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I really hope City Of Titan's doesn't have the mouse camera like dcuo. I played dcuo before its a fun game but on pc.... its crap. I really hope to god that the camera movement in cot is much different or better than dcuo. If anyone has another other suggestions or ideas on this i wanna hear them
~The Shadow's Are Coming~
I highly doubt they would go this route, it works for DCUO because of the twitch playstyle but not so much with CoTs intended game mechanics.
As a side note....I thought you could decouple the mouse look and just use the keyboard....been a while since I played DCUO so not sure.
What's the mouse camera like in DCUO and how does it compare to that in CoX?
Spurn all ye kindle.
Basically its tied to the mouse move the mouse to look system.. There is no way to check anything without opening a menu. When you open the menu you become frozen, its can be frustrating to use.
Yikes, I can see why!
Spurn all ye kindle.
Mouse movement = cursor movement (click on things)
Right-Click + Hold = rotate character *
Left-Click + Hold = rotate camera *
* Can be the other way around or can be controlled via Keybinds/options
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Oh dear gods no! Hate mouse-look! That's why I stopped playing DCUO, despite actually paying for it.
Technical Director
Read enough Facebook and you have to make Sanity Checks. I guess FB is the Great Old One of the interent these days... - Beamrider
Wait, I'm still not sure I get it. Isn't the following what we had in CoX?
I liked right-click-hold to look around with the mouse. Is that what folks (including Doc) are objecting to?
Sorry for being dense if I'm missing something here.
Spurn all ye kindle.
As I understand it, they are objecting to the camera being tied to mouse movement, which means that you look (and usually your character turns to) wherever you move/point your mouse. Clicking a button to look around provides the option to move in one direction while looking in another, or at a minimum the ability to move the mouse/pointer without suddenly running into the side of a building.
I presume that this means that DCUO has no third person view.
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Support [url=http://cityoftitans.com/comment/52149#comment-52149]trap clowns[/url] for CoT!
As far as camera control options go, I like what COX had and would expect that. Can we do that?
Also, I like 3rd person POV. I used it all the time.
R.S.O. of Phoenix Rising
No it did. My biggest issue with DCUO camera controls was it meant I had to know dozens of buttons to do anything other than fight. If I wanted to jump to my inventory I had to know that button, if I wanted to read more about the mission I was on I had to know that button ect. It wasn't so much that the camera was tied to the mouse it was more that with it tied to the mouse I had to use the keyboard more.....I like to relax hang back and play a game, I don't know the keys that well, so when I want to check anything I gotta hunt and peck till I find the key I want and go from there. I mean I could just use one key and then mouse to the tab but I just found the whole process frustrating.
I was wrong. Tera uses the mouse-look thing and does have third person view. It works, but then Tera has the whole 'action combat' thing going on. Moving in one direction while looking in other, however, is right out.
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Support [url=http://cityoftitans.com/comment/52149#comment-52149]trap clowns[/url] for CoT!
I know there are plenty of ways for this kind of thing to work and we all know CoT will not be an exact 100% clone of CoH in all respects. But is there any harm in hoping that CoT will simply provide the exact same mouse/camera options CoH did? Let's try to [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle]K.I.S.S.[/url] this game as much as we can.
CoH player from April 25, 2004 to November 30, 2012
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Agreed, much like insirations and the enhancement system (pre IO) CoX got the camera controls as close to perfect as I think you can get.
Oh, I think I get it. You couldn't use mouse to click stuff in the UI for anything other than combat? That sounds terrible.
Spurn all ye kindle.
Not quite true. You could... but it involved you having to unlock the mouse from mouse look.
But to be totally honest, TR was similar (although with its game style, it *did* make sense to do it that way).
I like the system that was mentioned earlier on, infact, I have used it in many other MMO's out there. Ironically, I saw someone on the Wildstar forums *asking* for this feature. And would you believe it, it was *already* in there. (They also have "Auto Center Camera" as an option. So when you are moving, it swings back behind you.)
(left click + Mouse = rotate camera around character,
Right click + Mouse = Rotate character)
DCUO's mouse camera is a complete non-issue if you use a USB controller like I do when I play it. The problem is that it was originally a PS3 game that got ported to PC so the controls suck on PC. We won't have that issue with CoT, especially since we're not even using an action combat system anyway.
Although saying that, I believe that they are going to be looking at ways to make the game playable with a game pad (and also as an extension from that... more accessible to disabled gamers).
Final Fantasy 14: ARR won the AbleGamers award for accessible MMO of 2013... and it had an interface *designed* to be playable with a game pad (if you chose it). It is also a more mobile combat system than CoX was (at least to me.. your mileage may vary with that opinion though).
[url=http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/01/28/ablegamers-names-final-fantasy-xiv-accessible-mainstream-game-of/]FF14 is AbleGamers mainstream game of the year[/url]
I've been studying a lot of FFXIV *cough* for various systems. They did a lot of things right.
Technical Director
Read enough Facebook and you have to make Sanity Checks. I guess FB is the Great Old One of the interent these days... - Beamrider
[img]http://www.at-p.org/images/mouse-photo.jpg[/img]
We did consider training digital mice to follow you in game with a camera, but, fine, whatever. We won't.
Awwwww.... he's so cuuuute....
R.S.O. of Phoenix Rising
I think that would be a really good mission for the hero path. Evil mice stalking townspeople and the hero having to find out more about it and putting a stop to it...
~The Shadow's Are Coming~
Maybe these camera-wielding mice could get jobs working for Car Fax. They seem to be employing all manner of brown furry rodents nowadays.
R.S.O. of Phoenix Rising
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The Carnival of Light in the Phoenix Rising
"We never lose our demons, we only learn to live above them." - The Ancient One
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I think he's cheesed off.
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Is Beamriders Avatar pic of tha Prof. from The Great Mouse Detective?:
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Is it even a rat(I mean mouse *-* runs and hides from Rattigan), kinda looks more like a mole
The Carnival of Light in the Phoenix Rising
"We never lose our demons, we only learn to live above them." - The Ancient One
Avatar by lilshironeko
I am resisting the urge to post nightmarish artwork of rats right now just to see how Kiyori might react.
The villainous side of me is coming out again....
Formerly known as Bleddyn
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WCqnt88Umk]Do you want to be a hero?[/url]
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It's Justin from "Secret of NIMH". Long story.
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*ssssshhhhhh* We don't want people to know the true Hero of Titan City is...Dangermouse.
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[i]Verbogeny is one of many pleasurettes afforded a creatific thinkerizer.[/i][/center]
Based on "Mrs Frisby and the Rats of NIMH" and/or sequels thereof?
Foradain, Mage of Phoenix Rising.
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Mrs. Frisby was the book they based the Secret movie on, yes.
Be Well!
Fireheart
@Beamrider, I was thinking secret of nimh!!! But Jenner was the toon that kept popping into my head. And Dangermouse, It's muh Dreeaammmugghhhh Muhcheeennnnnn lolol Hey, as long as the streets stay clean :D As anyone can cook, anyone can save the day!
The Carnival of Light in the Phoenix Rising
"We never lose our demons, we only learn to live above them." - The Ancient One
Avatar by lilshironeko
Walking in on this thread be like...
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[i]Has anyone seen my mind? It was right here...[/i]
More like of a spy camera when looking at it.