I just think it's a shame that such a terrible fire devastated what was once so beautiful a landscape. Think of the animals that died, and the mudslides the area will now be subject to. :-)

My question is about the respawning: just to be clear, you're talking about players here, not mobs?

**Desperately crossing fingers that mobs won't just [i]appear[/i] on top of us**

warcabbit wrote:

Yes, we're talking about players. Mob respawning is a completely different story.
(I wanted them to show up in your inventory and then burst out of your chest but they shouted me down. No fun, they said.)

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Darth Fez wrote:

warcabbit wrote:
Yes, we're talking about players. Mob respawning is a completely different story.
(I wanted them to show up in your inventory and then burst out of your chest but they shouted me down. No fun, they said.)

Only if they've had the blue plate special.*
* Song and dance number available only for Kickstarter backers.

Is this on? Oh, OK. This is your ship's doctor speaking. If there is anyone aboard who did not have the xenomorph eggs for dinner, and knows how to land a starship, please come to the cockpit at once.

I'm not sure I understand exactly what this announcement really means when it comes to respawning. I assume it means you're not going to spend time trying to reinvent an already working wheel that came free with Unreal 4, which sounds good, but I don't think I understand what limitations that poses moving forward or what would have been possible/different if you weren't doing it this way.

Questions:

1. Is it now possible to have in-map jails like CoH had and force people to respawn there?

2. Is it now possible to give people a menu of what they want to do when they get defeated (Use Wakie, Go to Hosp, do nothing and await rez from team, etc)

3. Is it now possible to have self-rez "Rize of the Phoenix" type powers?

4. Are there limitations being imposed on the type of animations and graphics that can be used for respawns?

5. Can you give an example of something that might have been possible if you had done your own homebrew respawn code that is now not possible?

Radiac wrote:

I'm not sure I understand exactly what this announcement really means when it comes to respawning. I assume it means you're not going to spend time trying to reinvent an already working wheel that came free with Unreal 4, which sounds good, but I don't think I understand what limitations that poses moving forward or what would have been possible/different if you weren't doing it this way.
Questions:
1. Is it now possible to have in-map jails like CoH had and force people to respawn there?
2. Is it now possible to give people a menu of what they want to do when they get defeated (Use Wakie, Go to Hosp, do nothing and await rez from team, etc)
3. Is it now possible to have self-rez "Rize of the Phoenix" type powers?
4. Are there limitations being imposed on the type of animations and graphics that can be used for respawns?
5. Can you give an example of something that might have been possible if you had done your own homebrew respawn code that is now not possible?

I'll admit what was specifically said about respawning was a little vague.

But I think the general "take-away" from the post was that even though they started with an "anything will be possible" scope they want to let us know that engineering trade-offs will have to be made in order to actually get a playable game made in a reasonable time. There's really nothing wrong with that - in fact that's pretty much how any software development effort evolves. First you start out brainstorming every pie-in-the-sky thing you want to do, but eventually you settle down to organize your priorities (and fight the battles you need to fight like mentioned in the post).

Bottomline if we end up with a game that incorporates many of the "default" features that UE4 provides I'm sure it'll still be a good game even if it's not exactly as fancy as the Devs originally envisioned it.

Lothic wrote:

But I think the general "take-away" from the post was that even though they started with an "anything will be possible" scope they want to let us know that engineering trade-offs will have to be made in order to actually get a playable game made in a reasonable time.

That's the gist of what I read into the update, as well. I agree that the respawn example was a bit odd, since to me a respawn is a respawn is a respawn. They're always going to be subject to [url=http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GameplayAndStorySegregation]game play and story segregation[/url], so for me the major concern is whether it'll take me five minutes to jump back into the action because the only graveyard (or whatever) was at the other end of the zone.

I miss the hospitals so bad. That was one of my favorite little details. From the sound of it, we'll start off respawning in the street, like in Champions Online, but that's just the default and they fully expect to add at least the hospital function later. In-map jails would be great too, but it sounded like Warcabbit had his own ideas, which I hope he gets to work into the game once they have a solid income pouring in after launch.

I like the general visual style I'm seeing tho.. the lighting effects, the textures and such

So, is this ahead, behind, or right along schedule?

Murphy's law is a real law of the universe. As real as gravity. It should be in the physics books.

RottenLuck wrote:

Interesting enough when you guys choose to go from one option with bad support to another. You seem to find companies that are helpful and encouraging. Cry to Unreal, 3D software 1 to SideFX. Guess in MWM second time the charm.

I wonder if some aspect of this phenomenon will trickle down to us as customers, what with MWM being our second option after NCSoft...

Doctor Tyche wrote:

desviper wrote:
So, is this ahead, behind, or right along schedule?

As mentioned in our January art update, we are a few weeks behind where we wanted to be. The difficulties in getting the 3D software (never have I had such an issue getting someone to take money before, ever) induced the delay. This forced us to change our modelling software vendor ultimately, and the new company, SideFX, has been nothing but helpful and encouraging for us. But, due to the delay, first in getting the software then changing the program requiring some retraining, we did not get art assets as soon as planned for, which caused delays further down the pipeline.

Thank goodness for SideFX.
Happening to be teaching myself Houdini over the next few months.
Will be cool to see what you guys see.

+1

As badly as I want any shred of this game I can get as soon as possible, I know any time spent in the beginning will pay off ten fold in the long run, and I don't want this game to have the spaghetti code issue that CoH and Champions has OR developmental walls or glass ceilings caused by rushing.

A home can only be as sound as it's foundation. And building a proper foundation takes time.

warcabbit wrote:

RottenLuck wrote:
Well not a big problem really so we go back to the basic "Hospital, Wake, Rez power!" We can live with that.

Oh, do you think that's what we're going back to?
We can do better than that.

Ohhh please do tell... :)