing the ranged damage. And the loud explosive music causing AoEs and and such. And the toon would actually be using an instrument. It's great we can put an electric guitar on our toon in the create a toon. But now we could actually use that guitar and blow up some mobs with it.

Why stop at guitar? Bagpipes! Trombone! Key-tar! Conductor's baton! Kazoo?
Base: AoE Buff/Debuff
Theme: Music
Animations: As Ellysyn so ellyquently (yes I know) described.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDlif8Km4S4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qo0Xju9O4c

and now I want to see the dubstep gun guys fight doom guy with a rick roll gun..... why must you torment me so....

How about a Ranged Tanking set focused on Insane Troll Logic and Luck, Taunts are essentially saying someone Sucks or Couldn't hit the broadside of a barn, Low teir stuff provides minor Debuffs against enemies Accuracy, Mid Reduces Damage and Accuracy, Higher Teir causes Bad luck and Fumbles essentially Knocking down and locking out enemies from combat.

Then again.. this could also work as a "Controller" set.

Either way would be fun...

I'd like the ability to not have auras on my self mitigation powers and buff/debuff powers as well as various animations for buffs/debuffs that look like I'm insulting my target or inspiring my ally, so that I can either make an inspiring commander or a Hannibal Lector style villain. Maybe different kinds of different animations for this like a roar for a savage type of character or a glare for a more intimidating kind of character. Also when you get around to making bases for pets I'd also like to see not only different specialties for pets like one for damage focused pets or one for control focused pets, I'd also like to see bases that shake up their structure, like one where instead of the usual 3 minion/2 lieutenant/ 1 boss set up we get 9 underlings/5 minions/ 3 lieutenants or one creature that starts off as a lieutenant but over time grows into being a boss and then eventually an elite boss at 30th level, the creature in question having more abilities than a typical master pet to balance things out. The pet base ideas aren't mine by the way, someone else suggested them in the operator thread that I felt should be moved to either here or the suggestions forums.