Yeah, they'll totally do that when it's in the same post as a "Fixed it for you."

Yep. Definitely. And it takes so much effort to, in the rare occasion that they do somehow think that, say "Oh, no someone edited that post for a dumb joke. I mean it's pretty clear as they did the 'fixed it for you' thing. I literally do not know how you missed that, but yeah, that post was edited from it's original form."

Honestly it's way worse if someone changes their original post that people quote. That is pretty much attempting to rewrite history. Seen that done.

Someone else quoting that post and editing the quote does... Absolutely nothing. It is by way of things just a joke

Edit: fixed an error. Also what I said above but like, they don't do the thing I do and show the edits I make to my own post.

Project_Hero wrote:

Wolfgang8565 wrote:

One of the most annoying things people do on here is editing what someone says.

It's not cute, its not funny, and saying it was just for laughs is a joke. We all know how much that touches a nerve with people.

Actually, I don't know that. This is literally the first I'm hearing of it. I see it done on other forums and no one minds. Because it's a joke. I made it clear that I had edited it, so there's really nothing to get mad about.

It's the forum equivalent of

"This thing sucks"
"I think you mean it's awesome."

There's literally no harm in it.

So what's the beef with it, exactly?

On some other forums it’s a bannable offense. And for good reason. It’s incredibly disruptive. Not because you’re offending someone (though that’s also bad) but because you’re making it incredibly difficult for someone reading the thread and trying to follow along. When you quote someone and alter what you quoted, you’re making it look like someone said something they didn’t. Whether you meant harm by it, it does harm the forum itself in making it difficult to have a proper discussion.

It’s especially egregious when you don’t somehow make it clear what you altered, even if you’re making it clear that you altered something in your quote.

Frankly, I find it extremely annoying just reading this thread. Okay, you “humorously” altered Mordheim13’s quote. What did you alter? Let me scroll upward, look around, ah, there’s the original post. Okay, scroll back down, I’ll look at your quote again. Scroll back up, I see what you changed. Scroll back down, did you change anything else? Scroll back up, okay you changed that bit too.

What a colossal waste of time for a “joke”. But at least I caught on to the fact that a quote was altered. The real disruption is when someone sees a quote, assumes the quote is accurate, and participates in the discussion with that assumption.

So again, it’s not a harmless exercise, and while it may be common in some discussion forums in others it’s expressly forbidden.

Atama wrote:

Project_Hero wrote:

Wolfgang8565 wrote:

One of the most annoying things people do on here is editing what someone says.

It's not cute, its not funny, and saying it was just for laughs is a joke. We all know how much that touches a nerve with people.

Actually, I don't know that. This is literally the first I'm hearing of it. I see it done on other forums and no one minds. Because it's a joke. I made it clear that I had edited it, so there's really nothing to get mad about.

It's the forum equivalent of

"This thing sucks"
"I think you mean it's awesome."

There's literally no harm in it.

So what's the beef with it, exactly?

On some other forums it’s a bannable offense. And for good reason. It’s incredibly disruptive. Not because you’re offending someone (though that’s also bad) but because you’re making it incredibly difficult for someone reading the thread and trying to follow along. When you quote someone and alter what you quoted, you’re making it look like someone said something they didn’t. Whether you meant harm by it, it does harm the forum itself in making it difficult to have a proper discussion.

It’s especially egregious when you don’t somehow make it clear what you altered, even if you’re making it clear that you altered something in your quote.

Frankly, I find it extremely annoying just reading this thread. Okay, you “humorously” altered Mordheim13’s quote. What did you alter? Let me scroll upward, look around, ah, there’s the original post. Okay, scroll back down, I’ll look at your quote again. Scroll back up, I see what you changed. Scroll back down, did you change anything else? Scroll back up, okay you changed that bit too.

What a colossal waste of time for a “joke”. But at least I caught on to the fact that a quote was altered. The real disruption is when someone sees a quote, assumes the quote is accurate, and participates in the discussion with that assumption.

So again, it’s not a harmless exercise, and while it may be common in some discussion forums in others it’s expressly forbidden.

Yeah, you could do that thing you said... Or you could have just not. "Oh something was changed, whatever."

In what forums is it a bannable offense? Cause I've never ran into it.

And yeah, I can definitely see it being an actual problem if they don't make it clear the quote was edited... But I did make it clear. I even cut out the majority of the quote that remained unaltered. And my quote was literally under theirs, IIRC.

So oh no, you chose to waste like a minute, tops, of your life on an off topic remark in a thread.

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Please don’t make me turn off e-mail notifications on this thread. I’s Prefer to be able to catch up on posts they are relevant or have to get a mod-hammer from my tool chest.

Don't know if it's been answered already, but are we going to get more masteries when the level cap increases?

I sort of remember this being answered already with a no, but I could be imagining things.

Brand X wrote:

I recall them saying all masteries by level 30 but that makes me wonder, if there's a plan for something akin to the Incarnate abilities.

Yeah, I think I recall the same.

And they might have something like those. Or something else that has you increase in power.

Something that lets you up the power of tertiary powers would be neat. It'd probably only work for ones that aren't shared by your primary or secondary powersets. But could make a tertiary closer to a secondary in power.

Just brainstorming

Interdictor wrote:

Project_Hero wrote:

Don't know if it's been answered already, but are we going to get more masteries when the level cap increases?

I sort of remember this being answered already with a no, but I could be imagining things.

We get to select our third and final Mastery at level 25, and the initial level cap is 30, so it looks like the answer to your question is in fact a "no".

This is correct. The final Mastery is at level 25. No new Mastery Powers last that. We want you to enjoy and explore the upper tier powers of your sets.

We have no level-cap profession systems - yet.
We have ideas for them. The majority are centered in horizontal profession systems.

That makes a lot of sense. At a certain point, it's good to just get real comfortable with the powers/abilities you have, rather than be constantly reaching for some new brass ring. In various pen-and-paper RPGs, it's often clever usage of your 2nd or 3rd level spells that really help you, not that Mega Spell that you got 2 levels before you topped out. How many toys does one hero need? Don't answer that, Batman.

Mordheim13 wrote:

That makes a lot of sense. At a certain point, it's good to just get real comfortable with the powers/abilities you have, rather than be constantly reaching for some new brass ring. In various pen-and-paper RPGs, it's often clever usage of your 2nd or 3rd level spells that really help you, not that Mega Spell that you got 2 levels before you topped out. How many toys does one hero need? Don't answer that, Batman.

The idea is for more toys, just not more powerful ones. So with the theme of the wizard spells you'd never get the Mega Spell™, you'd get more 2-3 level spells, or possibly the ability to cast some of them for free, or something.

You don't have more mechanical power, persay, but you have more mechanical versatility.

I wonder how MWM will pull this off. Perhaps high level augments (or is it refinements?) that drastically change what powers can do? I suppose only time will tell.

Tranquil Flower wrote:

rookslide wrote:

It’s exactly what’s wrong with kids today. No respect for others or their boundaries, despite knowing the form of response it provokes. It is at best adolescent behavior and at worst insidious.

"The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise."

As that's from Socrates around 400BC I'm not entirely convinced of your use of 'today'.

You know what they say; the more things change...

No, each generation THINKS they are more "empathetic and tolerant", while often proving themselves much otherwise. Honestly, humanity never changes. They just move a few pieces around the chessboard, but the game remains the same.

rookslide wrote:

Yeah my kids thought like that too until they grew up. Now they constantly remark about how they didn’t get it until they went through a bit more of life and now they are so much more respectful.

Tolerance and empathy are very good qualities when in the company of respectfulness and experience.

Frankly the only reason I really got involved earlier is because I agreed with what mordheim said about Disney and felt you took the “joking” further than funny when asked nicely to stop. I think they are making poor choices with the Star Wars direction and I’m becoming less of a fan as they continue to muddy the waters of a great story. I do think there are some very good things they have done but there is more I don’t care for than like in general.

I agree about Star Wars (except for Rogue One and Solo), but that's just my opinion. I don't mind others having a different one, unlike some who apparently disagree with mine. Must be that "tolerance and empathy" being demonstrated. :) Thanks for showing I'm not alone.
But anyway, enough on this, I should think. Done is done.

I love all of the QUALITY Star Wars we’re getting. Not Ewok Adventure stuff. Rogue One rivals ESB as my favorite SW movie. I thought Rebels was a fantastic show. The core Star Wars movies being made (the ones with “Episode” in their names) make up for the prequel films. I feel like this is the best time ever for a SW fan.

Totally agree on the prequels they were pretty bad. There original three are the best in my opinion. I never got into the odd ball stuff like like Christmas specials or anything. The force awakens was mostly good and rogue one was pretty good but I have yet to see solo. I have not heard much good about solo so far though... trying to withhold judgement on it but it’s hard to when the actors are being quoted as “yeah this isn’t what my character would have done.” So I’m skeptical of how solo will be...

I also feel like Disney tends to dumb down storylines in general. Don’t get me wrong I like a lot of Disney. Grew up with it, but of late it feels more like they are out to make the dough and sacrificing quality stories.

Project_Hero wrote:

Oh yeah, I did some digging about that quote someone put up and... Yeah, not by any famous ancient philosopher.

It actually comes from "a student, Kenneth John Freeman, for his Cambridge dissertation published in 1907."

And is not attributed to be from Socrates via Plato.

This is the second time on this forum someone used some quote attributed to a philosopher to back up their argument only to have it actually not be from that person.

Go figure.

Anyway on the Disney Star wars, love it. I want more of it. It's not like Lucas was doing anything good with it. Christmas Special, prequels, ick. The best things to come out of Star Wars during that time were the things Lucas had very little input in, like clone wars (both 2D and 3D). Now you're free to dislike the movies, that's fine. But the new ones don't invalidate parts of the old ones like, say, the prequels did, so you can still go back and watch the old Star Wars movies completely unabashed. And maybe like, Mordy, you'll find some new ones you -do- like.

I mean they're going to release a new one like, every year until they're no longer profitable there's bound to be some between now and whenever the heck they stop that you'll like.

Me, I'm just glad to get more Star Wars. And I love how they're opening it up. New weird aliens, new weird planets, best bad guy in the series because he's a meta commentary on pretty much all EU villains, cool new space ships, droids, everything!

It's so cool!

Whoa! The prequels were awesome! Love those lightsaber battles!

This is what upsets me about TLJ. Where was Luke fighting like they did in prequels? Why are they killing off all the older ones (and I have no doubt they would've killed Leia off in the IX, even if Carrie didn't die)? Why aren't they killing off Chewie?! Yeah! Kill Chewie off. Leave Luke alive! Why did they turn one of the most awesome of Jedi into...*sigh*...maybe I just never should've read the books.

Luke died, because they didn't want the originals showing back up. Out with the old.

I never saw the amoral aspect. Stop evil. That's what Jedi did. Did they screw up on somethings? Yes. Obviously. What worked for all the rest of them, obviously wasn't working for others.

Brand X wrote:

Luke died, because they didn't want the originals showing back up. Out with the old.

I never saw the amoral aspect. Stop evil. That's what Jedi did. Did they screw up on somethings? Yes. Obviously. What worked for all the rest of them, obviously wasn't working for others.

Did the Jedi free slaves? No. Did they go out of their way to help people? No. What did they do? They enforced the laws of the Republic within the Republic. No more no less. They, as a whole, did not care about the suffering in the galaxy and did nothing to prevent it.

Also they take children away from their parents and raise them in a weird sexless cult like setting. Oh and also they set all Jedi up for failure by telling them not to get attached but then pair them up with someone for large parts of their lives so they can form a strong emotional bond with them.

The Jedi seperate children from the parents. The parents could be moved to the Jedi temples, they are not. Or a Jedi Master could stay with the family till the child comes to a certain age, they do not.

Just because there are worse things in the galaxy doesn't make the Jedi better.

Where is that stated in the movies?

At any rate the Jedi aren't allowed to love, which is dumb. They're taught to suppress their emotions so much so that when something happens to make them emotional they aren't prepared to handle it.

Project_Hero wrote:

The Jedi seperate children from the parents. The parents could be moved to the Jedi temples, they are not. Or a Jedi Master could stay with the family till the child comes to a certain age, they do not.

Just because there are worse things in the galaxy doesn't make the Jedi better.

Where is that stated in the movies?

At any rate the Jedi aren't allowed to love, which is dumb. They're taught to suppress their emotions so much so that when something happens to make them emotional they aren't prepared to handle it.

Weird. Notice how when you say that, most of the Jedi go on handle all that. Don't lose it.

Anakin lost it.

Mind you, I agree that a force user should maybe be taught how to use their abilities without the strictness of prequel Jedi used, and that's exactly what the EU Luke went with. In the end, it came down to the same thing. Those who are going to lose it...will lose it. :p

Brand X wrote:

Project_Hero wrote:

The Jedi seperate children from the parents. The parents could be moved to the Jedi temples, they are not. Or a Jedi Master could stay with the family till the child comes to a certain age, they do not.

Just because there are worse things in the galaxy doesn't make the Jedi better.

Where is that stated in the movies?

At any rate the Jedi aren't allowed to love, which is dumb. They're taught to suppress their emotions so much so that when something happens to make them emotional they aren't prepared to handle it.

Weird. Notice how when you say that, most of the Jedi go on handle all that. Don't lose it.

Anakin lost it.

Mind you, I agree that a force user should maybe be taught how to use their abilities without the strictness of prequel Jedi used, and that's exactly what the EU Luke went with. In the end, it came down to the same thing. Those who are going to lose it...will lose it. :p

Anakin was raised in a place where emotions were bad. He had no experience in how to deal with his emotions other than suppressing them. So when something finally pushed him far enough he broke.

How much easier would his life had been if he and Padme could be open about their relationship? He wouldn't have the stress of trying to hide it, the anger that he felt towards the Jedi for treating love as "some amoral thing", etc.

With Anakin the Jedi made their bed. Then he killed them all for it. The Jedi made Darth Vader, and likely many dark siders before him. And when one of theirs falls their only solution is to kill the monsters they made.

Cinnder wrote:

I'm guessing Tannim has turned off email notifications on this thread by now, and who could blame him?

Inorite? :D

The Jedi are taught to not give in to possessiveness, passion, and obsession. Romantic attachments usually involve one or all of those. They do have feelings but they try to keep them from going out of control. The Sith are the opposite and encourage people to embrace and succumb to those feelings and draw power from them.

It’s like being on a diet. The Jedi want you to eat in moderation, avoid too much fat and sugar and eat healthier things. The Sith want you to gorge on whatever you want, give in to your appetites, and enjoy yourself. (Remember they have cookies!)

That’s why Yoda told Luke that the Dark Side is seductive, and while it’s not stronger than the Light, it’s easier. But just like eating unhealthy leads you to being unfit, embracing the way of the Sith leads you to ruin eventually, although at first it is much more enjoyable to just let go of your inhibitions and embrace your power.

Am I the only one who never really got into Star Wars? lol

Brainbot wrote:

Project_Hero wrote:

And on to the emotions, the first line in the mantra of the Jedi code is "There is no emotion, there is peace." The Jedi code specifically restricts emotions, they cloud judgement. A perfect Jedi is an Unfeeling Jedi.

Edit: also on the subject of Jedi Younglings wookiepedia has this to say "The Jedi Order recruited its members shortly after birth...After their sensitivity to the Force was confirmed, the infants were brought to the Jedi Temple on Coruscant " Which is still cannon. So yeah. The Jedi take babies. Sure it might be with parental consent, but given the status of the Jedi and what they supposedly stand for they're probably pressured into letting this happen.

Edit 2: so more than likely most Jedi don't even -know- who their parents were. So they probably don't pop in to visit all that often.

Wookiepedia? I was talking about what the movies and shows portray, if you want to argue expanded universe I'm out.

It's canon, wookiepedia are usually really good at labeling things that are dubious. But also There's a couple of clone wars episodes dealing with children too.

Which wookiepedia sites as the sources for the bits I quoted, also a bit from Episode 2. No EU here. All movies and shows.

"When a youngling is located, they are brought to the Jedi Temple and learn quickly that their true family is now the Jedi Order." Except from the opening to the Clone Wars Episode The Gathering, sounds pretty cult like.

The Jedi are awful.

I just told you that the parts I stated came from the Clone Wars Cartoon and Episode 2: Attack of the Clones. So there's no EU there.

Specifically the episode where Cad Bane poses as a Jedi to go take infants that the Jedi have already laid claim to.

So, there's no EU or anything there.

So from that and from the Younglings depiction in attack of the Clones we know that at some point between being an infant and a preschooler children are taken by the Jedi. Then they are raised in a cult like environment until they "learn quickly that their true family is now the Jedi Order."

There is no way anyone can look at this and think it is ok. The Jedi order isn't like a school, it's a cult. A weird, creepy, emotionless cult. Where literal children get trained to be warriors so they can be the jack booted thugs of the Republic.

Remember in episode two where Anakin like, tells a bar "Back to your drinks, this is Jedi business" or some such? And remember how Obiwan doesn't scold him for that, or say that's not how they do things? It's because that is exactly how they do things.

Remember in Phantom Menace when they send two Jedi to "negotiate" with the trade federation? Remember how upon hearing the vaguest notion that they were Jedi they practically crapped themselves then called their shadey boss for help in how to handle that?

Yeah, Jedi are freeking scary. People are afraid of them. Because they're essentially government agents with super powers and laser swords.

The Jedi order as it's presented in both the prequels and in the Clone Wars show is terrifying.

It's a huge order of zealous warriors who are loyal to a huge corrupt government.

Edit: Oh and remember in episode 3 when big Poppa Palpatine was like "the Jedi tried to kill me and take over" how like, only a very small amount of the Senate was like "that doesn't seem right"? That's because to the Senate, and probably the galaxy at large, that seems exactly like something these weirdo cultists would do. Like, they all got freaking killed and practically no one cared.

Cobalt Azurean wrote:

Wolfgang8565 wrote:

Am I the only one who never really got into Star Wars? lol

I played SWTOR, read the original Jedi Academy by Kevin J. Anderson and the Bounty Hunter Wars books with Boba Fett by K.W. Jeter, and even played a fairly great tabletop campaign as criminals. But I never really got into the lore, especially now that DIsney is involved and scrapping all the previous material in an effort for more merchandising, you know, where the real money from the movies are made.
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How does getting rid of semi-official material allow them to have more merchandising, exactly?

If anything -keeping- all the EU stuff would allow them to have even more merchandising without having to create anything new.

Brainbot wrote:

Project_Hero wrote:

I just told you that the parts I stated came from the Clone Wars Cartoon and Episode 2: Attack of the Clones. So there's no EU there.

And I said I'm out.
I don't want to have to fact check a fan-made database just to have a discussion. It's the same reason I won't discuss topics with someone who uses wikipedia as their source of information. It's far too easy to get incomplete, misleading or just plain wrong information from them.

Then go watch the specific episode(s) and then the movie?

I mean you wanted facts so I brought them. All I'm hearing from you is "I won't attempt to refute what you brought forth so then I won't have to change how I think."

Like, me just stating opinions at you wouldn't get us anywhere, so I brought evidence to back up my side of this debate.

Also if you're done you could just, I dunno... Stop responding? Rather than coming back to restate that you're done?

Or do you just want to get the last word in?

Ah, doing that again, huh?

You've done this a few times now.

Project_Hero wrote:

Brand X wrote:

Project_Hero wrote:

The Jedi seperate children from the parents. The parents could be moved to the Jedi temples, they are not. Or a Jedi Master could stay with the family till the child comes to a certain age, they do not.

Just because there are worse things in the galaxy doesn't make the Jedi better.

Where is that stated in the movies?

At any rate the Jedi aren't allowed to love, which is dumb. They're taught to suppress their emotions so much so that when something happens to make them emotional they aren't prepared to handle it.

Weird. Notice how when you say that, most of the Jedi go on handle all that. Don't lose it.

Anakin lost it.

Mind you, I agree that a force user should maybe be taught how to use their abilities without the strictness of prequel Jedi used, and that's exactly what the EU Luke went with. In the end, it came down to the same thing. Those who are going to lose it...will lose it. :p

Anakin was raised in a place where emotions were bad. He had no experience in how to deal with his emotions other than suppressing them. So when something finally pushed him far enough he broke.

How much easier would his life had been if he and Padme could be open about their relationship? He wouldn't have the stress of trying to hide it, the anger that he felt towards the Jedi for treating love as "some amoral thing", etc.

With Anakin the Jedi made their bed. Then he killed them all for it. The Jedi made Darth Vader, and likely many dark siders before him. And when one of theirs falls their only solution is to kill the monsters they made.

He had experience with what to do with his emotions, because he wasn't raised Jedi until much to late and it's what he wanted and what his mom wanted for him. Notice she could have said no to Qui-Gon and never did.

Same with all those other kids. They were never stolen.

As for Anakin, he could've always left the Jedi Order. There was no rule saying "You must stay in the order." Jedi had left the order before. Anakin makes a big show of himself leaving. :p He wanted to be a Jedi Master. They didn't think he was ready. Which, hey, he was in his early 20's, so they weren't far off, being able to say "Not ready."

Which he obviously wasn't. Should Jedi have changed the rule of relationships? Possibly. It was already known there had been married Jedi.

Also there's always the petitioning of rules to change. :p Luke changed the rules for the Jedi in the EU. No idea about the new movies, but it seems they still allowed family (like Luke would've told Han or Leia "No, you can't see your child." :p)

Brand X wrote:

Project_Hero wrote:

Brand X wrote:

Project_Hero wrote:

The Jedi seperate children from the parents. The parents could be moved to the Jedi temples, they are not. Or a Jedi Master could stay with the family till the child comes to a certain age, they do not.

Just because there are worse things in the galaxy doesn't make the Jedi better.

Where is that stated in the movies?

At any rate the Jedi aren't allowed to love, which is dumb. They're taught to suppress their emotions so much so that when something happens to make them emotional they aren't prepared to handle it.

Weird. Notice how when you say that, most of the Jedi go on handle all that. Don't lose it.

Anakin lost it.

Mind you, I agree that a force user should maybe be taught how to use their abilities without the strictness of prequel Jedi used, and that's exactly what the EU Luke went with. In the end, it came down to the same thing. Those who are going to lose it...will lose it. :p

Anakin was raised in a place where emotions were bad. He had no experience in how to deal with his emotions other than suppressing them. So when something finally pushed him far enough he broke.

How much easier would his life had been if he and Padme could be open about their relationship? He wouldn't have the stress of trying to hide it, the anger that he felt towards the Jedi for treating love as "some amoral thing", etc.

With Anakin the Jedi made their bed. Then he killed them all for it. The Jedi made Darth Vader, and likely many dark siders before him. And when one of theirs falls their only solution is to kill the monsters they made.

He had experience with what to do with his emotions, because he wasn't raised Jedi until much to late and it's what he wanted and what his mom wanted for him. Notice she could have said no to Qui-Gon and never did.

Same with all those other kids. They were never stolen.

As for Anakin, he could've always left the Jedi Order. There was no rule saying "You must stay in the order." Jedi had left the order before. Anakin makes a big show of himself leaving. :p He wanted to be a Jedi Master. They didn't think he was ready. Which, hey, he was in his early 20's, so they weren't far off, being able to say "Not ready."

Which he obviously wasn't. Should Jedi have changed the rule of relationships? Possibly. It was already known there had been married Jedi.

Also there's always the petitioning of rules to change. :p Luke changed the rules for the Jedi in the EU. No idea about the new movies, but it seems they still allowed family (like Luke would've told Han or Leia "No, you can't see your child." :p)

Ah yes, his mom could have let Anakin stay in slavery with a bomb in him. Considering that was the alternative what mother would want their kid to be in that environment?

I never said stolen. I said taken. Children are taken by the Jedi order somewhere between infancy and preschool age.

No there's no "rule" against leaving but the Jedi from a young age are taught that leaving the order would be bad. So while no rule says they have to stay they are pressured into remaining in the order. There's no rule or law that says abuse victims need to stay with their abusers either and yet many still do. Same kind of deal, they're afraid to leave because the Order is usually all they have known.

Anakin could have left the order. But didn't. He had grown disillusioned with the Jedi yet stayed. The order frustrated him yet he remained. Anakin never really saw leaving the order as much of a choice or he would have done it.

Luke wasn't an order trained Jedi. So he likely did things differently.

Halae wrote:

Alright, the fact that this thread has devolved into a debate about Star Wars for some reason shows that this whole situation is not only far to laden with drama for a tech update discussion thread, but also that it's just straight up off-topic. If you guys want to continue going at this (and for the record, Brainbot evidently doesn't so, it'd behoove you, PH, to follow suit) the thread is eventually going to be locked or people banned from it. Nobody wants this, so please stop and either take it to PMs or create a thread where you can discuss your grievances with each other like adults.

Last time I tried to take an argument like this into PMs (Huh. It was about Star Wars too, actually) the other person kept it in the thread.

I'd be perfectly willing to take this discussion into PMs for anyone who wishes to continue.

Mordheim13 wrote:

That assumes an ABILITY for someone to "discuss... like adults." Big assumption. :)

Please don't snipe like that. It's a good way to get people to respond in an offended manner. And it's STILL off topic.

Ah, the good ol' pre-emptive self defense.

Mordheim13 wrote:

Project_Hero wrote:

Ah, the good ol' pre-emptive self defense.

Nothing pre-emptive about it.

Right, just an unwanted, unnecessary, shot at people which you claimed to be in self defense.

Fireheart wrote:

I dunno, the thread might be about Jedi Masteries?

Be Well!
Fireheart

LOL! You, Sir, win all the things! :D

So yeah.... Masteries seem really cool, right?

In all seriousness, This update just continues to increase my hype for this game. I cannot wait to get my hands on this and start trying out various masteries with my characters.

Halae wrote:

Alright, the fact that this thread has devolved into a debate about Star Wars for some reason shows that this whole situation is not only far to laden with drama for a tech update discussion thread, but also that it's just straight up off-topic. If you guys want to continue going at this (and for the record, Brainbot evidently doesn't so, it'd behoove you, PH, to follow suit) the thread is eventually going to be locked or people banned from it. Nobody wants this, so please stop and either take it to PMs or create a thread where you can discuss your grievances with each other like adults.

As the great Flesh Forge once aptly noted:

Quote:

Lothic's chronic terrible behavior had nothing to do with that.

Apparently I'm -not- the root of all evil in this forum... Go figure... ;)

As to the original topic of this thread it's already had 250+ posts - maybe it's run its course. Not every thread can stay on topic and/or remain relevant forever.

Atama wrote:

Lothic that flamefest just wasn’t the same without you. :(

Yes, despite the best efforts of... some... it was missing that certain quintessential element that so embodies Maleficent. :D How have you been, Lothic?

Look forward to it. Even when your posts are bashing me, they're always interesting, unlike some. I always feel like I'm being insulted by someone older than 12, at least. :D

For what it's worth, I have a friend like yourself who is capable of picking apart what is wrong with a story or a game mechanic and I will be depending on him as one of my game testers for that very reason. :) Your comments are meant to help.

Just so. If ANY two people agree 100% on everything, all the time, at least 1 of them is not thinking. Indeed, neither are, for neither's POV is being challenged.

Lothic wrote:

Mordheim13 wrote:

Just so. If ANY two people agree 100% on everything, all the time, at least 1 of them is not thinking. Indeed, neither are, for neither's POV is being challenged.

[img=400x400]https://pics.me.me/f-some-people-see-things-that-are-and-ask-why-27131489.png[/img]

LOL! How true...