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It looks like we can give everyone a list of minimum specs for running City of Titans. Please keep in mind that this is 'for now' until we are able to add more graphics and other system refinements. Currently you will need :
Windows 10 or later required; no Intel integrated graphics like UHD, must have AMD or NVIDIA card or discrete chipset with 4Gb or more of VRAM
At least 16GB of main DRAM.
These stats may change as we continue to test.
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With reference to the OP and thread subject, I'd be willing to bet 90% of the people that say CoT is 'vaporware' will end up playing once the game releases and they see the Youtube videos of gameplay. No matter how long until release.
There is definitely a difference between criticizing out of the desire to see the game succeed and criticizing from the belief that the game will never finish and launch. My criticisms, however heated or emotional, have always been out of a desire to see the game succeed. Being a natural man I think certain things should be done differently and I voice those opinions, however unwarranted or uncalled for. But ultimately they are just one man's opinions that no one needs to listen to. But, in my poor defense, I still plan to donate as much as I can once I see gameplay footage. And since the plan is to keep the 2nd Chance open until (I imagine) just before Issue #1 launch I'll be able to do that if that's not part of the proof of concept released with Issue #0. So, I'd even be willing to bet that some, if not a lot, of the people that say they won't donate, or donate again, actually will once they see the convincing videos of gameplay footage, whenever those drop.
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Nothing pisses me off more than people putting laws on the books to stop private business owners from deciding what can and can not be done in their place a business.
If they want to allow smoking in their bar, then you have the right to not visit the bar or to work in the bar.
I also have to ask, when you see someone smoking and you have your child with you, why can't you get out of the way? You obviously see them standing there smoking outside in the great wide open. Though, I'm sure, walking by the car with it's exhaust going on gets you worried about your child.
Just seems so lazy and hypocritical on the part of people. "I'm to stupid to go to a different bar or work at a different place of business, so I have to make it so smoking doesn't happen at the place that always allowed it when I started going there."
I hate drunk drivers. Can we outlaw drinking? People who get drunk are terrible. Can we stop people from drinking alcohol in bars? Make it so only non alchoholic beverages can be served in bars, so I'm not annoyed by an alcoholic's bad habit.
Sorry, I assumed common sense would have made it obvious that places where smoking is permitted and, really, expected, like bars would obviously be an exception to the rule.
And you can't always get away from smokers. Why should I have to veer off of the small sidewalk because some inconsiderate prick decided to smoke and make everyone who walks by breath in his cancer smoke? And yes, I don't walk my child by exhaust either.
You're an idiot.
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Second-hand smoke is an environmental hazard/public health thing though. Kind of like asbestos, and drunk driving. It's not just what the individual does to themselves, it's that what they are doing could have negative consequences for those around them, and such things should be controlled.
As someone who worked in a bar and has frequented many over the years, I was very VERY happy when smoking was banned in bars. I still remember the gloom and doom naysayers predicting the mass closure of local pubs. Never happened.
Any thoughts of Patreon? A regular platform for support until the game launches? I don't know anything about how Patreon works, so if this is a silly question, sorry. Just an idea.
'If at first I don't succeed... wait? What? If what? No. I'm succeeding, just get out of my way.'
They [I]do[/I] have a Patreon account. The Hijinx webcomic.
https://www.patreon.com/HiJinx/overview
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Why shouldn't you, cross the street. Step aside. That just seems like an idiot to me saying, "I can't do such simple things on my own."
I could do it with my child, why couldn't you do it with yours?
That's why you should look in the mirror when you call someone an idiot. Sounds like you couldn't. It can be hard, I guess, to walk a few extra steps. To much effort for some I guess.
I never saw it close a bar, but on that I never thought it would happen, because people like to get wasted. :p I did see it close down quite a few local restaurants though.
Yea, you're right. Especially in cities like New York where you can't go around smokers, we should make everyone else suffer through their cancer smoke instead of inconveniencing the smokers. It's not like it's a public health risk. Let smokers smoke wherever they want, non-smokers health be damned!
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I should be able to play my music so loud that it rattles the teeth of the patrons of the next door restaurant. too bad that you have to close because you have no more customers, they shouldnt tell me what I can do on my own property. When they stopped smoking in restaurants locally we actually had more establishments open. we didnt have any of the bad effect some people predicted.
Price of freedom. I know. Freedom. It sucks doesn't it? Just easier to take it away from others than walk around.
As for public health risk. So is drunk driving. Let's stop people from drinking. Driving can be dangerous too. Exhaust fumes AND just people running into people.
Damn that freedom. Just easier to take away from people.
Drunk driving is illegal... There are lots of 'freedoms' that we surrender to live in this country. It's illegal to be too drunk in public. It's illegal to speed; damn those laws keeping us safe. I love that you are defending people that can cause harm, even cancer, to innocent people. Just goes to show what kind of person you are.
By making it illegal to smoke in crowded, public areas it's not stripping them of their freedom. Like you said, they can go somewhere else to smoke, somewhere where they can't harm innocent people. "Why shouldn't you, cross the street. Step aside. That just seems like an idiot to me saying, "I can't do such simple things on my own."".
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Depends on who's and what kind of freedom you are talking about, almost always one persons freedom encroaches on another persons. While a non-smoker can "easily" cross the street or take an alternative route it is not always that simple why should they have that responsibility, especially when that can add significant time to whatever they are doing that can't really be planned for. Also you are not always in the situation where you are walking past but sometimes you have to stand "too close" to them for a significant time, like public transportation. Should the non-smoker just take "responsibility" and move away, potentially having to take the next one?
So... why should a smokers freedom to smoke in public be more important than a non-smokers to be free from it? Consider that smokers are the minority here and that it contributes too much to health issues, both public and personal.
This is 2018 and America. I thought we sided with the minority side on everything?
Also, I love how it comes to smoking in the great wide open of the outdoors as the bad thing. As someone who actually goes out and walks, this little "Oh no. I passed by a smoker, I'm so in trouble in life!" is BS. You're walking right past them and like stated, smokers make up a minority of the population, so you're not going to be surrounded by them when outside unless you want to be.
Forgoing you still took away the freedom of any business to say "We allow it. Don't like it, don't work here or do business here."
No, only the protected minorities.
I wouldn't say a cramped street is the "great wide open of the outdoors". It is also not a case where every smoker is standing still, they could be walking at the same pace as you and thus you become exposed to their second hand smoke for the effectively the entire time they smoke.
The way you formulate your arguments makes it look like we should only look at the situations where it's the easiest for non-smokers to avoid smokers rather than the most common situations where they "intersect". There will always be exceptions to anything, but formulating the standard policies according to those exceptions is never a good thing.
As long as they properly inform any employee and potential customer I would have no problem with it. It's outside in public spaces where you may not have an easy option to avoid it that I have a problem with. Forcing business is, to me, a completely separate issue from open public spaces.
EDIT: added specifier in last sentence.
Man, you guys don't want to come to Canada (well maybe Dark Cleric does). At least in Ontario, there is 0 smoking allowed in any building that's not a private residence (meaning no apartments or condos). No businesses, public or otherwise, not even in bus shelters. Hotels can deem 'smoking rooms', but I honestly have not heard of any for years. Same laws apply to vaping and now marijuana.
*quick edit, for apartments and condos you're allowed on the balcony, but not inside.
Can you guys take your off-topic bullshit to PMs?
Can we get some moderation in this thread? Some of this off-topic stuff should be ban-worthy.
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I do subscribe what I can to their Patreon. I'm glad that I have a way that I can contribute to the effort before the second chance Kickstarter.
Yes, please.
"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings: Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Eh, I'd rather a thread like this run off into the proverbial weeds (no pun intended). The whole original topic of "The Public Skepticism of City of Titans' Release" was sort of a "Debbie Downer" to begin with. *shrugs*
CoH player from April 25, 2004 to November 30, 2012
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Most threads around here quickly go off the rails or circle the drain, especially when certain personalities clash.
There just isn't that much to talk about that is actually relevant to a game that doesn't exist, especially when people have had upwards of half a decade to talk about it.
Okay sure.
What public skepticism? I'd say the majority of the public hasn't heard of CoT. For those who have, I'd say there's more believing it will come out but it's taking to long, than those who believe it won't come out.
Hopefully the update they said we're getting today is nice and informative and convincing*.
*I used this word because, I suppose, it's in line with the skepticism of this thread.
+1
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I second this notion. I’m feeling really antsy, especially in light of their update a month ago. Generally I’ve stayed patient, but I’m eager for at least something.
Name: Safehouse
Ranger: Gunner
Primary: Force Blast
Secondary: Atrophic Aura
Tertiary: Kinetic Melee
Travel Power: Parkour
Status: Traveling. Following rumors of a huge city in Massachusetts that is teeming with supers.
Since it is now almost the end of October, I am thinking (and hoping) that they will release the Chargen on November 30, the date CoX shut down.
I think that would be an apt and poetic choice. A day that holds a lot of sadness for folks can become a day of new beginning instead.
Name: Safehouse
Ranger: Gunner
Primary: Force Blast
Secondary: Atrophic Aura
Tertiary: Kinetic Melee
Travel Power: Parkour
Status: Traveling. Following rumors of a huge city in Massachusetts that is teeming with supers.
What time do they typically publish their updates? The business day is just about over in North America.
There's no set time of day for the release. Recently, it's just as often fallen on Friday/Saturday. They don't update the banner often anymore so there's no way to know unless 1.) they post the update or 2.) a dev specifically says when.
EDIT: If I remember right, their HQ is technically in Washington so, as of right now, there are still a few hours in the 'workday'.
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Given the nature of the dev team being essentially all-volunteer, I don't know that "business hours" have much relevance. Really, I'd think it's more likely that we'll get an update outside of normal business hours, since many/most of the devs have day jobs.
But Warcabbit did say there was an update planned for today, and the devs generally don't say such things unless they're 99% sure. Of course, there's always that 1% chance of a Nemesis plot or Rikti invasion throwing things off-schedule (again). You didn't think the old server melted down all on its own, did you?
Curse you Rikti monkeys.
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