4 armed people? (because the coders don't hate me enough)

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4 armed people? (because the coders don't hate me enough)

....well?

i think it is impossible, as so many costumes would need to be updated, or listed as not available for 4 armed freaks.

however champions-online did so, but did not list it in the creator. each instance of use was also without any options, just skin.

perhaps there is a way to cheat a bit, and make them just add-ons? sort of like how a arachnos spider crab minon would have legs/arms coming out of it's back?

how badly do people want 4 armed people? how many spider people are out there? does it fit more themes? is it worth the time?

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Slapping on an additional

Slapping on an additional pair of arms, just for show, may work. It evidently did well enough for Goro. It all depends if those who want four arms favor or accept the normal body/frame with additional arms or prefer the 'mega-chest' version.

For a true four-armed character the costumes would be the least of the worries. Such a model would require its own skeleton and probably, in many cases, its own animations. Even the 'mega-chest' would likely require a new skeleton to avoid moving in very strange ways.

Perhaps a few years down the line MWM may deem it worth looking into.

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Heck why stop at 4. How

Heck why stop at 4. How about six, Spider-man did it as well as a few others. Not to mention a Goddess or so.

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RottenLuck wrote:
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Heck why stop at 4. How about six, Spider-man did it as well as a few others. Not to mention a Goddess or so.

Let's not even get into mythical gods, please.

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I'm surprised you didn't

I'm surprised you didn't mention Spinnerette, Rotten!

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GODDAMMIT FOR! Beat me to

GODDAMMIT FOR! Beat me to Spinny...

And why stop at 8 arms? Why not 0?!

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Thought about it. Just

Thought about it. Just guessed I had enough.

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Lord Nightmare wrote:
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GODDAMMIT FOR! Beat me to Spinny...
And why stop at 8 arms? Why not 0?!

Wait, then how would they punch people if an attack calls for it? Will every unarmed striking power have a punch and kick variant? Will we see glowing energy fists emulate punching for them? Will they head-bonk enemies?

And how would they wield anything? Would a sword float in front of them? Be attached to a tentacle? Be held in their teeth? Between their toes?

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Did someone say arms?

Did someone say arms?

I have had a concept for a character for a while whose main power is creating and deforming multiple limbs somewhat akin to an Inque type character. Which makes me think, why not a "multiple limbs" power-set/move-set/animation-set rather than a costume piece? Surely that would be easier than making all new animations for every move-set.

While on the topic i also have a character whose power is the ability to remove limbs,but...i cant see that working.

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Eep wrote:
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Did someone say arms?

Controller uses confuse power.
Controller: "Are you slapping yourself? Why are you... Oh, wow. Okay, this could take a while."

Each power set is going to have multiple animations. If there were to be a specific multi-limbed power set and/or animation set, it would either lock such characters into specific power sets or they would be unable to customize their powers. Or both.

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I'm not going to speak for

I'm not going to speak for everyone but i feel that might be a preferable alternative to nothing at all. I would think it could always be expanded on later.
Or, y'know, could just come out as a major update much further along, once more animations could be afforded. I dunno, i aint no developer.

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/em rude gesture wow, that

/em rude gesture wow, that would be many, many one fingered salutes.................

and then the toon needs to nod a little bit.

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Eep wrote:
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Did someone say arms?

Oh dear... Yeah, I think we may put a cap on how many arms you can have, unless if some limbs go through the same animation. We could randomize which limb does what animation, but please... Please tell me they're not individually animating every single arm. O_o

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Lord Nightmare wrote:
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And why stop at 8 arms? Why not 0?!

Actually I'd really like if we at least have "invisible" as an option for various body parts. One of my alts would definitely be a self wielding magic weapon. (preferably a mastermind with "Knights" as pets).

As for the four arms though, don't forget that they aren't all Grond & Goro style. Isn't there a guy with three cybernetic arms on one side? And how about right, left, front, and back?

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Also:

Also:

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Classic example:

Classic example:

http://marvel.com/universe/Spiral_(Rita_Wayword)

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I can easily see it being

I can easily see it being hard to program and code. But lets face it. it is not that uncommon for villians to have more than two arms. But I can't decide on that since I am myself not a programmer. It would be damn neat though. But with talking about limbs, would it be possible to have a hero/villian without arms or legs at all? that like used telekinesis or such?

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Multi-arm is "easy" to do in

Multi-arm is "easy" to do in static images (and sculpture), because you just stick the extra arms in and you're done. It's REALLY HARD to make them "look right" when they have to move over time in animation. It's that animation part of things that is the real bugaboo, in no small part because it not only has to look right but also not look silly or stupid.


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If we can get four arms, then

If we can get four arms, then I want a multi attack option to go with my extra arms. I want a super strong guy who can hit you 4 times for your every one. The animation would be worth its weight in gold!

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Cyclops wrote:
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If we can get four arms, then I want a multi attack option to go with my extra arms. I want a super strong guy who can hit you 4 times for your every one. The animation would be worth its weight in gold!

That wouldn't happen for the same reason that no costume item should ever add anything to your combat ability or "armor class" in this game. If the game allowed characters to have four arms and having four did more damage than two arms then every player would make their melee characters with four arms just to get the extra damage.

I'm not against characters physically having four arms in CoT. I'm just saying that a character's chosen powers should be the basis of what a character can or can't do, not their physical shape/size or what they are wearing.

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OTOH, separate animations for

Animations for characters with more than two arms might take a while to develop.

OTOH, separate animations for melee with more than two arms would be nice to have, once the devs have time to develop them.

TGHI, as Redlynne (ed: and Lothic!) noted, anything under the animation hood should be available regardless of which animation is chosen, subject to limits of duration of the animation and points of emanation.

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Cyclops wrote:
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If we can get four arms, then I want a multi attack option to go with my extra arms. I want a super strong guy who can hit you 4 times for your every one. The animation would be worth its weight in gold!

Only way you could excuse balancing that would be:

  • Use 2 arms, deal 12 points of damage (6 each)
  • Use 4 arms, deal 12 points of damage (3 each)
  • Use 6 arms, deal 12 points of damage (2 each)
As has already been pointed out, creating a COSTUME option that yields DOUBLE DPS is basically verboten from the get go. Why? Because ... incentives ... and what we know about Player motivations to do things.


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