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Ranger name change?

Just a suggestion - but when I look at the "Ranger" name I think back to my D&D games or LotR and picture a wilderness guy with swords. ;^p.

Meh - it's worth a shot - the pets classification recently got a rename, so how about,

Projector
Sniper
Caster
Bombardier
Emitter
Striker

Man - it's actually difficult coming up with names for ranged combat classifications - at least not without them sounding silly like "Shooter", "Chucker, "Hurler" etc ha ha.

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Well...,

Well...,

- ...if you think about it, 'Rangers' were primarily a hybrid class mix of ranged and melee capabilities...the term seems rather fitting, plus if you consider the variations implied - from manipulation to support to simple blatant defense - what is a 'ranger' but one whose primary is, well...range? Don't let the primary AT name fool you - there's Hunters, Partisans and Gunners for those who want a more focused description of their capabilities. :)

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Personally, I don't mind the

Personally, I don't mind the title.

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I can live with Ranger.

I can live with Ranger.

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Shooter...

Shooter...

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Zapper! Or Artillery, I

Zapper! Or Artillery, I suppose.

I do agree that Ranger doesn't make sense, because the term refers to 'one who ranges' as in someone who wanders far and wide. It has nothing specifically to do with ranged combat.

(On a tangent, does anyone else think Commander would make more sense as the pets classification name, and the control classification should be something more generally appropriate to what it actually does. Binder? Trapper? Manipulator?)

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When I hear "ranger" I think

When I hear "ranger" I think of the Elven Rangers from Warcraft 2. Many other games (electronic or otherwise) associate ranger with, well, range so it seems to fit pretty well.

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When I look at "Projector" I

When I look at "Projector" I think transparency presentations pre-PowerPoint.
When I look at "Caster" I think of the wheels on the bottom of mobile furniture.

:-)

Seriously, though, I get your point. "Ranger" feels more fantasy that superhero to me also.

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Eh, if you look up the word

Eh, if you look up the word "ranger" on Wikipedia you already get well over 100 entries. Sure it's an overused word at this point but I figure I'd eventually be able to get used to its new use in this new game.

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I don't like nor dislike the

I don't like nor dislike the title, but in all honesty, I don't think we will be using it much outside of character creation. Thanks to the Specifications, when describing our characters in-game, we will most likely be referring to each other as Hunters, Partisans, or Gunners, since each of those will be capable of slightly different tasks and team contributions.


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How about Rangeder?

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Realize, we are two years out

Realize, we are two years out. The names were chosen mostly by a vote held over a year ago. We're using them for-now so we can maintain stability in development. Before release we'll likely go over them one more time.

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I like Gunner, but that would

I like Gunner, but that would kinda limit the overall view of the perceived powers to guns, as caster does the same for magic. I think Longshot would be a pretty good name for ranged weapons

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The potential problems with

The potential problems with Longshot are that this is the name of a Marvel character and that, given the colloquial meaning of the phrase, it implies something luck or fortune oriented.

If Ranger falls out of favor we can keep it simple and go with Pew-pew. :P

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Ya, don't want any lawsuits =

Ya, don't want any lawsuits =/ Hahaha I would love to make a mutation pew-pew!!

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On that matter, I neither get

On that matter, I neither get "Commander" for Controll nor "Engineer" for Pets/Support. Rather, Commander (to me) invokes leadership and sounds perfect for Pets/Support, also having the benefit of having a comsistent theme for the Master (all are leaders). For the Control Classifaction, here are some suggestions:
-Manipulator
-Suppressor
-Constrictor
-Oppressor
-Trapper (maybe replacement for Brigadier, who suffers the same problem as the Commander)

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Xnarl wrote:
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"Engineer" for Pets/Support

Try "Herder" instead, and don't get upset when the Aggro Magnets complain at you for stealing their shtick.


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Whoa whoa whoa. Ranger forum

Whoa whoa whoa. Ranger forum, guys and gals!

Instead of Ranger, what about:
-Marksman?
-Slinger?


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Winter wrote:
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Instead of Ranger, what about:

Hunter


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Marksman sounds good.

Marksman sounds good.

Just about everything I come up with seems to specify a style of ranged combat. Infantry, Soldier, Cannoneer, Fusileer, Gunslinger, etc etc.

The easiest blanket term I can come up with to describe the sort of playstyle aside from Marksman are the two that have already been used, Ranger, meaning attacking at range, or Blaster, which we can't use.

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Personally never worried

Personally never worried about the name of the ATs. It's not like my heroes in CoH called themselves Scrappers, Brutes, Tankers. That was merely a game mechanic name. It's not like Spider-Man went around saying "I'm a Scrapper lft" Or for those who don't think of Spidey as a Scrapper (he totally is), replace Spider-Man with Wolverine :p

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Annihilator?

Maybe "Annihilator" is a good fit.

I also liked Marksman, Hunter, Soldier & Striker.

"Obliterator" or "Devastator" May also fit the bill.

Or just call it what it really is "Glass Cannon"

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Rooster Gold wrote:
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Or just call it what it really is "Glass Cannon"

Let's hope that isn't the case, or it's failure already. :/

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"Glass Cannon" ... meet

"Glass Cannon" ... meet "Ballpeen Hammer" ...


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Brand X wrote:
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Rooster Gold wrote:
Or just call it what it really is "Glass Cannon"

Let's hope that isn't the case, or it's failure already. :/

I guess that means "Floor Inspector" is off the table too? :(

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Winter wrote:
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Whoa whoa whoa. Ranger forum, guys and gals!
Instead of Ranger, what about:
-Marksman?
-Slinger?

I like Marksman!!!

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Marksman?

Marksman?

Too sexist!

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And I was thinking, if people

And I was thinking, if people don't like Ranger, what about Ranged, Deadeye, Sharpshooter, Triggerman, Rifleman?

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Artillery. :)

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Kiyori Anoyui wrote:
Kiyori Anoyui wrote:

And I was thinking, if people don't like Ranger, what about Ranged, Deadeye, Sharpshooter, Triggerman, Rifleman?

Am I the only one who recognizes that most of these terms pertain to Gunnery and Firearms, as opposed to being more "generic" in the way that "Blaster" was?

"So you're an Archer?"
"No, I'm a Rifleman.
"But you don't have a gun.
"Correct."
"And you use a bow?"
"Yes."
"But you're not an archer?"
"Nope, I'm a rifleman."

See what I'm getting at?


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Redlynne wrote:
Redlynne wrote:

Kiyori Anoyui wrote:
And I was thinking, if people don't like Ranger, what about Ranged, Deadeye, Sharpshooter, Triggerman, Rifleman?

Am I the only one who recognizes that most of these terms pertain to Gunnery and Firearms, as opposed to being more "generic" in the way that "Blaster" was?
"So you're an Archer?"
"No, I'm a Rifleman.
"But you don't have a gun.
"Correct."
"And you use a bow?"
"Yes."
"But you're not an archer?"
"Nope, I'm a rifleman."
See what I'm getting at?

While I don't care for either of those names myself. The name of the AT should all be OOC anyways. Not something one would use IC.

I don't want to hear an NPC call me a "Blaster/Scrapper/Tanker" Like in CoH, maybe my Fire Armor/ Tanker wasn't really a tanker, but more like a scrapper but Fire Armor wasn't an option.

Name's of the ATs should never be uttered outside of the choose classification screen.

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ZM, then I would just want to

ZM, then I would just want to make a punny alt named "Lobb-ster" who uses pincers as cannons :P

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Chucker. Tosser.

Chucker.


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Chucker.
Tosser.

1st one so-so

2nd one. HELL NO... It would probably get renamed for the UK audience, because it implies that they masturbate (similar to w*&ker)

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*prays to dev gods for a

*prays to dev gods for a nameless system*

If anything, let the government have their own terminology for supers and abilities.. its a fun part of lore. "They call us capes" "Yeah well I heard she's a boot (MDPS)" "Looks like we have a shooter (RDPS)" "Oh No, it's a Sap! (controller)"

No matter what you call them people will still call themselves Tanks and Healers LOL. Ranger? Meh.. but I would find it hilarious if the in-game NPCs had just as much fun naming us as we are...

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JayBezz wrote:
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*prays to dev gods for a nameless system*
If anything, let the government have their own terminology for supers and abilities.. its a fun part of lore. "They call us capes" "Yeah well I heard she's a boot (MDPS)" "Looks like we have a shooter (RDPS)" "Oh No, it's a Sap! (controller)"
No matter what you call them people will still call themselves Tanks and Healers LOL. Ranger? Meh.. but I would find it hilarious if the in-game NPCs had just as much fun naming us as we are...

I just hope not to hear an NPC call us by our ATs. I hated when my Scrapper was called a scrapper. She was a crime fighter. Giving ATs names and then linking them to it...terrible and was an immersion breaker.

Was just as bad as an NPC telling me "You're level 15" We don't see Spider-Man being told what level he is.

Also just as bad as players (ICly btw...OOC no problem) saying "Level 50 +3 Scrapper looking for team"

I want to feel like I'm in a comic book, as close as a game can get to it. That means some things need to be left as OOC game mechanics (like wardrobe...no tailors...and no need for an IC auction house).

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Gangrel wrote:
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Airhead wrote:
Chucker.
Tosser.

1st one so-so

Perhaps it is worse than "so-so". Australia's prime minister in 2004 was chastised by the head of the International Cricket Council for saying "chucker", and then in 2010 he was blocked by some cricketing nations from getting the top ICC job. If he'd called someone a 'Tosser' he might well be ICC president.

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I like "Pew Pew"

Me too!

I may already have mentioned this once or twice.

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On the subject of named ATs

On the subject of named ATs and how that affects the game: The devs have already established that the "name" of our "archetype" is largely going to hinge on our secondary powers (specifications). No one is going to be advertising themselves as, nor searching for, a "Ranger Hunter." We will just be saying, "level 20 Hunter, lft" or "Any Partisans out there looking for a team?" (Guardians will simply be referred to as Sentinels, Vindicators, or Wardens, and so on.)

As long as that continues to be the case, the names of the Classifications could be done away with entirely, leaving just Primary Power Categories (Ranged Damage, Melee Damage, Support, Control, Defense, and Pets) similar to the iteration of the Character Creator that was live when CoX was shut down. Not as fancy, but certainly cleaner and more user-friendly, especially toward new/inexperienced players.


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Winter wrote:
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On the subject of named ATs and how that affects the game: The devs have already established that the "name" of our "archetype" is largely going to hinge on our secondary powers (specifications). No one is going to be advertising themselves as, nor searching for, a "Ranger Hunter." We will just be saying, "level 20 Hunter, lft" or "Any Partisans out there looking for a team?" (Guardians will simply be referred to as Sentinels, Vindicators, or Wardens, and so on.)
As long as that continues to be the case, the names of the Classifications could be done away with entirely, leaving just Primary Power Categories (Ranged Damage, Melee Damage, Support, Control, Defense, and Pets) similar to the iteration of the Character Creator that was live when CoX was shut down. Not as fancy, but certainly cleaner and more user-friendly, especially toward new/inexperienced players.

I'd actually prefer them to name the ATs something so simple, but the general audience may not.

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As someone who's himself

As someone who's himself gotten credit for the burning poop that was Champions Online Telepathy "mini-set" I simply don't see the value in naming anything in this virtual world.

You have a "acid looking burn melee attack" that doesn't mean I want it to be called "Acid Punch".. especially when the attack could be animated as a kick.

I hope when we gain abilities and techniques they just montage us learning a new power and let the powers chart define them by animation and damage type.

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JayBezz wrote:
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You have a "acid looking burn melee attack" that doesn't mean I want it to be called "Acid Punch".. especially when the attack could be animated as a kick.
I hope when we gain abilities and techniques they just montage us learning a new power and let the powers chart define them by animation and damage type.
No Capes! .. Wait.. I mean No Names!

Or let us assign names to them for that character. :) Probably too pointless a cosmetic feature to be worth the storage and dev time, but it would be amusing to folks.

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If 'tossers' is too double entendre, then how about Throwjobs?*

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Leave it to the mod to draw

Leave it to the mod to draw the line with his own comment!

That said... well played.

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Ah, my point is you can go as

Ah, my point is you can go as far as that line. Just don't go over it. IOW, make your double entendre non-obvious so that a pre-teen is likely *not* to get it. wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

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Access to the more extreme

Access to the more extreme powersets should be gated by microtransactions.

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We can go with a part of ZM's

We can go with a part of ZM's earlier suggestion and add "'teers" to anything that's ranged.

Musketeers.
Rifleteers.
Missileteers.
Flying Monkey Punchteers.

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how about ranged attacker

how about ranged attacker

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Sir, I believe you mean

Sir, I believe you mean ranged attacketeer.

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sure that works also

sure that works also

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On the subject of named ATs and how that affects the game: The devs have already established that the "name" of our "archetype" is largely going to hinge on our secondary powers (specifications). No one is going to be advertising themselves as, nor searching for, a "Ranger Hunter." We will just be saying, "level 20 Hunter, lft" or "Any Partisans out there looking for a team?" (Guardians will simply be referred to as Sentinels, Vindicators, or Wardens, and so on.)

I hope this is not the case. We should be defined by our primary sets. Not by our secondaries. I don't want to ever see a situation where someone goes "GLF hunter, partisans not welcome!"

Currently I can't even remember which subclass goes where. How many we have in total anyway? 18?

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"[AT] {level} lft" is handy

"[AT] {level} lft" is handy because when you're making a team and you have 5 scrappers, you're looking for a tank and a healer.
People saying "Spiderman clone, not telling you what level I am because Spidey never says what level he is" is not likely to get you on that team.

Plus how would you organise the build section of any forums?
Section 1 : "Spiderman clone section. Note, may include ranged, melee, superjump, superspeed, flying, hovering, scrapper and some pet classes. Not tanks or healers"
Section 2 : "Spiderman clone section. May include healer, tank, ranged, melee, superjump but not flying, hovering, speeding toons."

How far would you take this not telling you stuff.
"lft"
"what team?"
"not telling you, Spiderman never tells anyone what missions he is looking for"
"yeah you can't join my team then"

I don't see anything wrong with ranger. It makes sense. It's a bit too middle earth for me but I don't like any of the other suggestions.
Hunter? A bit woodland-ey. Warden? Sounds like Guardian. Dragoon? Sounds like dragon. Plus they should be mounted.

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Northie wrote:
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I hope this is not the case. We should be defined by our primary sets. Not by our secondaries. I don't want to ever see a situation where someone goes "GLF hunter, partisans not welcome!"
Currently I can't even remember which subclass goes where. How many we have in total anyway? 18?

That's just it: we have three different "archetypes" defined under the primary power set of "ranged offense" (the Ranged/Support Partisan, the Ranged/Armor Gunner, and the Ranged/Manipulation Hunter). There is no way to simply define our characters by primaries. It would be like trying to group "Blaster" and "Corruptor" under the same archetypical name: while they could both lay down ranged damage, and therefore both be categorized under "Ranged Damage," they did not play the same as each other and thus deserved their own titles. The new archetypes will be no different (it's impossible for a Ranged/Support character to play the same as a Ranged/Armor character). My suggestion is that rather try and put an archetype-like name (Ranger) on what is effectively just a category of primary powers (Ranged Damage), we should just call the group of archetypes "Ranged Damage." Then your character's archetype name becomes simply Hunter, Gunner, or Partisan, rather than having the word "Ranger" shoe-horned in somewhere.

While I appreciate your desire to avoid archetypical preference/discrimination, and agree with it, the likelihood of the devs creating a system completely devoid of it is highly improbable. There will be players who will "craft" their teams. The best the devs can do is design a game that, given the right difficulty settings and whatnot, can be traversed by a team full of one archetype or a team balanced across all archetypes. If someone has a team lacking in the "buff/debuff" department, they might prefer a Partisan over a Hunter or Gunner. There is certainly a better way to do it than "Hunters/Gunners not welcome!" but there is nothing wrong with trying to build a balanced team. Personally, I just hope there are slight variations in the numbers to keep it all fair. (i.e. similar to how the average Corruptor, while buffing the team and debuffing the enemy, could not quite put out the damage numbers that the average Blaster could)


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I completely agree with you

I completely agree with you on the Commander title for the "controller" archetype, like when I hear it I think of militia type leader guy and that's not the character i'm trying to create lol. I think Manipulator would make a perfect title!

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Kiyori Anoyui wrote:
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And I was thinking, if people don't like Ranger, what about Ranged, Deadeye, Sharpshooter, Triggerman, Rifleman?

Having the title be Ranged would make life really easy since you get the emphasis on ranged melee without it feeling too fairy tale with the "er" behind it.

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Brand X wrote:
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... It's not like Spider-Man went around saying "I'm a Scrapper lft" Or for those who don't think of Spidey as a Scrapper (he totally is), replace Spider-Man with Wolverine :p

I guess Spider-Man could have been a scrapper if his secondary was Super Reflexes, since he had the Spider sense and had an advantage in Evasion/Agility/etc... of DMG. ;D

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What about simply "shooter"?

What about simply "shooter"?

Any thing a ranger does will involve "shooting" something, whether it is with a gun, a mental blast, or a fireball.

If "shooter" is too specific, and precludes someone throwing hand-held weapons (knives, axes, grenades) there is also "launcher", which is about as generic as I can imagine.

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Here's a list of the names to

Here's a list of the names to replace "Ranger" so far listed, this will save newcomers the hassle of doing what I just did :p (I only kept the ones that seemed serious):
Annihilator
Artillery
Attacketeer
Bombardier
Boomer
Caster
Chucker
Deadeye
Devastator
Emitter
Gunner
Hunter
Launcher
Launcheteers
Lobber
Marksman
Missileteers
Musketeers
Obliterator
Pew Pew
Projector
Ranged
Rangeder
Rifleman
Rifleteers
Sharpshooter
Shooter
Slinger
Sniper
Striker
Triggerman
Tosser
Zapper

Organized into types (Please don't argue classification :p), here they are:
Group A: Gun or Military Related
Artillery
Bombardier
Boomer
Gunner
Marksman
Missileteers
Musketeers
Launcher
Launcheteers
Rifleman
Rifleteers
Sharpshooter
Shooter
Slinger
Sniper
Triggerman

Group B: Generic Blaster-Sounding
Caster
Chucker
Emitter
Hunter
Lobber
Projector
Striker
Tosser

Group C: High-Magnitude Destruction
Annihilator
Devastator
Obliterator

Group D: Other
Attacketeer
Deadeye
Pew Pew
Ranged
Rangeder
Zapper

Now that that's done, here's my opinion:
- I think Group A should be avoided because they connote that guns are the primary members, which in a superhero game is unlikely (Also, "Gunner" is the name of the Range/Defense Class/Spec).
-Group C names sound very awesome, and should be avoided for that reason, since the other Classes have comparatively weak names. They are also very vague.
-Each member of Group D has it's own issue: Attacketeer is cacophonous; Deadeye is okay, but has some Group A issues; Pew Pew...silly*; Ranged and Rangeder are uncreative, and are lame compared to other classes; and Zapper sounds specific to electricity.

*Maybe It wasn't serious, idk :p

This, of course, leads us to Group B, the generic blaster-sounding names. I like Hunter, but it's the name of a Spec. I like striker. While it's vague, its as cool as other classes and is generic enough, maybe it would be the name of a future Assault class. Caster is okay. Emitter has the reverse issues of Group A, and excludes weapon users. Projector less so, and is okay. Tosser, Chucker, and Lobber sound odd I think.

After consulting a thesaurus, I came across Ballista , which i like, but is vague and has some Group C issues. Burster I like; it fits into Group B well. Slugger is okay, but it could connote melee and Group A issues. Lancer is nice I think, though it could also mean melee.

So, here are my suggestions, in order of preference:

Striker, Lancer, Burster, Ballista, Caster

Here is a list of all suggestions including my own:
Annihilator
Artillery
Attacketeer
+Ballista
Bombardier
Boomer
+Burster
Caster
Chucker
Deadeye
Devastator
Emitter
Gunner
Hunter
+Lancer
Launcher
Launcheteers
Lobber
Marksman
Missileteers
Musketeers
Obliterator
Pew Pew
Projector
Ranged
Rangeder
Rifleman
Rifleteers
Sharpshooter
Shooter
Slinger
+Slugger
Sniper
Striker
Triggerman
Tosser
Zapper

Man It sucks that we can't just keep "blaster", it's perfect.

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On the off-topic note of the

On the off-topic note of the name of Commander, the controller analog, I have the same feelings: I feel it makes it sound way more like a MM than a controller.

I suggest Inhibitor and Equalizer

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I think you're missing an "r"

I think you're missing an "r" in "slinger". ^_^

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Thanks, and that makes a lot

Thanks, and that makes a lot more sense, the first poster spelled it that way and I guess I still managed to have missed a couple. The post has been edited.

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desviper wrote:
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-Each member of Group D has it's own issue: Attacketeer is cacophonous; Deadeye is okay, but has some Group A issues; Pew Pew...silly*; Ranged and Rangeder are uncreative, and are lame compared to other classes; and Zapper sounds specific to electricity.
*Maybe It wasn't serious, idk :p

Pew Pew is serious! This is serious business!

SRS BSNS! >:(

Although now I'm considering reserving Deadeye Pew Pew as a character name.

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Darth Fez wrote:
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desviper wrote:
-Each member of Group D has it's own issue: Attacketeer is cacophonous; Deadeye is okay, but has some Group A issues; Pew Pew...silly*; Ranged and Rangeder are uncreative, and are lame compared to other classes; and Zapper sounds specific to electricity.
*Maybe It wasn't serious, idk :p

Pew Pew is serious! This is serious business!
SRS BSNS! >:(
Although now I'm considering reserving Deadeye Pew Pew as a character name.

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First of all, nice work

First of all, nice work compiling the list desviper. Just wanted to say I appreciate it. That said, however...

I still think Ranger sounds cooler than all those options. Coolness aside, it's mnemonic enough to have little confusion as to what the class does.

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I figure it has been over six

I figure it has been over six months since I wrote the following, and it is still relevant, so it is okay to quote myself :P

Winter wrote:

On the subject of named ATs and how that affects the game: The devs have already established that the "name" of our "archetype" is largely going to hinge on our secondary powers (specifications). No one is going to be advertising themselves as, nor searching for, a "Ranger Hunter." We will just be saying, "level 20 Hunter, lft" or "Any Partisans out there looking for a team?" (Guardians will simply be referred to as Sentinels, Vindicators, or Wardens, and so on.)
As long as that continues to be the case, the names of the Classifications could be done away with entirely, leaving just Primary Power Categories (Ranged Damage, Melee Damage, Support, Control, Defense, and Pets) similar to the iteration of the Character Creator that was live when CoX was shut down. Not as fancy, but certainly cleaner and more user-friendly, especially toward new/inexperienced players.


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I'd assume we still have to

I'd assume we still have to see "Ranger", "Commander", "Master", and such on our character creation screens. Ik this isn't important, but I vote to change :p

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"Caster" is not a generic

"Caster" is not a generic blaster-type name. It's very specific to those with magic-based powers. It's an even more loaded name than "Ranger".

"Hunter" is practically synonymous with "Ranger" thanks to World of Warcraft.

"Lobber", "Chucker", and "Tosser" are all specific to people who throw weapons and don't fit with any blaster or shooter type, so shouldn't be considered generic either.

"Striker" has nothing about it that even implies ranged combat, and sounds more like a melee fighter type name.

Really, the only generic blaster-type name that seems legitimate is "Emitter" which is a synonym for "Projector". I was going to suggest it, but I thought it would be rejected since it sounds a bit awkward. I would support it as a replacement for "Ranger", however. It's probably my favorite option up there, honestly, it's pretty generic.

By the way, "Launcher" was my suggestion as a generic name because you can "launch" a fireball, or ray of cold, or anything else. It doesn't have to be related to military weaponry, though the name probably first brings to mind "rocket launcher" or "grenade launcher". The term literally means "something that sets something else in motion".

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Any qualms with "Lancer,

Any qualms with "Lancer, Burster, [and] Ballista"?

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Sooo.. defenders would have

Sooo.. defenders would have been considered Blasters too right?

I think everyone is Stuck on the RANGED aspect... and not so much on the DMG aspect, because Huge DMG would set this Classification apart from the rest, right!?!?

Why not come up with a few generic names that could define what it is to be a Huge DMG'ing classification? :)

ex:
- Annihilator
- Decimator
- Devastator, or the DesViper ;)
- etc...

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Don't all non-defenders and

Don't all non-defenders and non-controllers also be considered Decimators, Annihilators, Obliterators, and Eviscerators (not a bad name for enforcers btw)?

I hope ranged damage isn't fundamentally higher than melee damage.

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What about Masterblaster? :)

What about Masterblaster? :)

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desviper wrote:
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Don't all non-defenders and non-controllers also be considered Decimators, Annihilators, Obliterators, and Eviscerators (not a bad name for enforcers btw)?
I hope ranged damage isn't fundamentally higher than melee damage.

Of course not. Range is defense!

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desviper wrote:
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Don't all non-defenders and non-controllers also be considered Decimators, Annihilators, Obliterators, and Eviscerators (not a bad name for enforcers btw)?
I hope ranged damage isn't fundamentally higher than melee damage.

Of course not. Range is defense!

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Doctor Tyche wrote:
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*ducks the tomatoes lobbed in his direction*

Oh! Oh! New name suggestion!

"Critic."

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desviper wrote:
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Any qualms with "Lancer, Burster, [and] Ballista"?

Lancer has almost nothing to do with ranged combat.

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Doctor Tyche wrote:
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*ducks the tomatoes lobbed in his direction*

You heard it here first! Fruit & Vegetable Blast power set for ranged characters!!

I expect the top power will combine everything else into one giant attack called V8.

Spurn all ye kindle.

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You know, I still don't

You know, I still don't understand why we can't use the generic terms, Blaster, Controller, Defender, Scrapper, and Tank? They aren't Trademarked, are they?

Re-inventing the wheel is a waste of energy.

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If they are just ad 'inator'

If they are just add 'inator' to the end:
Tankinator
Blasterinator (Blastinator)
Controllerinator (Controlinator
Defenderinator (Defendinator)
Scrapperinator (Scrapinator)
Mastermindinator (Petinator)
Corruptorinator (Corruptinator)
Brutinator (Smashinator)

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Honestly though, why can't we

Honestly though, why can't we use the old names, maybe with a couple updates? NCsoft's lawyers would have a hard time claiming copyright on "blaster" (without LucasArts getting in on it), "tanker", "mastermind" (without Hasboro getting in on it), "dominator", and "scrapper".

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Winter wrote:
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As long as that continues to be the case, the names of the Classifications could be done away with entirely, leaving just Primary Power Categories (Ranged Damage, Melee Damage, Support, Control, Defense, and Pets) similar to the iteration of the Character Creator that was live when CoX was shut down. Not as fancy, but certainly cleaner and more user-friendly, especially toward new/inexperienced players.

Yes - this would streamline things quite a bit more - "Ranger" isn't really that great a descriptor if then someone as to follow up with "What kind of Ranger?". Best to go with the Specifications as the "class name."

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