Hey Bruce, and all other fellow Phoenix Rising enthusiasts. I am Kiyori Anoyui - The Carnival of Light of the Phoenix Rising brigade. I cannot wait to part of the crime fighting family again :)

Haha, wow thanks Bruce, you must think really highly of me :)I was gonna nominate you as leader!

I just want to bring the music. I volunteer myself for any event that requires tunes (provided I still have a slot at paragon broadcasting when the game launches)

Nah, the Villain should be NCSoft Inc.
>.>

Something Ashes. Like what happens when a pheonix dies. Dead ember? Smoldering ashes? Pheonix ashes? Just throwing random stuff out. Tower I think should be hero side. I don't mind chilling in the slums' xD

Victory's Ashes? as a villain group idea?

Well I'm sure the villains will be more than capable of making a base, even if it isn't a fancy $7,500 one. Or we can break in to yours and kick you out. :P

I like ashes to ashes A LOT

Ashes to Ashes is a cool name as well. A death themed VG where Phoenix Rising is a Life/Rebirth themed one.

And it has the Phoenix Rising logo on the table thanks to Kiyori so obviously it is meant as a hero base not your icky villain base :)

Hero walks into pheonix tower.

*Ashes everywhere*

"DAMN IT DJ DEE! NOT AGAIN!!!!!!"

"Sorry bub, had to use yur gold plated potty"

Oooooo Phoenix Tower! I like that!!!

Oh please you flatter me >_< I don't need a place named after me. Just a place to chill

I do like da logo

Well if the mysterious benefactor part doesn't play out (spoiler alert- villains look away) I can definitely use my penthouse building as a secret Phoenix Rising base ;)

I nominate Capt. Bacon as the Pope!

What are some of your ideas Bran?

Kiyori Anoyui wrote:

What are some of your ideas Bran?

Writing them up in a spreadsheet (to make an easier visual representation) as we speak..... I'll give you a general rundown though:

This concept will have a scaleing effect :

1. At the top we will have : The Phoenix Rising Initiative (original concept/coalition/grand meeting hall) : Here is where it all started. I would VERY much like for this one to tie HEAVILY in the CoT Lore (Atlas Hall : named after the great Hurrican Atlas, or even Atlas Towers : where if we manage to get 2 towers, there can be a corresponding one for Red Side:D), so until more of the lore is released, I don't want to step on any creative toes as far as names and other things go. This 'tier' will consist of The Phoenix Rising Initiatives founding members (that's all of us :D) & their SG's (if they want to keep the original SG's that they had in CoX), which leads to the next tier...

2. Five (5) Phoenix Based (main) SG's : That's right... FIVE! One for each corresponding Origin (if they have them) : Natural, Mutant, Technology, Magic, Science... The names of these SG's should correspond with that particular origin. Example : was thinkin the Magic origin could be something like.... oh... I dunno... Order of the Phoenix, or *cough cough* Circle of the Phoenix XD... Something along those lines, but SOMETHING Phoenixy. On the same level of this tier, will also be the SG's that everyone wanted to keep from the old game, but are still part of the Phoenix Rising Initiative. For example I know that LIttle Mystery wanted to keep her 'Girls of Nukem High' SG from CoX, but because SHE is an official founder of the Phoenix Rising Initiative, that ENTIRE SG will be part of the Coalition!

With me so far? K!

3. Once we have established an universal promotion/ranking system for Tier 2 (I'm thinking once the kickstarter has ended, that way we can get as many coalition members possible, making it just THAT much more diverse and enjoyable), then we can start looking outside of the original founding members SG's in order to further the coalition!

That's all I've got for now... More to folloow :D:D

A quick suggestion for Villain's Group name. If a Phoenix rises to new life by flames and fire, why not use a term that defines death and destruction by flames and fire for a Villian's Group that is the "flip side" of Phoenix Rising?

I give you: IMMOLATION

('tis also the name of a death-metal band, which is rather appropriate, I think. *grins*)

Ok, Immolation takes the kudo award for best villain group so far...at least IMO

As far as origins are concerned. They've told us Origins are story flavor only. No in game mechanic for it...that being said, how about an SG for each classification? There will be diversity there, and if we are all part of a coalition, then we always have a balanced group to call from in to coalition.

We could have the Stalwart Defenders, Rolling Rangers, Lights Guardians...you know things like this...

I don't know. Up to ya'll really what you think.

Why do I get the feeling we're going to have a lot of fire-themed heroes and villains at launch? XD

Per Ignim wrote:

Ok, Immolation takes the kudo award for best villain group so far...at least IMO
As far as origins are concerned. They've told us Origins are story flavor only. No in game mechanic for it...that being said, how about an SG for each classification? There will be diversity there, and if we are all part of a coalition, then we always have a balanced group to call from in to coalition.
We could have the Stalwart Defenders, Rolling Rangers, Lights Guardians...you know things like this...
I don't know. Up to ya'll really what you think.

I didn't realize there weren't going to be origins.. oh well... lol... as far as basing SG's on classifications, I don't really think that would work out so well... sure Melee Damage now has the option of healing and whatnot, but I really don't see how that could ever match the healing potential of someone that has that as their primary classification, such as a defender... not really sure at this point, til more details are released, BUT if there IS a balance there, that would be kinda cool... And concidering that we'll have a HUGE pool of folks to pull from in the Coalition, I can see someone from a Bulwark Class SG EASILY being to team with someone from another Class SG :D... still kinda on the drawing board, for now, though lol

Thanks for the input though!

And that is a problem? My character's name means: By Fire or Through Fire. I've been fire themed since 2004.

Well, I'm out for the night. Keep up the good fight and I'll see ya'll tomorrow.

Hmm... won't let me up an xml...

Oh, wow! Talk about some interesting synergy -

The Death Metal group, Immolation, released a free-to-the-public song set a while back. Among those songs was one that sounds especially relevant for a Villainous Super Group, especially one associated with flaming destruction, ashes, and Phoenix. The song is called "Providence", and you can hear the track here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTkoqsc4k-o
(The particular cut for this song starts at 10.00 on the slider)

For your amusement, here are the lyrics. Enjoy!

PROVIDENCE

Watch the skies blacken
Can you hear their thunder
On majestic wings of death
The swarm will cast its shadow

Like demons spewing fire
Raining death upon us
Their crushing blows of judgment
Reduce our world to ashes

Descend for the kill
Time is standing still
Numb to the screaming havoc
Living through this nightmare

Pounding our world
Shaking our souls
Beating the earth
Like a hammer from the gods

Flames that scorch the heavens
Hurricanes of fire
Making tombs of cities
Burn your way through us all

Phoenix of perdition
Erasing life and light
Miles of blackened ruins
Make the devils proud

I could see using a few seconds of those power chords as a fanfare for the VG. Not enough to violate copyright, but to stay within the "fair use" clauses.

Hi everyone! I'm liking this idea! Here's my thought on it. In one of the updates it was mentioned that many of the buildings would have skywalks between them. Wouldn't it be great if the hero tower and the villain tower were connected by a skywalk? The skywalk (or bridge) would act as 'neutral ground' for meetings and such. Also be a great place for dance parties!

Only on Tuesday ;)

Catching up on the comments above. Looking forward to being apart of this Phoenix Rising.

Global (hopefully will be same from COH) - Bagaden
KS TAG - Bagaden - Phoenix Rising Supporter

I could DJ on Tuesdays. I prefer Saturdays though.

And that flame phoenix could be the logo that is on our tables as well

I really like the logo. I can imagine the black and white one on a super costume. The only problem I see is how close to the other one it is...but if we provide that as a base to begin with I'm sure the artists could come up with something.

With all this talk of it being a tower, I'm beginning to wonder if it might not be cool to have an asymmetrical tower that looked like a flame reaching into heaven. You know, where the base is a lot bigger than the top and you could have a couple of subsidiary towers lower down that break up the outline, lending it almost a modern art feel while still being a building?

They've already got their 'tallest building' picked out, but that's fine. This tower would just need to be taller than the buildings around it...

I just had an idea...and yes it wouldn't be in keeping with the dev's design aesthetic...but what if our tower was in the middle of the industrial district they mentioned. You know, all that air pollution, read smoke, around the building? Plus, that puts our base 'in the middle of the action' as it were. We could have our base in the middle of the clean center of the city, but we're heroes. We bring this beacon of hope to the place where it's needed.

That, and if it looks even a little like a flame, in a modern art sort of way, having it rise out of the smoke would just be frikken awesome.

I liked Immolation, but of course I rarely play redside. @BladeBot if you prefer something else, as someone who will be playing there, I have to defer to your opinion :)

Unfortunately I don't think anyone is currently 'in charge' :)

That being said I don't think we really have a representative sampling of the people yet to make any real decisions :)

True since I'll be peppering you with balls of fire the moment you come into view, and the tower will give me a great sniper's perch.