Gangrel wrote:

Radiac wrote:
One thing I'm personally happy about is that we wont have the gawdawful naming convention for items that GW2 has. In that game, if you want a thing that does what you want it to do, looks nice, and has something slotted into it to enhance it to the nines, you end up wearing something like "Berserker's Seer Coat of the Scholar" or something. So what's the deal? Am I a berserker, a seer, or a scholar? Every time I see the names of the items in that game I am reminded of the episode of Taxi where Jim buys an Italian restaurant named Mario's and ends up renaming it "Jim's Mario's"
If I remember correctly, their naming scheme actually gives you information about what buff's/bonuses the piece gives you. ie Berzerker is Power++, Precision+ Ferocity+ in terms of bonuses.
Actually its the same in most games to a degree.
"DNA Resequencing Confuse Boost", "Paraxial Modifier", "Cacophony Projector", "Li Tieh Kuai's Band", "Mask", "Awakening: Increased Confusion", "Perplexity of Hermes", "Dragon Flurry", "WetWare Eng Vocal Mimicer", "Theta Wave Bombardment", "Chain"
Now without going to Paragon Wiki (or using MIDS), can you tell me off the top of your head what these enhancements actually affected in City of Heroes...

I JUST put "Superior Rune of the Scholar" in 6 of my own armor items, and I don't remember exactly what that does even, except that it was the recommended thing to do, and others seemed to agree. I know I'm getting +100 power out of it, that's about all I can tell you without looking at it again.

And I personally don't mind if the names of the items don't give you any indication of what they do. I'm going to have to look at the items themselves to find out if I do or do not want them anyway, and I'm going to forget the naming convention, to a large extent, afterward anyway.

I would throw in the counter argument that you can't select your "junk" naming scheme from the marketplace because then you would get complaints about why did that giant frickin' robot drop a blood soaked curse scroll? Or an enchanted bone? I think the junk names need to match with the dropper to a degree. So robots drop STEM related junk and wizards drop mystical junk. Then you can have X number of types and color code those types. and then rank them 1-5 so you'd have 5 ranks of red junk and 5 ranks of blue junk and so on and so forth. To craft an item like a health refinement you'd need 3 pieces of green junk rank 1 and a piece of green junk rank 4 and a piece of blue junk rank 3.

Basically the system doesn't care about the name of the ingredient just the color and rank. Maybe a cash shop item could be a piece of rainbow junk that could stand in for any given color of junk. I am assuming that for high level items you'll still need something more than junk IE from junk you'd build a tier 2 item and from several tier 2 items you'd build a tier 3 item and from several tier 3 items a tier 4 until you reach tier X where you finally get the item you are trying to build. Otherwise being able to sub a cash shop item for any given junk could be considered pay to win. In this case having a origin based naming scheme for tier 2 items and above would make more sense.

harpospoke wrote:

Empyrean wrote:
Cobalt Azurean wrote:
Once up a time, G. Once upon a time. And I couldn't begin to tell you how many hours I put into playing Mids. So many builds, so little time.
I loved Mids. I made builds for my son and wife as well as myself (because neither of them would have messed with Mids and I couldn't stand them having sub-standard builds :P).
I probably spent almost half as much time between Mids and tweaking my costume as I actually played the game. And loved every minute of it.
Wasn't it awesome how many different ways you could enjoy the game?

Yes. Yes it was.

Gangrel wrote:

Yes, I cheated... but it just went to show *how* confusing it all was.

Ha, confusing and Confuse duration. I see what you did there.

Most games have several dozen different kinds of purple junk; especially when we are building custom heroes and villains. With customization comes great sources;
anyways if you don't have dozens of different builds for dozens of characters then you wont have to memories them.
you can usally in short order find a list and vhoose the ones that best meet your needs

Brainbot wrote:

I am still shocked by the fact that people are more concerned about what the game calls 'random widget 2043' than the crafting system itself.

"Concerned" might be a bit strong, at least for me, but we might as well make our thoughts known before anything is set in stone.

Anyway, this is nothing.
Check out the threads on breast physics and nipple bumps! :P

The other gods might not be any nicer tho...

Just don't put them in a library setting or out on a street corner :p

Radiac wrote:

[b]You may want to have a random outcome component to the crafting process, like when you make a thing by combining other things, you have a REALLY small chance of getting a Very Rare as a crafting result.[/b] Those Very Rares would then be highly sought after and expensive on the market. This would cause people with a bunch of common Augments to pay IGC to craft them and take a swing at a Very Rare instead of just selling them or if they do, the market for them might remain decent. That is, a chance at a random Very Rare result might create demand for the less Augments that go into that process.

Perhaps adding [i]Crafting[/i], as a subskill, that you can improve by crafting, and thus increasing the chance that your character has an epiphany moment, creating a Rare, or better enhancement, could be looked at in development? However, while I am a capitalist at heart, I am not a fan of a bloated auction market, with insanely bloated prices for crafted, or dropped items. What that an uncontrolled auction house does, is open the players up to the Gold Marketeers who use bots to grind away at resources players need for crafting. So make a price cap for items, to stop that, but then doing so takes away time for devs to create a fair and equitable market system.

Auction houses such as what are in WoW, LOTRO, STO, have made me a convert to RNGesus when hunting drops.

After reading the whole thread...

I'd prefer a crafting system that's quick and easy. Immediately after reading the thread title I had a thought similar to Brainbot's idea. Which I like. The idea of crafting materials just being augments and refinements (or however they're called) is elegant. The only thing I'd change is maybe not having 2 of the same add up to more than one, if you want more of a thing slot more of a thing. But that's just me.

I'm fine with crafting materials being named whatever. My mage using a circuit board to craft doesn't break my immersion when it's all being dropped into a bubbling magic cauldron. Spells need what spells need.

Something that bothers me in most games with crafting systems is that you can craft pretty good stuff. Random drops tend to be better. You work your buns off getting your crafting up all the way to max and the stuff you make is below end game dungeon gear, and just a bit stronger than close to end game mission rewards. Cool. Tons of time, tons of items, money, etc to get a +1 over stuff anyone gets. Whoopie.

So in regards to that I hope any craftables are at least on par with random drops their level.

If crafting has a minigame, if it's not fun I won't do it. It would be awesome to have a crafting phone app. Dump all your crafting components into a box, then log in with phone, choose what to make, and let me candy crush, match 3, or whatever my way to crafted things. It'll let me play the game when I'm not playing the game. If we could somehow connect the phone to the chat, or PMs, or whatever all the better.

This is probably not likely but hey, I can dream.

I can't wait to learn more about this game we are all eagerly awaiting.