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Doctor Tyche's Day

I keep getting the feeling that Doctor Tyche's day goes something like this while working on wrangling City of Titans ...


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I'm not sure what I just

I'm not sure what I just watched.

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I'm not sure what I just watched.

https://wiki.puella-magi.net/Homura_Akemi

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I'm not sure what I just watched.
https://wiki.puella-magi.net/Homura_Akemi

All I know is that the main part of the vid where she's randomly firing off the guns would make for a hilariously disturbing CoT emote. ;)

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As a firearm owner and aficionado, videos like this make me cringe. Such portrayals are both ignorant and irresponsible. I hope that such idiocy does not find its way into the game in an effort to be "humorous". I don't find it funny at all.

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As a firearm owner and aficionado, videos like this make me cringe. Such portrayals are both ignorant and irresponsible. I hope that such idiocy does not find its way into the game in an effort to be "humorous". I don't find it funny at all.

It's funny BECAUSE it's wrong. That's how most humor works...

Besides I wouldn't worry - my guess is that some Dev along the line would probably consider something like this to be too "politically incorrect" enough to nix it before it made it into the game.

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I'm with Greyhawk on this one

I'm with Greyhawk on this one, we don't need more triggle.

*duck*

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I'm with Greyhawk on this one, we don't need more triggle.
*duck*

I see what you did there. It made me giggle. ;)

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Greyhawk wrote:
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As a firearm owner and aficionado, videos like this make me cringe. Such portrayals are both ignorant and irresponsible. I hope that such idiocy does not find its way into the game in an effort to be "humorous". I don't find it funny at all.

I'm also a fan and supporter of responsible firearm ownership and usage, but I didn't find it remotely offensive. I didn't find it entertaining either, but I certainly wasn't bothered by it... other than it being just weird. Perhaps it was the outlandish portrayal of the animated characters that convinced me that it couldn't possibly be taken serious. But, then again, people are stupid and impressionable so maybe I should have cause to be worried.

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Greyhawk wrote:
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As a firearm owner and aficionado, videos like this make me cringe. Such portrayals are both ignorant and irresponsible. I hope that such idiocy does not find its way into the game in an effort to be "humorous". I don't find it funny at all.

Then get a better sense of humour... it's a 12 year old dancing with guns!!!

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As a firearm owner and aficionado, videos like this make me cringe. Such portrayals are both ignorant and irresponsible. I hope that such idiocy does not find its way into the game in an effort to be "humorous". I don't find it funny at all.

I would just love to see your face while reading a punisher comic book or a Deadpool comic book... like lighten up dude :]

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As a firearm owner and aficionado, videos like this make me cringe. Such portrayals are both ignorant and irresponsible. I hope that such idiocy does not find its way into the game in an effort to be "humorous". I don't find it funny at all.
I would just love to see your face while reading a punisher comic book or a Deadpool comic book... like lighten up dude :]

I don't read Deadpool or Punisher. My son dragged me protesting to the movie and I did not enjoy it.

Humor is supposed to be funny. Deadpool, the movie, was merely nauseating.

At one time I thought the worst movies in existence were the Dragonball animations, then Hollywood made a live action version, and then they made Deadpool.

I'm glad I'm old. With any luck, I'll be dead before this society completely self-destructs. But it's gonna be a close call.

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As a firearm owner and aficionado, videos like this make me cringe. Such portrayals are both ignorant and irresponsible. I hope that such idiocy does not find its way into the game in an effort to be "humorous". I don't find it funny at all.
Then get a better sense of humour... it's a 12 year old dancing with guns!!!

You clearly have never seen a gunshot exit wound. I hope you never do.

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As a firearm owner and aficionado, videos like this make me cringe. Such portrayals are both ignorant and irresponsible. I hope that such idiocy does not find its way into the game in an effort to be "humorous". I don't find it funny at all.
I would just love to see your face while reading a punisher comic book or a Deadpool comic book... like lighten up dude :]
I don't read Deadpool or Punisher. My son dragged me protesting to the movie and I did not enjoy it.
Humor is supposed to be funny. Deadpool, the movie, was merely nauseating.
At one time I thought the worst movies in existence were the Dragonball animations, then Hollywood made a live action version, and then they made Deadpool.
I'm glad I'm old. With any luck, I'll be dead before this society completely self-destructs. But it's gonna be a close call.

yeah well not everyone has the same sense of humour also? You do you... I'm going to start suggesting a lot of weird gun animations over on the suggestion board now... I'm in a gun based supers mood tonight...

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You clearly have never seen a gunshot exit wound. I hope you never do.

This is why I've never understood America's general fascination for gun violence in movies/TV. When someone like me innocently mentions I'd like to see a little "breast jiggle" in a game like this the people who don't "like" that suggestion will often say stuff like "I don't want to see suggestive/smutty stuff in my computer games" but then those same people will turn around and continue to play (and often let their kids play) the most violent, blood-splattering games ever made.

Sometimes I think the Europeans have it right - they don't think twice about things like "breast jiggle" but will actually ban some movies/games for being too violent.

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As a firearm owner and aficionado, videos like this make me cringe. Such portrayals are both ignorant and irresponsible. I hope that such idiocy does not find its way into the game in an effort to be "humorous". I don't find it funny at all.
Then get a better sense of humour... it's a 12 year old dancing with guns!!!
You clearly have never seen a gunshot exit wound. I hope you never do.

Also? You sound like a tumblrite complaining about how Disney's Moana is racist, only your complaining that a fantasy genre has fantasy related elements related to guns. Like seriously... this entire forum is based on a game based on a genre where it common to see people dual wielding miniguns from the hip and to run faster than the speed of sound without burning to death from friction burn and here you are screaming that "unrealistic gun animation in a genre made of impossible things is proof that everybody but me is stupid" like seriously what is your damage!!!

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I mean like what.... batman

I mean like what.... batman can dodge bullets like it's nothing and Katana can run into gunfire with no inch Kevlar on her person and only wielding a sword and survive mostly unscathed, both of these people having no powers by the way, and yet someone turns their gun on the side and you start screaming about how millennials are the densest people on the face of the earth? We aren't confusing this for a real thing we are experiencing fantasy

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^Hyperbole.

^Hyperbole.

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^Hyperbole.

No shame in hyperbolizing a hyperbolizer :]

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You know? Now that a back

You know? Now that a back away and look at it from afar... I think I know what happened here.... you know that feeling you get in the pit of your gut when you feel like you're being attacked? I think that's it... I think Grey here felt that... maybe it was triggered by something else and that video reminded him of it.... maybe that's it too... and he felt that feeling of condensed fear and anger down in his core.... and when I responded to him he felt like I was attacking him... and when he was saying stuff like "Have you ever seen an exit wound?" I'll admit... I felt attacked too... and when you feel like you're being attacked you feel like you have to attack back, it triggers that sense of either fight or flight in us all... so yeah.... Grey? I'm sorry I hyperbolized you... I don't care if you accept my apology because I'm doing it more for me than you... but just know that I'm sorry....

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Lothic wrote:
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This is why I've never understood America's general fascination for gun violence in movies/TV. When someone like me innocently mentions I'd like to see a little "breast jiggle" in a game like this the people who don't "like" that suggestion will often say stuff like "I don't want to see suggestive/smutty stuff in my computer games" but then those same people will turn around and continue to play (and often let their kids play) the most violent, blood-splattering games ever made.
Sometimes I think the Europeans have it right - they don't think twice about things like "breast jiggle" but will actually ban some movies/games for being too violent.

It may not happen often but yeah Europeans have the right of it here.

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As a firearm owner and aficionado, videos like this make me cringe. Such portrayals are both ignorant and irresponsible. I hope that such idiocy does not find its way into the game in an effort to be "humorous". I don't find it funny at all.

As a non firearm owner, who's gone shooting regularly before, but who's family members all are responsible gun owners, I can say, it was slightly giggle worthy. :p

There's a difference between real life responsible gun ownership and usage and fiction. One can only hope people are smart enough to know the difference. :)

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Greyhawk wrote:
As a firearm owner and aficionado, videos like this make me cringe. Such portrayals are both ignorant and irresponsible. I hope that such idiocy does not find its way into the game in an effort to be "humorous". I don't find it funny at all.
As a non firearm owner, who's gone shooting regularly before, but who's family members all are responsible gun owners, I can say, it was slightly giggle worthy. :p
There's a difference between real life responsible gun ownership and usage and fiction. One can only hope people are smart enough to know the difference. :)

If you ever find someone smart enough to know the difference between reality and fiction please let me know. After 56 years and a dozen countries I have yet to meet one.

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Greyhawk wrote:
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As a firearm owner and aficionado, videos like this make me cringe. Such portrayals are both ignorant and irresponsible. I hope that such idiocy does not find its way into the game in an effort to be "humorous". I don't find it funny at all.
As a non firearm owner, who's gone shooting regularly before, but who's family members all are responsible gun owners, I can say, it was slightly giggle worthy. :p
There's a difference between real life responsible gun ownership and usage and fiction. One can only hope people are smart enough to know the difference. :)
If you ever find someone smart enough to know the difference between reality and fiction please let me know. After 56 years and a dozen countries I have yet to meet one.

Wow... and here I thought I was too cynical about most things...

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I prefer this version...

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When did this 'Ievan Polkka' become A Thing?

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Greyhawk wrote:
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Brand X wrote:
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As a firearm owner and aficionado, videos like this make me cringe. Such portrayals are both ignorant and irresponsible. I hope that such idiocy does not find its way into the game in an effort to be "humorous". I don't find it funny at all.
As a non firearm owner, who's gone shooting regularly before, but who's family members all are responsible gun owners, I can say, it was slightly giggle worthy. :p
There's a difference between real life responsible gun ownership and usage and fiction. One can only hope people are smart enough to know the difference. :)
If you ever find someone smart enough to know the difference between reality and fiction please let me know. After 56 years and a dozen countries I have yet to meet one.

We are not confusing reality with fiction... everybody here knows that's not how guns work... liking fictional things isn't confusing fictional things with real things... do you understand?

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We are not confusing reality with fiction... everybody here knows that's not how guns work... liking fictional things isn't confusing fictional things with real things... do you understand?

As I implied before roughly 98.5% of all humor in the world works off the notion of -knowing- that the thing you are experiencing is WRONG and/or socially unacceptable. This is why I worry about people who appear to have no sense of humor - I can't easily tell if they actually know right from wrong.

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We are not confusing reality with fiction... everybody here knows that's not how guns work... liking fictional things isn't confusing fictional things with real things... do you understand?
As I implied before roughly 98.5% of all humor in the world works off the notion of -knowing- that the thing you are experiencing is WRONG and/or socially unacceptable. This is why I worry about people who appear to have no sense of humor - I can't easily tell if they actually know right from wrong.

Well I don't think it means that they don't know right from wrong.... I mean a person with no sense gets offended by a joke because they know it's wrong they just can't get their head around why the wrongness makes it a joke. It's not a matter of sociopathy, it's a matter of pride and anger, and well pride and anger are both very addictive emotions. Grey's not someone who lacks morality... he has a clear and defined morality... he's offended by a video because it doesn't show proper gun safety, he likes guns sure but he also clearly wants them to be handled safely so that nobody can get hurt by them... he's not a monster, we aren't dealing with a monster... we're dealing with someone who's just kind of being a jerk right now calling people idiots for liking fantastical elements in a fantastical genre and well just because he is that right now, this jerk doesn't mean he's going to be this jerk forever... he's not hurting people he's just annoying people...

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We are not confusing reality with fiction... everybody here knows that's not how guns work... liking fictional things isn't confusing fictional things with real things... do you understand?
As I implied before roughly 98.5% of all humor in the world works off the notion of -knowing- that the thing you are experiencing is WRONG and/or socially unacceptable. This is why I worry about people who appear to have no sense of humor - I can't easily tell if they actually know right from wrong.
Well I don't think it means that they don't know right from wrong.... I mean a person with no sense gets offended by a joke because they know it's wrong they just can't get their head around why the wrongness makes it a joke. It's not a matter of sociopathy, it's a matter of pride and anger, and well pride and anger are both very addictive emotions. Grey's not someone who lacks morality... he has a clear and defined morality... he's offended by a video because it doesn't show proper gun safety, he likes guns sure but he also clearly wants them to be handled safely so that nobody can get hurt by them... he's not a monster, we aren't dealing with a monster... we're dealing with someone who's just kind of being a jerk right now calling people idiots for liking fantastical elements in a fantastical genre and well just because he is that right now, this jerk doesn't mean he's going to be this jerk forever... he's not hurting people he's just annoying people...

If you ever find someone who lacks of a sense of humor and is "completely alright" otherwise please let me know. After 46 years and a dozen countries I have yet to meet one.

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We are not confusing reality with fiction... everybody here knows that's not how guns work... liking fictional things isn't confusing fictional things with real things... do you understand?
As I implied before roughly 98.5% of all humor in the world works off the notion of -knowing- that the thing you are experiencing is WRONG and/or socially unacceptable. This is why I worry about people who appear to have no sense of humor - I can't easily tell if they actually know right from wrong.
Well I don't think it means that they don't know right from wrong.... I mean a person with no sense gets offended by a joke because they know it's wrong they just can't get their head around why the wrongness makes it a joke. It's not a matter of sociopathy, it's a matter of pride and anger, and well pride and anger are both very addictive emotions. Grey's not someone who lacks morality... he has a clear and defined morality... he's offended by a video because it doesn't show proper gun safety, he likes guns sure but he also clearly wants them to be handled safely so that nobody can get hurt by them... he's not a monster, we aren't dealing with a monster... we're dealing with someone who's just kind of being a jerk right now calling people idiots for liking fantastical elements in a fantastical genre and well just because he is that right now, this jerk doesn't mean he's going to be this jerk forever... he's not hurting people he's just annoying people...
If you ever find someone who lacks of a sense of humor and is "completely alright" otherwise please let me know. After 46 years and a dozen countries I have yet to meet one.

Well for the record I didn't say completely alright I said, not a sociopath. There's a difference here, it's not all black and white.... I will admit Grey is being a piece of work here so he's not completely alright he's just not a monster. I do dislike him now but I do hope he grows a sense of humour and stops being such a stick in the mud but right now he's not hurting people... he's annoying them.... and he's not even doing it out of joy...

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People who are serious about guns are Completely serious about them. I am, perhaps, not serious enough, but I also object to depictions of too-casual handling of firearms. Perhaps it's because I have actually killed with one. Guns are used in sports and in practice, but the basic purpose of guns is to kill. I object to people being casual about death.

Fire a gun into the air and the bullet doesn't turn into butterflies, somewhere up there. It comes back down, with no lessening of force. People die from that.

So, I get the 'joke' of the cartoon girl drunkenly dancing with a gun, but I do not actually find it harmless or 'funny'. I see it as a provocation to some idiot having a 'hold my beer' incident, with catastrophic results.

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People who are serious about guns are Completely serious about them. I am, perhaps, not serious enough, but I also object to depictions of too-casual handling of firearms. Perhaps it's because I have actually killed with one. Guns are used in sports and in practice, but the basic purpose of guns is to kill. I object to people being casual about death.
Fire a gun into the air and the bullet doesn't turn into butterflies, somewhere up there. It comes back down, with no lessening of force. People die from that.
So, I get the 'joke' of the cartoon girl drunkenly dancing with a gun, but I do not actually find it harmless or 'funny'. I see it as a provocation to some idiot having a 'hold my beer' incident, with catastrophic results.
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And yet people who believe as you do have no problem playing "video games" like this one that'll be filled with "gun violence provocations".

I don't necessarily have anything against people like you or Greyhawk who choose to hold the view about "taking guns seriously enough not to be able to laugh at their misuse on any level" but I can't really abide the hypocrisy that you guys don't seem to "practice what you preach" and abstain from games like this completely. My guess is that if I had ever taken someone's life with a gun (either by accident, as self defense, as a criminal act or on purpose during time of war) that I'd seriously question if I'd ever play a game like this again. That's how seriously I take this issue. Think about it.

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People who are serious about guns are Completely serious about them. I am, perhaps, not serious enough, but I also object to depictions of too-casual handling of firearms. Perhaps it's because I have actually killed with one. Guns are used in sports and in practice, but the basic purpose of guns is to kill. I object to people being casual about death.
Fire a gun into the air and the bullet doesn't turn into butterflies, somewhere up there. It comes back down, with no lessening of force. People die from that.
So, I get the 'joke' of the cartoon girl drunkenly dancing with a gun, but I do not actually find it harmless or 'funny'. I see it as a provocation to some idiot having a 'hold my beer' incident, with catastrophic results.
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Alright so 2 things... One? Guns existed in CoX, wildly inappropriate usage of guns existed in CoX, and since you're here on a forum that plans to make something like CoX, you clearly liked CoX... and yet even though CoX had all these different animations you have failed to call the devs complete and utter monsters for making it so you can dance around with your pistols, and number 2 if a guy is actually so stupid that he would watch that video and go "Imma do this infront of my friends" than that guy shouldn't have a gun in the first place. Guns belong to responsible gun owners, not hicks who believe that guns are magic. It should be the fault of the person who gave that idiot the gun, and not the media that showed it... media doesn't cause violence sociopaths and idiots cause violence...

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And yet people who believe as you do have no problem playing "video games" like this one that'll be filled with "gun violence provocations".

Um, yes, I can play 'City of' because I recognize it as a game, but also because, if you didn't notice, the 'gun violence' was actually fairly controlled. People were shooting at other people with Intent, not just spewing bullets at random, with no concern for where they landed. And I got to be the Hero, who hunted those violent offenders and Stopped them.

Also, every one of MY characters who used a firearm, was professionally trained to use them, in a professional manner. I'm not seeing any hypocrisy in that.

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I hate guns irl but im ok

I hate guns irl but im ok with them in games. I don't usually choose them as my power choice because come on, there is magic and powers and stuff!

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Fireheart wrote:
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Lothic wrote:
And yet people who believe as you do have no problem playing "video games" like this one that'll be filled with "gun violence provocations".
Um, yes, I can play 'City of' because I recognize it as a game, but also because, if you didn't notice, the 'gun violence' was actually fairly controlled. People were shooting at other people with Intent, not just spewing bullets at random, with no concern for where they landed. And I got to be the Hero, who hunted those violent offenders and Stopped them.
Also, every one of MY characters who used a firearm, was professionally trained to use them, in a professional manner. I'm not seeing any hypocrisy in that.
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Yeah well the game also made it so you didn't have to be proffesionally trained to use the gun.... heck you could even play a villain who shot his guns wherever he pleased, that was an option for everyone. I even played a few.

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I only had one character that used guns but that was okay because he was a villain and he was a turtle.

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And yet people who believe as you do have no problem playing "video games" like this one that'll be filled with "gun violence provocations".
Um, yes, I can play 'City of' because I recognize it as a game, but also because, if you didn't notice, the 'gun violence' was actually fairly controlled. People were shooting at other people with Intent, not just spewing bullets at random, with no concern for where they landed. And I got to be the Hero, who hunted those violent offenders and Stopped them.
Also, every one of MY characters who used a firearm, was professionally trained to use them, in a professional manner. I'm not seeing any hypocrisy in that.
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People who are serious about guns are Completely serious about them.

This is a broad generalization and doesn't apply to everyone, such as myself. Please don't lump, even mistakenly so, all serious gun owners together. I am one of those owners, yet I wasn't nearly bothered by the content of the video to the extent as others, as previously stated here:

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I'm also a fan and supporter of responsible firearm ownership and usage, but I didn't find it remotely offensive. I didn't find it entertaining either, but I certainly wasn't bothered by it... other than it being just weird. Perhaps it was the outlandish portrayal of the animated characters that convinced me that it couldn't possibly be taken serious. But, then again, people are stupid and impressionable so maybe I should have cause to be worried.

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Well for the record I didn't say completely alright I said, not a sociopath. There's a difference here, it's not all black and white.... I will admit Grey is being a piece of work here so he's not completely alright he's just not a monster. I do dislike him now but I do hope he grows a sense of humour and stops being such a stick in the mud but right now he's not hurting people... he's annoying them.... and he's not even doing it out of joy...

Well, "notears", despite your forum handle you certainly do spend a lot of time crying over my posts...

If you cannot tell the difference between the video that began this thread and the way firearm-based powersets are used in games then I don't know if I can explain it to you. Perhaps it is a matter of age and experience. Perhaps it is upbringing. Perhaps it is education and training. But the two are completely unrelated and I cannot understand how anyone can lump them together. Nonetheless, I suppose I should try.

First is something called, "muzzle awareness". Anyone who handles a firearm learns to be habitually aware of where the firearm is pointing. Whether it is loaded or unloaded, being carried, being set on a shelf for display, or being inspected and cleaned, an experienced firearm user always knows exactly where the muzzle is pointing and habitually points it in a safe direction. In the video at the beginning of this thread the dancing girl clearly has zero concern for where the muzzle of her firearms are pointing. The problem isn't the girl in the video. The problem is the person who made the video thinking that it doesn't matter where a gun is pointed because "it's just a joke". That's how people die.

Secondly, countless other people will view this video and the experience will become part of who they are. If they ever have a firearm in their hands, their emotional response to this video is going to affect the degree to which they practice muzzle awareness, even if they don't realize it. Humor hits straight into our subconscious, that is what makes it such an effective teaching tool, and that is what makes videos like this one so very dangerous. It is the assumption of harmlessness that reduces vigilance and creates risk. Fortunately, most people who find such a video hilarious will never handle a firearm, but some of them will, and some of those will eventually wind up killing or injuring someone without ever realizing their lack of muzzle awareness resulted from seeing a silly video years and years before they ever picked up a firearm.

The human mind is extremely malleable and deeply layered. Sometimes we don't realize how the things we see or hear impact our future decisions, but everything does. The things we find humorous effect decisions we make when we're trying to impress people, trying to entertain people, or trying to comfort people.

It's all fun and games until somebody winds up dead. The problem is, at that point it's too late to stop and consider the consequences.

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Well for the record I didn't say completely alright I said, not a sociopath. There's a difference here, it's not all black and white.... I will admit Grey is being a piece of work here so he's not completely alright he's just not a monster. I do dislike him now but I do hope he grows a sense of humour and stops being such a stick in the mud but right now he's not hurting people... he's annoying them.... and he's not even doing it out of joy...
Well, "notears", despite your forum handle you certainly do spend a lot of time crying over my posts...
If you cannot tell the difference between the video that began this thread and the way firearm-based powersets are used in games then I don't know if I can explain it to you. Perhaps it is a matter of age and experience. Perhaps it is upbringing. Perhaps it is education and training. But the two are completely unrelated and I cannot understand how anyone can lump them together. Nonetheless, I suppose I should try.
First is something called, "muzzle awareness". Anyone who handles a firearm learns to be habitually aware of where the firearm is pointing. Whether it is loaded or unloaded, being carried, being set on a shelf for display, or being inspected and cleaned, an experienced firearm user always knows exactly where the muzzle is pointing and habitually points it in a safe direction. In the video at the beginning of this thread the dancing girl clearly has zero concern for where the muzzle of her firearms are pointing. The problem isn't the girl in the video. The problem is the person who made the video thinking that it doesn't matter where a gun is pointed because "it's just a joke". That's how people die.
Secondly, countless other people will view this video and the experience will become part of who they are. If they ever have a firearm in their hands, their emotional response to this video is going to affect the degree to which they practice muzzle awareness, even if they don't realize it. Humor hits straight into our subconscious, that is what makes it such an effective teaching tool, and that is what makes videos like this one so very dangerous. It is the assumption of harmlessness that reduces vigilance and creates risk. Fortunately, most people who find such a video hilarious will never handle a firearm, but some of them will, and some of those will eventually wind up killing or injuring someone without ever realizing their lack of muzzle awareness resulted from seeing a silly video years and years before they ever picked up a firearm.
The human mind is extremely malleable and deeply layered. Sometimes we don't realize how the things we see or hear impact our future decisions, but everything does. The things we find humorous effect decisions we make when we're trying to impress people, trying to entertain people, or trying to comfort people.
It's all fun and games until somebody winds up dead. The problem is, at that point it's too late to stop and consider the consequences.

Well I do know a little bit about Muzzle awareness... I mean I'm not a gun owner, but well my dad is, and one of the biggest codes he lives by is "Always treat a gun like it's loaded even when it isn't" I also know that guns tend to have a lot of kickback and have to be held a certain way, and I also know that if a child ever tried what happens in that video, that kid's wrist would snap, and she'd be deafened by the whole deal. When you want a kid to try shooting guns you have to let them in a certain environment with an adult that show them how the gun works... but well here's the thing.... guns belong to the people who know how to use them, who know how to keep fire arms out of the reach of people who really shouldn't have guns, and if there ever is a point where a gun winds up in someone's possession who really shouldn't have that gun then it is the fault of the person who unwisely made it so that person could get that gun, or the person who willingly gave that person that gun, not the media that showed it. Look I get it, I really do... I know gun owners, heck I'm related to one and well you're worried about someone getting hurt by improper gun usage. It's a noble thing to feel, but guns don't belong to people who would actually do this... guns belong to the people who can separate reality from fiction and can keep their guns away from people who can't....

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but some of them will, and some of those will eventually wind up killing or injuring someone without ever realizing their lack of muzzle awareness resulted from seeing a silly video years and years before they ever picked up a firearm.

Hyperbole. You cannot, in any way, guarantee that outcome will absolutely happen and say that the causation was a video they watched.

I don't mind someone emphasizing the importance of gun safety, but my goodness. Fear mongering is not the way to go about it.

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If you cannot tell the difference between the video that began this thread and the way firearm-based powersets are used in games then I don't know if I can explain it to you. Perhaps it is a matter of age and experience. Perhaps it is upbringing. Perhaps it is education and training. But the two are completely unrelated and I cannot understand how anyone can lump them together. Nonetheless, I suppose I should try.

Perhaps it's because I don't (quite) have your age, experience, upbringing, education and training but I'll never really understand people like you who profess to be stone-cold serious about gun safety yet will demean themselves to play video games full of "gun violence" of any kind. To me that seems too much like a vegan who sneaks bacon strips when he thinks no one is looking.

If you can self-delude yourself into rationalizing that a game like CoT is actually THAT much different/better than this silly little video you seem to upset about then you apparently have no problem completely undermining your own holier than thou position on this otherwise serious issue. Apply your righteous indignation against some real world cause (like the 30,000 people a year the US seems to have no problem slaughtering in support of an amendment on a piece of paper 200 years out-of-date) and stop fretting over little videos that are completely innocent and tame compared to almost everything else Hollywood/YouTube pumps out.

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It is the assumption of harmlessness that reduces vigilance and creates risk. Fortunately, most people who find such a video hilarious will never handle a firearm, but some of them will, and some of those will eventually wind up killing or injuring someone without ever realizing their lack of muzzle awareness resulted from seeing a silly video years and years before they ever picked up a firearm.

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The things we find humorous effect decisions we make when we're trying to impress people, trying to entertain people, or trying to comfort people.

I happen to think the video in question was hilarious and I've yet to accidentally kill/injure anyone with the thousands of rounds I've fired in my lifetime. Take your "reefer madness" over-reaction here and stuff it in your ear. Lighten up man... you'll have a stroke before CoT even launches with all the self-righteous tension you're spewing here.

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Hyperbole. You cannot, in any way, guarantee that outcome will absolutely happen and say that the causation was a video they watched.
I don't mind someone emphasizing the importance of gun safety, but my goodness. Fear mongering is not the way to go about it.

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I happen to think the video in question was hilarious and I've yet to accidentally kill/injure anyone with the thousands of rounds I've fired in my lifetime. Take your "reefer madness" over-reaction here and stuff it in your ear. Lighten up man... you'll have a stroke before CoT even launches with all the self-righteous tension you're spewing here.

"...wisdom is justified of her children."

http://www.winknews.com/2017/06/20/firearms-expert-several-to-blame-for-punta-gorda-shooting/

Yes, I can say it, and demonstrate it, even though it hasn't happened yet. It's a little trick called, "analysis". At least a couple times a year in the United States someone dies because a person holding a firearm forgets their training and reverts to habits they learned from television, movies, novels, comic books, etc. In another ten or twenty years, that list will be, "television, movies, novels, comic books, online videos, etc."

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Cobalt Azurean wrote:
Hyperbole. You cannot, in any way, guarantee that outcome will absolutely happen and say that the causation was a video they watched.
I don't mind someone emphasizing the importance of gun safety, but my goodness. Fear mongering is not the way to go about it.
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I happen to think the video in question was hilarious and I've yet to accidentally kill/injure anyone with the thousands of rounds I've fired in my lifetime. Take your "reefer madness" over-reaction here and stuff it in your ear. Lighten up man... you'll have a stroke before CoT even launches with all the self-righteous tension you're spewing here.
"...wisdom is justified of her children."
http://www.winknews.com/2017/06/20/firearms-expert-several-to-blame-for-punta-gorda-shooting/
Yes, I can say it, and demonstrate it, even though it hasn't happened yet. It's a little trick called, "analysis". At least a couple times a year in the United States someone dies because a person holding a firearm forgets their training and reverts to habits they learned from television, movies, novels, comic books, etc. In another ten or twenty years, that list will be, "television, movies, novels, comic books, online videos, etc."
Certain failures in the human mind are inevitable. This is one of them.

No, it's a little trick called 'being patronizing', and you nailed it. Must be one of those habits you picked up from television, movies, novels, comic books, etc.
At this juncture, there's no point on my part to even attempt to enter into intelligent discourse with someone who doesn't appear remotely interested in the possibility that they could be wrong. Finally, analysis is as only as good as the data, but not when it is clearly being bent through personal/observational bias, as seen here.
I think I'm done with this.

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Ok guys, the laughter has turned into anger, and nobody wants that. Let's move past this, ok?

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Ok guys, the laughter has turned into anger, and nobody wants that. Let's move past this, ok?

Alright fine.... The Lord has spoketh and I'll atleast try not argue anymore... happy?

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Lots of folks here are

Lots of folks here are calling me names for having an opinion dissenting from the majority. I'm used to it. However, in my own defense, here is a little video clip that showed up in my Facebook newsfeed a couple days ago. It is entirely unrealistic, horribly unsafe, and completely hilarious!

http://www.moviehotties.com/videos/movie-clips/hottie_holly_valance_dead_or_alive_doa_towel

Indulge me another "patronizing" moment while I attempt to explain the difference.

The video of the anime character dancing while firing off two handguns in random directions is targeted at teenagers. For all I know, it might have been made by a teenager. The person who made the video depicts firearms as mere props. There is no awareness nor understanding of the lethality of firearms. As close as the two characters in that video are, even if the handguns are loaded with blanks, there is a very high probability that either the dancing girl or her friend would be severely injured by a ricochet. The cardboard or wax plug in a blank can be lethal at such close ranges, even from a ricochet. The video is childish and stupid. I have never considered either of those qualities to be "funny".

In the video clip from the DOA movie there is never any doubt of the lethality of the firearms. In fact, lethality is exactly the point of the video clip. The intended audience are adults, mature people who understand the consequences of foolish choices. The scene is carefully choreographed and filmed in a manner that displays excellent muzzle awareness on behalf of the choreographer, even if that awareness is completely accidental. The humorous quality of the scene is created by the unexpected outcome and enhanced by the clear depiction of lethality. Is it realistic? No. Is it safe? No. Is it funny and entertaining? Yes. It is exactly the opposite of the anime clip.

Sooner or later some teenager is going to attempt to duplicate that dancing anime character. It is inevitable. It is what they do. Anyone who has raised teenagers knows and understands this. No one is ever going to attempt to duplicate the fight scene in the DOA clip, partly because the choreography itself emphasizes the potential lethality of the scene. No one is going to come into these forums and say, "Look at these cool moves! CoT has to have these fight animations!"

That is what makes the anime character dancing while firing handguns so dangerous. It creates a sense of harmless fun and that sense of harmless fun encourages mimicry in an audience that is naturally inclined to use mimicry as a way of developing their own personal values.

I cannot help but wonder, how many of you calling me a "stick in the mud" or something similar have raised children to adulthood? How many of you have seen firsthand a teenager experimenting with life by duplicating some scene from a popular anime? How many of you have seen the disastrous results of someone using a firearm in imitation of something they saw in a cartoon or movie?

I am a Patron member of the NRA. I am an avid firearms enthusiast with a pretty fair collection of handguns. When I am in the States, I practice about once a week. I am in favor of a global version of the Second Amendment. I want to see more non-law enforcement, non-military, everyday people all around the world carrying a firearm for self-defense. I also want to see far more scenes like the one in DOA and none like the video clip of an anime character firing off handguns with no sense of muzzle awareness.

If that makes me a grumpy old man that's perfectly fine by me.

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I think in general it is fair enough to say that people try so hard to be understood that they forget to try to understand others. @Greyhawk, your last post (#59) is well written and I think makes an excellent case for anyone who would attempt to understand you.

But to complete the circle, we must have two things:
First we need people to want to understand you.
Second, we need you to understand others' points of view. I think you have demonstrated that you understand them, but you disagree. No one could ask for more.

If others admit they understand you and still disagree, claiming that the anime video is still funny in their eyes and that you are still being a stick in the mud who takes himself too seriously, then this entire discussion is over. No one should expect other people to be anything other than who they are. Some jokes and stuations are funny to some people and not to others. We're all individual humans and to expect otherwise is quite fruitless.

I am reminded of sitcoms with friends, like Friends or Big Bang Theory, or That 70's show. There are people in those ensembles who would never be friends in real life because in real life we are far less forgiving and far less understanding of people who see things differently than we do. But I've always wondered what life would be like if we accepted people for who they were like in those shows, instead of trying to change them or prove them wrong.

I think a good example we could all follow is the jiggle thread. There were moments in that thread where it got nasty, but in the end it became somewhat of a comedy as everyone just accepted themselves for who they were and what they believed; that they were never going to change other people's minds. And I think the participants ended up with a bit more respect for each other as a result, and I think people were able to laugh at each other and themselves as well. I would hope that we all can still respect each other here, whether we agree or not. I think that respect is something we can bring to City of Titans when it launches. City of Heroes was known for its great community and still is remembered for it. Let's keep that spirit alive.


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