The Fighting Canadian wrote:

desviper wrote:

If we're going for Pathos, I'm hoping to bond with dad on this game like we did in CoH, especially since I just moved to Canada.

Wait, what?

Dad and i played CoH, i'm hoping we can play CoT as well, especially since i moved 8 hours away to another nation.

I've been digging around the web and there seems to be no new info, the latest I read indicated a late 2018 launch. It would be nice if the devs actually said something.

I can't make any official promises but I'm personally trying to get things going for a 2018 launch. I wish I could do/say more but that's the limit of what I can do right now. I'm starting to get help with my major coding project right now (I hope!) and that might expedite things.

Eternal Avenger wrote:

I think the developers have mistaken a few people posting on this forum for wider market enthusiasm, they need to get the news out.

We just treat each topic as equally important. We are focused on being as responsive as we can. Many of the people posting here are our backers so we have to be attentive - they've paid for it!

End of 2018 is 'First Release', which consists of the Avatar Builder and a Chat zone. With a little luck, we'll have more. Later stage releases will add more. And it would hardly be wise to start a hype train until we had a shiny video to go with it.

Eternal Avenger wrote:

avelworldcreator wrote:

Eternal Avenger wrote:

I think the developers have mistaken a few people posting on this forum for wider market enthusiasm, they need to get the news out.

We just treat each topic as equally important. We are focused on being as responsive as we can. Many of the people posting here are our backers so we have to be attentive - they've paid for it!

So not telling anyone anything and not publicizing your game is part of your strategy?

I seriously doubt there will be any problem with news getting out to the general MMO market about this game. Even now I regularly see articles about this game in places like [url=https://massivelyop.com/?s=City+of+Titans]Massively Overpowered[/url] and the like. Trust me, the moment the Rednames of this game announce anything serious (like official dates for the Second Chance or beta announcements) the news will spread around the web like wildfire.

Shadow Elusive wrote:

End of 2018 is 'First Release', which consists of the Avatar Builder and a Chat zone. With a little luck, we'll have more. Later stage releases will add more. And it would hardly be wise to start a hype train until we had a shiny video to go with it.

Sorry, Shadow Elusive, my hype train is already chugging at full speed! Especially with the auras update.

Seriously I can’t concentrate on any other games right now because my mind is squarely on CoT.

Dark Cleric wrote:

Shadow Elusive wrote:

End of 2018 is 'First Release', which consists of the Avatar Builder and a Chat zone. [b]With a little luck, we'll have more[/b]...

Now that will keep me up at night. So many possibilities on what 'more' could mean. How many rabbits feet do you need for that 'little luck' and where do I send them. There's a petting zoo right down the road...

Better rabbit's feet than frog legs :)

TitansCity wrote:

JWBullfrog wrote:

Dark Cleric wrote:

Now that will keep me up at night. So many possibilities on what 'more' could mean. How many rabbits feet do you need for that 'little luck' and where do I send them. There's a petting zoo right down the road...

Better rabbit's feet than frog legs :)

Yummy, frog legs with garlic and butter... :D

Eww, frogs legs! Disgusting!
[i]munches on Haggis[/i]

Doctor Tyche wrote:

Eww, frogs legs! Disgusting!
[i]munches on Haggis[/i]

You can get haggis out there in the Pacific Northwest? I thought it was banned by the FDA.

Now, a nice chicken breast stuffed with haggis in a creamy peppercorn sauce... Mmmm...

Shadow Elusive wrote:

End of 2018 is 'First Release', which consists of the Avatar Builder and a Chat zone. With a little luck, we'll have more. Later stage releases will add more. And it would hardly be wise to start a hype train until we had a shiny video to go with it.

Now that's a topic for another thread! and thanks for the info, SE.
what can you do in a chat zone?
1) test out available emotes
2) costume contests
3) talk the devs into running and modeling various villains...like a giant robot, a lowly Rook, a super villain for hire, or Dr Tyche himself!

Terwyn wrote:

Nate and I are both Scottish (co-incidentally, we're also cousins from about nine generations back, as the clan he hails from was both the ally and enemy of my own at various times).

Haggis was only banned from import by the FDA, though the description of its preparation *may be* banned under certain Geneva Conventions.... ;)

I assume you mean of Scottish heritage, and not that we are fellow citizens? It's a funny thing: no one here ever talks about clans unless they are tourists or historians.

And before you can even get to the preparation there's the hunting of the ever-so-elusive beast. ;-)

Cinnder wrote:

Terwyn wrote:

Nate and I are both Scottish (co-incidentally, we're also cousins from about nine generations back, as the clan he hails from was both the ally and enemy of my own at various times).

Haggis was only banned from import by the FDA, though the description of its preparation *may be* banned under certain Geneva Conventions.... ;)

I assume you mean of Scottish heritage, and not that we are fellow citizens? It's a funny thing: no one here ever talks about clans unless they are tourists or historians.

And thus we see why the logic construct known as "[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman]No true Scotsman[/url]" is named after the Scots. ;)

Terwyn wrote:

Haggis was only banned from import by the FDA, though the description of its preparation *may be* banned under certain Geneva Conventions.... ;)

Hold up....GENEVA CONVENTIONS?!

ivanhedgehog wrote:

JWBullfrog wrote:

Good, we seem to have gotten off the uncomfortable topic of eating parts of frogs.

but we didnt get off scot free.......

***headdesk*** ugh.

Oh, someone forgot that I'm primarily Scots-Irish too. :p

WraithTDK wrote:

Guys, guys, guys...can we all try to remember that asking for a progress report, asking "where are we?" and "are we still on track for this timeline" is not the same thing as complaining about waiting, or encouraging them to rush the product? "Well, a rushed game is bad" seems like an irrelevant, and to be frank, disrespectful thing to say. I'm curious, too. I want to know. I *am* getting impatient after waiting for nearly half a decade on this game I helped fund. Does that mean I want it rushed? No. Absolutely not. I'd rather wait another year for a game that lives up to its promise than to get it now. But I'd still like to *know.*

An entirely human thing to feel. It's part of why I popped up that crude video to give everyone a sense of where we are at. It's also why we try to keep up the weekly updates - it's also the reason we tried the Twitch streams for a while. The whole team, AFAIK, wants to [i]play[/i] this game we've been working on so long!

Thanks for not demanding us to trade quality over speed - we want to feel proud about what we've accomplished when we do release. We feel SOOO close, but you know how that goes! Giving the reply of "We'll be done when we are done" sounds like a crappy response but it's a truism of pretty much any major project. For us we will be done when, after testing by a select group, that the quality of what we have is sufficient for public release. At my end the software project I showed has been: Make code change or add feature, wait 20-30 minutes for it to run and check for problems in the results, fix what needs fixing, repeat. Dull, repetitive, important.

[img]http://www.miketoonstudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/good-fast-cheap.png[/img]

well since fast is out... we getting this dirt cheap right >_>

Small but somewhat related tangent, after looking at the CoT Facebook page, I just want to say sincerely THANK YOU to all MWM Devs. It's a good thing I don't have a personal Facebook account or I might have embarrassed myself counter rage-posting.

The amount of dull witted, mean spirited, blindly entitled posts there (like, just for one example, the lady who posted several times on one topic just to express how much she *doesn't* care any more) just has to make all of the volunteer work that you are all doing while simultaneously trying to live your lives--all so that we (who aren't actually doing the work) will have a great game to play--feel thankless.

Well, it's not thankless. Thank you. Thank you very, very much. It really means a lot to a lot of people.

PS- This post isn't meant against the OP or anyone posting here, I just needed to rant and the conversation here was closest to the topic--and thank goodness I wasn't rabid enough to consider starting a thread :P.

TheInternetJanitor wrote:

That diagram is talking about the cost of doing something, not how much it sells for. So yes, since the team is almost all volunteer, it is being made for cheap.

Certainly, not to mean "cheaply" ; )

I was looking forward to this game but sadly the APOCALYPSE (To reveal/revelation) has commenced, meaning the great TRIBULATION is upon us. Beta will be a non factor once this begins.

Aww. He only joined a month ago.
Bad timing.

Revelations. It is the literal translation of apocalypse.

cloganart wrote:

Lothic wrote:

Doctor Tyche wrote:

I'd literally heard of the bug an hour before I mentioned it here. And we all saw how quickly they nailed it.

This is the type of thing they mean when they say "most people really don't want to know how the sausage is made". ;)

Having worked in the sausage factory, [i] even I don't know how a sausage is made sometimes![/i]

I once had a job that involved pumping out the waste pits and grease traps of a sausage factory. Ewwww.
The chemicals involved are intended to penetrate meat and leave it with a delicious, smoky aroma.
Moose are made of meat.

For days afterwards, I smelled like a smoked ham. Had to be careful around wolves.

Foradain wrote:

Named for Lake Geneva, Wisconsin...

They were created by Mr. Geneva. Article 17 specifically deals with Turtles. - Matsushima Michiru, Fruit of Grisaia

JWBullfrog wrote:

Doctor Tyche wrote:

Foradain wrote:

Named for Lake Geneva, Wisconsin...

They were created by Mr. Geneva. Article 17 specifically deals with Turtles. - Matsushima Michiru, Fruit of Grisaia

I don't recall. Is Gamera covered under 17a or 17d?

D, duh! A covers Koopas

Catherine America wrote:

TheInternetJanitor wrote:

That diagram is talking about the cost of doing something, not how much it sells for. So yes, since the team is almost all volunteer, it is being made for cheap.

Certainly, not to mean "cheaply" ; )

City of Titan Villains! Dirty deeds...

Phararri wrote:

Seems like every-time I click on a thread, see the title of the topics here, to get taken to the final pages and it has nothing to do with the title. Gonna go on a limb and say an argument broke out?

I'd say that most topics just run out of steam naturally on their own. Almost no topic is -that- interesting to last forever. If anything an "argument" (even one that "derails" the thread) usually only serves to keep the typical thread alive longer than it might otherwise last.

Eventually someone mentions something that turns out to be more interesting than the original topic (i.e. people who wonder why threads often evolve away from their original topics). I don't really see a problem with it.