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Yes....THAT thread.

Yes....THAT thread.
sigh...all for the lack of bones my dreams will never come to pass. and alas I know nothing about code so I cannot mod my way to heaven.
so I'll have to make due with maxed out boob sliders.

(and devs I'm just asking for one Boob slider pass; min to max, while you tease the character creator...just once on the next twitch...do it casually and no one but I will know. because ya know if you're gonna do something, go for the gusto. you know you want to do it. do it. be free!)

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I’d like to second the

I’d like to second the request that we have some sort of teaser/reveal of the character creator soon! For me personally, i don’t feel like it has to be done or polished; I’d just love an indicator of where it stands in development currently.

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Cyclops wrote:
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Yes....THAT thread.
sigh...all for the lack of bones my dreams will never come to pass. and alas I know nothing about code so I cannot mod my way to heaven.
so I'll have to make due with maxed out boob sliders.

(and devs I'm just asking for one Boob slider pass; min to max, while you tease the character creator...just once on the next twitch...do it casually and no one but I will know. because ya know if you're gonna do something, go for the gusto. you know you want to do it. do it. be free!)

OK, this has gone beyond Weird and is now deep into Creepy territory, heading towards whatever category is beyond Creepy.

Spurn all ye kindle.

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Safehouse wrote:
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I’d like to second the request that we have some sort of teaser/reveal of the character creator soon! For me personally, i don’t feel like it has to be done or polished; I’d just love an indicator of where it stands in development currently.

It has been shown in our twitch streams which count as teasers in my book ;)


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One thing we have seen quite

One thing we have seen quite a bit is changes to the character, but they haven't really then transferred to the in game character. I would like to see a female or crazy different from what we've seen character created and loaded in the game. For example, make the character as big as they can get (tall/wide) and then have them run/jump around and show them off. And/or go the other way and make them as small as they can get (short/thin).

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But to make that, it needs to

But to make that, it needs to be integrated in the game :) being integrated in the game means the CC will be launched so, we don't need a twitch stream at this stage xD
Just having what you said Kiyori but, not integrated in the game will be already nice !

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Tannim222 wrote:
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Safehouse wrote:

I’d like to second the request that we have some sort of teaser/reveal of the character creator soon! For me personally, i don’t feel like it has to be done or polished; I’d just love an indicator of where it stands in development currently.

It has been shown in our twitch streams which count as teasers in my book ;)

Hey Tannim, probably not the place for it but, any timeline on when we could have a more in-depth look at how Armors and Aesthetic Decoupling works? Or examples?

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Hey Tannim, probably not the place for it but, any timeline on when we could have a more in-depth look at how Armors and Aesthetic Decoupling works? Or examples?

Yeah, that question should be its own thread.

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I’d like to second the request that we have some sort of teaser/reveal of the character creator soon! For me personally, i don’t feel like it has to be done or polished; I’d just love an indicator of where it stands in development currently.

It has been shown in our twitch streams which count as teasers in my book ;)

I'd totally give you that if the streams weren't deleted.

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But to make that, it needs to be integrated in the game :) being integrated in the game means the CC will be launched so, we don't need a twitch stream at this stage xD
Just having what you said Kiyori but, not integrated in the game will be already nice !

I don't mean bring the character into the final finished game, I mean bring it into the test area "game" that they were flying around in in most of the twitch streams so far.

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oh, ok. just to to put the

oh, ok. just to to put the character in situation so ?

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I'd totally give you that if the streams weren't deleted.

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I watched it after the fact

I watched it after the fact but a lot of the special reveals intended and not intended were at a very poor framerate. It was mostly discussed in chat. If there are technical issues like there were the other night where chat kept going for sometime after the "show" I would pull the chat window over into the screen even if it is idle so people know that chat is active and can see that at least.

I dunno, hindsight thought.

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Anyone know what happened to

Anyone know what happened to the twitch this week?

All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.

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If you wanna have some

If you wanna have some revelation, you could look at the article i wrote on the game content i found during my investigation ;) There are some unrevealed content like animations, FX, UI system and some environnement ^^ (beware we have some issues with our server. The association which handle our server are fixing it. Try again later if you don't have access to the website ^^)

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Ahem. I need to apologize

Ahem. I need to apologize about the twitch this week.

1: Dr. Tyche has hit his personal bandwidth cap due to a guest streaming without mentioning it. Comcast sucks.
2: Avel had some unpleasant news and personal business.
3: Rotty was unavailable this week for personal reasons.

That's right, we added a person and it got less reliable. I'm going to be over there screaming into a pillow.

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Just a silly question about

Just a silly question about your avatar, Warcabbit...is that a Ban Hammer your avatar is wielding? and how does it stack up to the Ban Crowbar?

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That's right, we added a person and it got less reliable. I'm going to be over there screaming into a pillow.

Don't worry, i'm sure you'll redeem yourself with a very very huge and joyfull news today !! xD

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Yeah, I got laid off of my

Yeah, I got laid off of my job Monday evening. The project I got hired for got cancelled. I may wind up doing that GoFundMe after all! I'm mostly worried about my $600/mos house payment until I find replacement work. My monthly unemployment is less than $800. I didn't know about the issue with the bandwidth cap until we were deep in the middle of a board meeting Wednesday (once a month is obligatory for us by law).

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Heck, I didn't until got a

Heck, I didn't until got a pop-up saying "hey, you're over your limit"

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My wife went on a pillow

My wife went on a pillow buying spree lately, if you need an extra one or two, I can FedEx one your way.

Ain't RL a bitch sometimes? I can relate to your issues though. Until recently, with the tight job market where I live, I felt like a Frog (appropriately, I'm of French descent) jumping from one job position to another (keeps fingers crossed). I've kept up (barely) with bills and mortgage payments, but some months were . . . arrrggghhh.

Having said all that, I will be able to contribute a bit to your Fund Me account as I just got I nice annual bonus. Bread cast upon the waters and all that.

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Come in France Dude, we'll

Come in France Dude, we'll have lots of work here in IT and not enought people !
Sorry you lost your job :/ I hope you'll find one quickly

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I felt like a Frog (appropriately, I'm of French descent) jumping from one job position to another (keeps fingers crossed).

Maybe be you can help us in translating the game in French ? :)

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TitansCity wrote:
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I felt like a Frog (appropriately, I'm of French descent) jumping from one job position to another (keeps fingers crossed).

Maybe be you can help us in translating the game in French ? :)

Sadly, my French is more of the local patois used by the Quebecois youth. Lots of slang and terminology that is most definitely NOT proper French. IF I were to travel in France, I would have to go BACK to school to learn Proper Parasien French.

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Go to Wikipedia and look up

Go to Wikipedia and look up "Joual". You will see why I am reluctant to help. Our French in parts of Quebec has degenerated so badly, a lot of popular expressions are virtually unrecognizable to the European French speaker.

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Je ne parle pas francais. Je

Je ne parle pas francais. Je comprende un petit pas.

I apologize for the butchering of another language.

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Je ne parle pas francais. Je comprende un petit pas..

Ahahah ! I don't speak french. I understand a little step xD you meant 'je comprends un peu" (a few, a little)

French is really hard and complex :/ i must admit it and it's usually hard to translate the meaning since there is lots of way to understand some words and more with some expressions ^^ But, we'll succeed in translating the game ! 'Cause, we are heroes and heroes never give up ! :p

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Devs for your peace of mind,

Devs for your peace of mind, we can deal with a few less twitch streams. take care of business and we'll watch your back.
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My wife went on a pillow buying spree lately, if you need an extra one or two, I can FedEx one your way.

Ain't RL a bitch sometimes? I can relate to your issues though. Until recently, with the tight job market where I live, I felt like a Frog (appropriately, I'm of French descent) jumping from one job position to another (keeps fingers crossed). I've kept up (barely) with bills and mortgage payments, but some months were . . . arrrggghhh.

Having said all that, I will be able to contribute a bit to your Fund Me account as I just got I nice annual bonus. Bread cast upon the waters and all that.

The joke about the GoFundMe was about upgrading my hardware. :)
But I'll happily take a pillow.
The job loss was quite sudden and my boss from it is taking me out to lunch next week to see if we can do something to rescue the project. I even have access to the company gym still. They simply don't have enough work to justify paying my salary - and I agreed with them. I'd be sitting around the desk all day feeling useless. Underworked and overpaid. They are helping as they can to finding me work elsewhere. They are an extremely good company to work for and they take care of their people as much as they can. No, I don't need money; I just need work. Unfortunately finding it again is going to pull me away from doing things for this project. Please note I'm the one who told my bosses that the project they brought me in to rescue was in such a bad state that it needed to be redone entirely and couldn't simply be converted to a better format. The people they outsourced to to screwed them for more than $600K USD. My losses are tiny compared to theirs. Time and other resources permitting I'm still willing to work on the project as a personal thing just because I hate that kind of crap. I might even get other volunteers.

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Come in France Dude, we'll have lots of work here in IT and not enought people !
Sorry you lost your job :/ I hope you'll find one quickly

I've lived in Europe before (Germany five years; England two years) and wouldn't mind France but I'm not in a position to relocate. Not a bad idea though, but thanks for the support and the kind words.

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Devs for your peace of mind, we can deal with a few less twitch streams. take care of business and we'll watch your back.
Take care!

I'm of the opinion now that we should move from weekly to monthly. That gives us time to prepare better an we are more likely to have something significant to show. Holiday specials of course should be considered.

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I would love to be

I would love to be underworked and overpaid. Right now I'm underworked and underpaid. Or perhaps I'm paid enough for the little work I do.

I'm just really really lazy.

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I'm of the opinion now that we should move from weekly to monthly. That gives us time to prepare better an we are more likely to have something significant to show. Holiday specials of course should be considered.

That will make me sad :( I must feed the readers ! They are hungry ! can we deal on every 2 weeks ? xD
(ok, ok... i am hungry.. people are maybe hungry than me in France ^^ or maybe not considering ysangard who make monthly videos to summarize news ^^)

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I would love to be underworked and overpaid. Right now I'm underworked and underpaid. Or perhaps I'm paid enough for the little work I do.

I'm just really really lazy.

_._

I hate boredom. If I was just sitting around all day I'd go stir crazy. I just want enough cash to pay my bills with a few luxuries.

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Devs for your peace of mind, we can deal with a few less twitch streams. take care of business and we'll watch your back.
Take care!

I'm of the opinion now that we should move from weekly to monthly. That gives us time to prepare better an we are more likely to have something significant to show. Holiday specials of course should be considered.

I can get behind that, would rather see quality over quantity and I know the stream presentations must be time-consuming for the team.

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avelworldcreator wrote:
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I would love to be underworked and overpaid. Right now I'm underworked and underpaid. Or perhaps I'm paid enough for the little work I do.

I'm just really really lazy.

_._

I hate boredom. If I was just sitting around all day I'd go stir crazy. I just want enough cash to pay my bills with a few luxuries.

I want the same thing cash wise. I don't need a job I like, just one I can do that pays enough for me to get by. But I wouldn't mind sitting around all day. Given unlimited free time I might find something I enjoy doing.

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I don't know your situation

I don't know your situation but Ive known some people who will drive for Uber or Lyft to get some cash in between jobs. Just an idea! But yeah I wish you luck, i've been laid off before and it sucks.

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I don't know your situation but Ive known some people who will drive for Uber or Lyft to get some cash in between jobs. Just an idea! But yeah I wish you luck, i've been laid off before and it sucks.

I'm working on getting my expired drivers license renew sadly. I have a vehicle but I still need to get my tags for it, etc. And it's a pickup truck. Not probably the best vehicle to do taxi work.

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I don't know your situation but Ive known some people who will drive for Uber or Lyft to get some cash in between jobs. Just an idea! But yeah I wish you luck, i've been laid off before and it sucks.

I'm working on getting my expired drivers license renew sadly. I have a vehicle but I still need to get my tags for it, etc. And it's a pickup truck. Not probably the best vehicle to do taxi work.

Even better! Have them lay in the bed of the truck like an open sardine can and you can fit more passengers!

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I suspect in the winter

I suspect in the winter getting repeat customers might become an issue quickly!

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Alright, this thread is starting to get weird, just don't say that stuff 3 times or Lothic will show up :3

Fine, lets change the subject. Just FYI, I know for a fact Lothic would back me up! :)

Sorry for the slight necropost on this line of discussion but I've been out at sea for the last month aboard one of the Navy ships we do work for and the Navy (for some reason) isn't allowing access to this site in particular. Sadly this site is pretty much the only one I can't get to while we're at sea - apparently the US Navy hates superheroes... J/K. ;)

Anyway to the point at hand I wouldn't mind seeing an in-depth preview of the latest version of the character creator, including ALL of the sliders. I see no reason why seeing the breast, bum, package, etc. slider controls needs to be considered "weird" or "creepy" and I honestly think people who are reacting negatively to that idea are being a bit immature about it.

Contrary to what people seem to believe about me I'm actually specifically interested to see how FLAT I can make the female body model's chest. One of the things that always bothered me about CoH was that the minimum chest size in that game was roughly a C-cup and that made it almost impossible to create naturally waifish or child-aged girls. To be clear I have nothing against Power Girl clones for CoT - I just want a full range of size options, not just large to ultralarge.

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You mean the thread that must not be named?? The necro-thread of all necro-threads, THAT thread!?

I happen to think it's hilarious that I might have had something to do with creating a "Voldemort thread" on this forum. Again I've simply come to accept that anyone who reacted badly to that thread did so out of a place of arbitrary ignorance and/or shortsightedness. *shrugs*

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I really hold no ill will to

I really hold no ill will to any of the topics, I merely jest

I also want to see all options and ranges for all the categories.

I said it was getting weird, I never said it was a bad thing :D

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question apart : will it be a livestream tomorrow ? ^^

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question apart : will it be a livestream tomorrow ? ^^

We're working through technical issues. Maybe?

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We may do a test stream first

We may do a test stream first to see if Richard's system issues have been resolved after the last stream from him went so oddly.

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Thanks for the answer :) We'll see so :) *crossfinger*

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Just a silly question about your avatar, Warcabbit...is that a Ban Hammer your avatar is wielding? and how does it stack up to the Ban Crowbar?

Oh, no. It's a construction hammer. For building worlds.

I use a surgical two by four for banning.

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Just a silly question about your avatar, Warcabbit...is that a Ban Hammer your avatar is wielding? and how does it stack up to the Ban Crowbar?

Oh, no. It's a construction hammer. For building worlds.

I use a surgical two by four for banning.

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I looked at the stream and i

I looked at the stream and i really enjoy the part on the base builder :)

Some points i wanted to share :
- The introduction was very cool :) Maybe the youtube channel is missing ? or maybe the different logos at the bottom of the vids to help people know you have some other media ? (twitter, youtube, reddit)
- The base builder seems really cool ! And i think the idea to center the wheel on the theme content could be a nice idea :) Lots of people will spend time to build their base with that xD Noone will play the game with that, everyone will build his superbase xD
- i realize, when i see the character running, that his pose is not really "normal". I never saw someone running with the chest as straight as his :D when we run, the chest always leans forward a little. But, if you shuffle along (hum... run really not quickly... sorry i don't have the word for that), ok the chest will maybe not be forward.

An advise for Avel : Never open personal stuff during a stream :D
Next it, could you put a little more sound on the mic ? 'cause we can't hear what you said very well ( i must admit that hearing english is more difficult than reading it so ... with more sound, it could be easier for us, foreigners :D Fortunately, what warcabbit is writing helps a lot !! ^^)

Whatever, thanks for this livestream even if there were some issues ^^ Looking that base stuff is really nice !

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I believe the run animation

I believe the run animation was stock and is actually more of a jogging animation where a person may not lean their chest forward when jogging.


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TitansCity wrote:
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I looked at the stream and i really enjoy the part on the base builder :)

Some points i wanted to share :
- The introduction was very cool :) Maybe the youtube channel is missing ? or maybe the different logos at the bottom of the vids to help people know you have some other media ? (twitter, youtube, reddit)

I was using an older stock video for that. We plan on revising some things. I'll make sure to point that out. Thank you.

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I looked at the stream and i really enjoy the part on the base builder :)
- The base builder seems really cool ! And i think the idea to center the wheel on the theme content could be a nice idea :) Lots of people will spend time to build their base with that xD Noone will play the game with that, everyone will build his superbase xD

Given that like City of Heroes/Villians required you to play to build up the points to buy parts for your bases to solve that problem I think we will do much the same. But once you get it built you will also want to play to show it off to people.

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I looked at the stream and i really enjoy the part on the base builder :)
- i realize, when i see the character running, that his pose is not really "normal". I never saw someone running with the chest as straight as his :D when we run, the chest always leans forward a little. But, if you shuffle along (hum... run really not quickly... sorry i don't have the word for that), ok the chest will maybe not be forward.

The guy who is doing the base builder was just using the stock Unreal character instead of ours for doing this demo. We'll be fixing that. We just wanted to show it off as we had the videos handy.

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I looked at the stream and i really enjoy the part on the base builder :)
An advise for Avel : Never open personal stuff during a stream :D

It wasn't intentional. I was expecting about another hour go get ready because I had lost track of time. I didn't realize I had that particular email still open. Someone in the chats kept saying "Change your email" but without context I had no clue what he meant. I have two monitors and I would have moved the browser over to the other one but I literally ran out of time to do vital pre-broadcast checks and tests.

I know English isn't your primary language. The word is "advice". "Advise" is the verb/adverb form; "advice" is the noun. "The adviser's job is to advise the king by giving him advice".

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I looked at the stream and i really enjoy the part on the base builder :)
Next it, could you put a little more sound on the mic ? 'cause we can't hear what you said very well ( i must admit that hearing english is more difficult than reading it so ... with more sound, it could be easier for us, foreigners :D Fortunately, what warcabbit is writing helps a lot !! ^^)

You mean "volume". Yeah, you aren't the only one who complained. I had my microphone setting at 100% but was worried about raising the gain any further because my partly deaf mother had the TV up loud in another room. I have tools to fix this but I, again, ran out of time to finish doing the pre-recorded part right.

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I looked at the stream and i really enjoy the part on the base builder :)
Whatever, thanks for this livestream even if there were some issues ^^ Looking that base stuff is really nice !

You are welcome. I was hoping to do a much more professional broadcast this week but it didn't quite work out as planned. Does it ever?

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Hey, it was a test as much as

Hey, it was a test as much as a stream to make sure your system was back to normal.

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I looked at the stream and i really enjoy the part on the base builder :)

The guy who is doing the base builder was just using the stock Unreal character instead of ours for doing this demo. We'll be fixing that. We just wanted to show it off as we had the videos handy.

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I looked at the stream and i really enjoy the part on the base builder :)

I'd be the guy.

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Thanks for all your answers :

Thanks for all your answers :) (and the corrections ^^)

Amievil, i don't know what your answer are about xD the quotes you wrote are not specific enought :/

At least Dr. You now know Avel's systeme is running nice. Just some final adjustments like mic and e-mail and it'will be perfect xD

Oh, speaking of the livestream. It is not available anymore :/ 2 days after... There's really no way to keep them online in twitch ? :/ I haven't even the time to come back to make some screenshot to write something about the base builder...

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Avel accidentally showed

Avel accidentally showed something that is against Twitch's TOS. I'll be editing that part out and reposting it tomorrow.

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Oh crap ! :/ Twitch seems not

Oh crap ! :/ Twitch seems not really an easy plateform :/
Thanks for the answer Dr. :)

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Thanks for all your answers :) (and the corrections ^^)
Amievil, i don't know what your answer are about xD the quotes you wrote are not specific enought :/

In the twitch stream, Avel had mentioned that someone else was controlling the character in the base building pre-recorded video. AmIEvil was just posting that he was the one in the base builder video.

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Thanks for all your answers :) (and the corrections ^^)
Amievil, i don't know what your answer are about xD the quotes you wrote are not specific enought :/

In the twitch stream, Avel had mentioned that someone else was controlling the character in the base building pre-recorded video. AmIEvil was just posting that he was the one in the base builder video.

Correct I was mainly stating I am the guy working on the base builder.

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I'd still prefer a base

I'd still prefer a base builder that didn't require a character walking around at all, but oh well...

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I'd still prefer a base builder that didn't require a character walking around at all, but oh well...

It will not when finally integrated. We have it in there for now pretty much because we did not bother removing that particular blueprint.

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I wouldn't mind it being an

I wouldn't mind it being an option. Say you have the overview option where you are out of body, but you can then switch to in body mode to get a better look at where you are placing things and get a different perspective.

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I wouldn't mind it being an option. Say you have the overview option where you are out of body, but you can then switch to in body mode to get a better look at where you are placing things and get a different perspective.

Right, CoH was ridiculously disproportionned and it was often weird when you put a standard hero in your base after ^^

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I know the audio was poor but

I know the audio was poor but I made a direct disclaimer that the base builder as viewed was not the final product. The guy behind it has been planning to have it default to 1st person.

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As of right now there are 3

As of right now there are 3 view modes third person as seen in the twitch, first person where you don't see the character, and a isometric overhead view. Might change but that's how it is for now.

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Multiple viewpoints sounds

Multiple viewpoints sounds like just the thing we need!

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i agree ! moreover if we can

i agree ! moreover if we can switch during the building :)

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As of right now there are 3 view modes third person as seen in the twitch, first person where you don't see the character, and a isometric overhead view. Might change but that's how it is for now.

Whoa. That's a pretty innovative option for an MMO! Isometric could totally change how the game feels and plays.

I'm a staunch third person player when it comes to MMO's, but that's a really neat option to have.

How does the system currently handle camera change in small rooms?

What kinds of LoS issues does this present? Like, in City of Heroes, clickable objects only cared about proximity and had 0 LoS restrictions, so you could do things like manipulate the camera around a corner to get a glowie that was surrounded by enemies on the other side of a wall. Is that different here?

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As of right now there are 3 view modes third person as seen in the twitch, first person where you don't see the character, and a isometric overhead view. Might change but that's how it is for now.

Whoa. That's a pretty innovative option for an MMO! Isometric could totally change how the game feels and plays.

I'm a staunch third person player when it comes to MMO's, but that's a really neat option to have.

How does the system currently handle camera change in small rooms?

What kinds of LoS issues does this present? Like, in City of Heroes, clickable objects only cared about proximity and had 0 LoS restrictions, so you could do things like manipulate the camera around a corner to get a glowie that was surrounded by enemies on the other side of a wall. Is that different here?

The base building views are different than game play. We plan to allow camera movement simiarly but combat and interactions are limited by character LoS and range, not by camera placement.


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Ahhh gotcha. Cool, thanks!

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Is that possible to watch the

Is that possible to watch the previous twitch? It's not online anymore already... :'(

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Is that possible to watch the previous twitch? It's not online anymore already... :'(

Recurring theme needs to stop recurring.


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Is that possible to watch the previous twitch? It's not online anymore already... :'(

Recurring theme needs to stop recurring.

hehe, I was wondering that also. Wanted to watch previous streams.

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Phararri wrote:
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Is that possible to watch the previous twitch? It's not online anymore already... :'(

Recurring theme needs to stop recurring.

hehe, I was wondering that also. Wanted to watch previous streams.

We deliberately removed it. I had accidentally exposed some personal information in my email that was quite in violation of Twitches ToS. I have a prerecorded version I need to get uploaded. It doesn't have the issue.

Edit: Actually they tell me they want to save it for a full update.

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my partly deaf mother had the TV up loud in another room. I have tools to fix this

They are called headphones =P

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I'm a staunch third person player when it comes to MMO's, but that's a really neat option to have.

Me too, if I don't have my toon to focus on I get motion sick.

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Is that possible to watch the previous twitch? It's not online anymore already... :'(

Recurring theme needs to stop recurring.

Everybody don't spend as much time as us on the forum ;)

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1: Twitch is coming.

1: Twitch is coming.
2: Yeah, someone sort of left some information that reaaaaallly shouldn't have been there on the screen for half the stream.

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So aiming for sometime around 9:30 Eastern.

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That was so embarrassing.

That was so embarrassing. MWM couldn't try to sabotage their regard as well as when they try so hard to improve it and fail like this.

If anyone was looking for evidence that MWM will not be able to put forth a quality product, not even discussing schedule, they need only look at the past 6 months of attempted Twitch streams.

I think MWM should cease attempting to do these until they have the proper planning and forethought to do it well. Or at least to do it correctly.


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That was so embarrassing. MWM couldn't try to sabotage their regard as well as when they try so hard to improve it and fail like this.

If anyone was looking for evidence that MWM will not be able to put forth a quality product, not even discussing schedule, they need only look at the past 6 months of attempted Twitch streams.

I think MWM should cease attempting to do these until they have the proper planning and forethought to do it well. Or at least to do it correctly.

Unfortunately I agree. Despite being a majority of volunteers, they are still a company (MWM) trying to release a product in a very specific niche. Their scope and hopes might be better than other games, but when you watch streams from Ship of Heroes, for example, the professionalism is a night and day difference. I think they need to nerf live-streaming altogether given how many issues they have every stream and create one video a month...a well edited video I might add. They don't have as much time as other game, like SoH, hence the single video a month instead of each week.

I truly don't wish to sound critical, especially of a game I think/hope will be the best successor/replacement of CoH, but I don't want to see the bedroom in the streams. I don't want to stare at his desktop for 1/2 the stream while he tries to figure out what is going wrong. Again, I hope I am not coming across as a jerk because there have been some amazing things CoT has showed us, but its time to cut out the unprofessional stuff and start giving quality streams or pre-recorded videos. Even if its only once every month and a half or two months. Being as close as they say they are to launch, within a year, **if they can figure out the integration issues**, they should really start thinking about their image in these streams and videos since that is where so many people go to try and get a feel for the game and what it might be like.

Again, I'm a die-hard CoT fan so far, and planning to donate during the Second Chance, and everything I've said, I said it because I want this game to succeed and blow all the other CoH successors out of the water. Truly. Nothing was said to spite anyone on the dev team or anything like that. Quite the opposite.

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Huckleberry wrote:
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That was so embarrassing. MWM couldn't try to sabotage their regard as well as when they try so hard to improve it and fail like this.

If anyone was looking for evidence that MWM will not be able to put forth a quality product, not even discussing schedule, they need only look at the past 6 months of attempted Twitch streams.

I think MWM should cease attempting to do these until they have the proper planning and forethought to do it well. Or at least to do it correctly.

This was an intentionally free-form video. No planning. It was for feedback on some audio from our base with the intended use in our UI. I had a family issue come up that required me to interrupt the stream.

We are a game software organization not a video production company but your comparisons to other companies neglects that all of their videos are either in a dedicated studio or pre-recorded. Your complaints are non-sequitur.

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Huckleberry wrote:

That was so embarrassing. MWM couldn't try to sabotage their regard as well as when they try so hard to improve it and fail like this.

If anyone was looking for evidence that MWM will not be able to put forth a quality product, not even discussing schedule, they need only look at the past 6 months of attempted Twitch streams.

I think MWM should cease attempting to do these until they have the proper planning and forethought to do it well. Or at least to do it correctly.

Unfortunately I agree. Despite being a majority of volunteers, they are still a company (MWM) trying to release a product in a very specific niche. Their scope and hopes might be better than other games, but when you watch streams from Ship of Heroes, for example, the professionalism is a night and day difference. I think they need to nerf live-streaming altogether given how many issues they have every stream and create one video a month...a well edited video I might add. They don't have as much time as other game, like SoH, hence the single video a month instead of each week.

I truly don't wish to sound critical, especially of a game I think/hope will be the best successor/replacement of CoH, but I don't want to see the bedroom in the streams. I don't want to stare at his desktop for 1/2 the stream while he tries to figure out what is going wrong. Again, I hope I am not coming across as a jerk because there have been some amazing things CoT has showed us, but its time to cut out the unprofessional stuff and start giving quality streams or pre-recorded videos. Even if its only once every month and a half or two months. Being as close as they say they are to launch, within a year, **if they can figure out the integration issues**, they should really start thinking about their image in these streams and videos since that is where so many people go to try and get a feel for the game and what it might be like.

Again, I'm a die-hard CoT fan so far, and planning to donate during the Second Chance, and everything I've said, I said it because I want this game to succeed and blow all the other CoH successors out of the water. Truly. Nothing was said to spite anyone on the dev team or anything like that. Quite the opposite.

As I said to the other person this was an intentional free-form stream with the intent go get audience feedback. That will not work with pre-recorded video. That meant live and casual even to the point of showing of a quick image of a cat that caused an interruption. And I ASKED the audience before doing that. None of us has a professional production studio to work from - our money is going to development and production and NOT non-producting labor or office space - we don't have the cash reserves to pay for that - yet. I DO have professional software and I'm the one who has been advocating pre-recorded streams for this. I had to interrupt the video for a family issue which is another reason I dislike live broadcasts - especially from my home.

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If you want feedback on the

If you want feedback on the audio for the UI, you need to have the UI on display so the people could see which visual elements the audio was being associated with.

For instance, some of the double-click sounding audio files would be perfect for a toggle button, but not so much for a menu tree and not for slotting an augment into its slot.
Is the UI going to be skeumorphic? If so, then it would make sense to have button sounds that sound like 3D buttons being pressed or augments being fitted into their slots, for example. Do we want our toggles to sound like switches or dials with detents, or do we want them to sound like spring-loaded buttons? That would depend on the graphical representation of the toggle.

Every person who gave you feedback during that stream was working off of his or her own mental model of what we were discussing. If I was managing that project, I would have dismissed any conclusions from the feedback you received as invalid for that reason.


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Right now it's a no-win

Right now it's a no-win situation irt the stream. It would be smarter to only stream when there is new material to show off, but when we don't do one regularly, people get concerned.

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Right now it's a no-win situation irt the stream. It would be smarter to only stream when there is new material to show off, but when we don't do one regularly, people get concerned.

I feel you.

There is nothing inherently wrong with an informal twitch stream between a developer and some interested fans. I personally wish you would do more of them. But when the recurring problem of not being able to do what you want to do happens every time... there is only one conclusion people are going to come to. They are going to think that the game development suffers the same problems with lack of technical infrastructure and project planning and you will be debugging it the entire first year and people won't be able to play it because nothing will work right.

Concerns are unknowns. Perhaps at this point a negative unknown is better than a negative known.


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I dont know what happened but

I dont know what happened but no need to attack MWM. They are doing more than you are to get a game like COH back up and running.

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I dont know what happened but no need to attack MWM. They are doing more than you are to get a game like COH back up and running.

They certainly are. And my opinion is worth only as much as they deem it.

If I didn't care, I would have stayed silent.


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