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The Phoenix Rising Initiative

Hey folks,

Some of you may have already heard about the Phoenix Rising Initiative that I started in the comments for the Kickstarter. I started it as a way to try and generate a litlte bit more money for the campaign, but also as a way to promote more of a community.

It's turned into more of a real thing as far as potentially being a large group of people in-game. So we'll likely have some sort of SuperGroup, or Coalition.

Some potentially exciting news along those lines is: I've been contacted by a Mysterious Benefactor who is graciously willing to donate a building/base for the Initiative to use for our base of operations. How's that for incredible?!

I'm not sure how it will all work just yet, but wanted to start this thread where the Phoenix Rising people can talk about it and vote for leaders, and whatnot. Exciting! :)

So if you have input as far as what you'd like to see for a base, or who you'd want as leaders, chime in! Everyone is welcome. :)

And if you feel like being generous, go throw $5 at the Kickstarter and claim your name for Phoenix Rising! :) (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/missingworldsmedia/the-phoenix-project-city-of-titans)

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-Bruce

EDIT: Edited for some more up-to-date info... Per Ignim is our Benfactor. Thanks, Per! :) We will definitely have a large super-group in-game, in Coalition with a number of other SG's. And we have an in-progress website for Phoenix Rising here: http://www.phoenixrisinginitiative.com (much thanks to Lazareth, Ebon, Kiyori, and Xander) Come check us out!

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I really need to get a life.

I really need to get a life. Hi guys. Chiming in here. First post. Yay!

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Hey Bruce, and all other

Hey Bruce, and all other fellow Phoenix Rising enthusiasts. I am Kiyori Anoyui - The Carnival of Light of the Phoenix Rising brigade. I cannot wait to part of the crime fighting family again :)

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Will there be cookie butter

Will there be cookie butter and meerkats for the hazing ceremonies? o_O

buh? o_o *poke*

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Hey Per Ignim and Kiyori! :)

Hey Per Ignim and Kiyori! :) Thanks for saying Hi.

I nominate Kiyori as Leader! lol

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Pepsi, I thought you were

Pepsi, I thought you were providing the cookie butter and meerkats?

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Haha, wow thanks Bruce, you

Haha, wow thanks Bruce, you must think really highly of me :)I was gonna nominate you as leader!

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You're going to need a

You're going to need a villainous counterpart to this, if it's going to be a supergroup. "Wrath of the Phoenix" perhaps?

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I just want to bring the

I just want to bring the music. I volunteer myself for any event that requires tunes (provided I still have a slot at paragon broadcasting when the game launches)

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Ooooooo I like the idea of a

Ooooooo I like the idea of a villainous counterpart

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Nah, the Villain should be

Nah, the Villain should be NCSoft Inc.
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Joking aside, I think that a

Joking aside, I think that a villain group would be good. As far as I know only one base/building was offered...BruceP might know more than me. If that is the case I vote the building be for the Hero SG.

As fart as the name: Darkest Night for the Villain SG?

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Dee, all events will requite

Dee, all events will requite music! :)

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I know of only one building

I know of only one building/base, but not sure how it will all work in-game yet...

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Something Ashes. Like what

Something Ashes. Like what happens when a pheonix dies. Dead ember? Smoldering ashes? Pheonix ashes? Just throwing random stuff out. Tower I think should be hero side. I don't mind chilling in the slums' xD

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Well as long as I have access

Well as long as I have access to a server to bring music I will! Heck by that time I may be able to rent my own.

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Victory's Ashes? as a

Victory's Ashes? as a villain group idea?

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The villain group could be

The villain group could be 'Ashes to Ashes'. It both demonstrates that their goal is to prevent the rising of the Phoenix from the ashes and also references the well known 'ashes to ashes' phrase used when someone dies, to show just how dedicated to death and destruction they are.

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Well I'm sure the villains

Well I'm sure the villains will be more than capable of making a base, even if it isn't a fancy $7,500 one. Or we can break in to yours and kick you out. :P

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Ooooo I like Victories Ashes.

Ooooo I like Victories Ashes. Ashes of hope? (Muhahaha asses of hope! Oops typo >_>)

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I like ashes to ashes A LOT

I like ashes to ashes A LOT

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I've thought through several

I've thought through several variants of ashes, but I feel like they tend to lack "oomph". Ashes are dead, inanimate, passive. Villains are lively, active, powerful.

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Ashes to Ashes is a cool name

Ashes to Ashes is a cool name as well. A death themed VG where Phoenix Rising is a Life/Rebirth themed one.

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Kill-Term, keep your

Kill-Term, keep your villanous butt outta our shiny base! We just got it cleaned up! :P

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And it has the Phoenix Rising

And it has the Phoenix Rising logo on the table thanks to Kiyori so obviously it is meant as a hero base not your icky villain base :)

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Right across from our meeting

Right across from our meeting room will be a spinoff of Pocket D, we shall call it Pocket DJ Dee! Where there will be lots of parties hosted by our DJ, of course which would be DJ Dee :D

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Hero walks into pheonix tower

Hero walks into pheonix tower.

*Ashes everywhere*

"DAMN IT DJ DEE! NOT AGAIN!!!!!!"

"Sorry bub, had to use yur gold plated potty"

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Besides...isn't a villain

Besides...isn't a villain base supposed to be a secret lair? Having it in a big shiny building wouldn't be in keeping with the theme :)

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Oooooo Phoenix Tower! I like

Oooooo Phoenix Tower! I like that!!!

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Yes, Pocket Dee! lol

Yes, Pocket Dee! lol

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I like Phoenix Tower, too.

I like Phoenix Tower, too.

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The villains can have a

The villains can have a secret cave. The Phoenix Underground

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Oh please you flatter me >_<

Oh please you flatter me >_< I don't need a place named after me. Just a place to chill

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Don't worry about your base

Don't worry about your base being clean BruceP, my attack bots are perfectly sterile. I'm not a complete monster.

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You're so thoughtful, Kill

You're so thoughtful, Kill-Term. ;)

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What's more evil than a

What's more evil than a corrupt business? The Phoenix Corporation! Gotta have a big bankroll and a good front after all...

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So, let's see if we can keep

So, let's see if we can keep this thread going for 2 years.... lol

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So I was thinking a logo

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Maybe we can get it stickied

Maybe we can get it stickied

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I like that, Kiyori. :)

I like that, Kiyori. :)

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I do like da logo

I do like da logo

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This escalated quickly.

This escalated quickly.

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Well if the mysterious

Well if the mysterious benefactor part doesn't play out (spoiler alert- villains look away) I can definitely use my penthouse building as a secret Phoenix Rising base ;)

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Obviously we would have to

Obviously we would have to change that up a bit, if you guys do like that one I can see what my photoshop skills can do and upload a pic when I'm done working on it

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I'll keep people posted as I

I'll keep people posted as I learn more from our Mysterious Benefactor, and if it doesn't work out for some reason, that would be awesome, Kiyori. :)

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Phoenix Rising Récit

Phoenix Rising Récit reporting in!

Very cool news!

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Welcome, Baalumbral! :)

Welcome, Baalumbral! :)

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Head Monkey of Phoenix Rising

Head Monkey of Phoenix Rising swinging in! In-game global will be @BigFish, unless something drastic happens.

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Howdy, Trip!

Howdy, Trip!

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Hey Trip and Baal!!

Hey Trip and Baal!!

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I nominate Capt. Bacon as the

I nominate Capt. Bacon as the Pope!

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Wow.... I'm about to have a

Wow.... I'm about to have a Branstorm-gasm, coming up with ideas here..... omg omg... Can't put them down... fast enough... Talking like.... Bill Shatner.... Again.... XDXD

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What are some of your ideas

What are some of your ideas Bran?

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*Burps and takes another

*Burps and takes another drink of his beer watching everyone chat up a storm* Yeah, yeah guess I'm in too. Of course we could make Alts just for the Phoenix Rising group or Villain group. That is if we aren't going to use our mains in the order.

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Kiyori Anoyui wrote:
Kiyori Anoyui wrote:

What are some of your ideas Bran?

Writing them up in a spreadsheet (to make an easier visual representation) as we speak..... I'll give you a general rundown though:

This concept will have a scaleing effect :

1. At the top we will have : The Phoenix Rising Initiative (original concept/coalition/grand meeting hall) : Here is where it all started. I would VERY much like for this one to tie HEAVILY in the CoT Lore (Atlas Hall : named after the great Hurrican Atlas, or even Atlas Towers : where if we manage to get 2 towers, there can be a corresponding one for Red Side:D), so until more of the lore is released, I don't want to step on any creative toes as far as names and other things go. This 'tier' will consist of The Phoenix Rising Initiatives founding members (that's all of us :D) & their SG's (if they want to keep the original SG's that they had in CoX), which leads to the next tier...

2. Five (5) Phoenix Based (main) SG's : That's right... FIVE! One for each corresponding Origin (if they have them) : Natural, Mutant, Technology, Magic, Science... The names of these SG's should correspond with that particular origin. Example : was thinkin the Magic origin could be something like.... oh... I dunno... Order of the Phoenix, or *cough cough* Circle of the Phoenix XD... Something along those lines, but SOMETHING Phoenixy. On the same level of this tier, will also be the SG's that everyone wanted to keep from the old game, but are still part of the Phoenix Rising Initiative. For example I know that LIttle Mystery wanted to keep her 'Girls of Nukem High' SG from CoX, but because SHE is an official founder of the Phoenix Rising Initiative, that ENTIRE SG will be part of the Coalition!

With me so far? K!

3. Once we have established an universal promotion/ranking system for Tier 2 (I'm thinking once the kickstarter has ended, that way we can get as many coalition members possible, making it just THAT much more diverse and enjoyable), then we can start looking outside of the original founding members SG's in order to further the coalition!

That's all I've got for now... More to folloow :D:D

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Hello new/old people joining

Hello new/old people joining in! :)

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A quick suggestion for

A quick suggestion for Villain's Group name. If a Phoenix rises to new life by flames and fire, why not use a term that defines death and destruction by flames and fire for a Villian's Group that is the "flip side" of Phoenix Rising?

I give you: IMMOLATION

('tis also the name of a death-metal band, which is rather appropriate, I think. *grins*)

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vrghr01 wrote:
vrghr01 wrote:

A quick suggestion for Villain's Group name. If a Phoenix rises to new life by flames and fire, why not use a term that defines death and destruction by flames and fire for a Villian's Group that is the "flip side" of Phoenix Rising?
I give you: IMMOLATION
('tis also the name of a death-metal band, which is rather appropriate, I think. *grins*)

That sounds like a FANTASTIC idea!!! Kinda like the heroes look forward and upward, focusing on rebirth and prosparity, while the villains dwell on the fallen, focusing on revenge and anger! I like it!!

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Ok, Immolation takes the kudo

Ok, Immolation takes the kudo award for best villain group so far...at least IMO

As far as origins are concerned. They've told us Origins are story flavor only. No in game mechanic for it...that being said, how about an SG for each classification? There will be diversity there, and if we are all part of a coalition, then we always have a balanced group to call from in to coalition.

We could have the Stalwart Defenders, Rolling Rangers, Lights Guardians...you know things like this...

I don't know. Up to ya'll really what you think.

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It also lends itself to all

It also lends itself to all manner of villainous hyperbole. Like"

"We will rain fiery death upon you! We are Immolation!"

"All your accomplishments become ashes when touched by Immolation!"

Etc.

'Cause, let's face it, if you can't use your VG name in over-the-top proclamations, you're not doing it right!

Or, in the immortal words of Megamind: "Do you know the difference between a Villain and a Super Villain? STYLE!"

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Why do I get the feeling we

Why do I get the feeling we're going to have a lot of fire-themed heroes and villains at launch? XD

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So. Many. Fire-themed. Things

So. Many. Fire-themed. Things. It'll be ridiculous. lol

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Per Ignim wrote:
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Ok, Immolation takes the kudo award for best villain group so far...at least IMO
As far as origins are concerned. They've told us Origins are story flavor only. No in game mechanic for it...that being said, how about an SG for each classification? There will be diversity there, and if we are all part of a coalition, then we always have a balanced group to call from in to coalition.
We could have the Stalwart Defenders, Rolling Rangers, Lights Guardians...you know things like this...
I don't know. Up to ya'll really what you think.

I didn't realize there weren't going to be origins.. oh well... lol... as far as basing SG's on classifications, I don't really think that would work out so well... sure Melee Damage now has the option of healing and whatnot, but I really don't see how that could ever match the healing potential of someone that has that as their primary classification, such as a defender... not really sure at this point, til more details are released, BUT if there IS a balance there, that would be kinda cool... And concidering that we'll have a HUGE pool of folks to pull from in the Coalition, I can see someone from a Bulwark Class SG EASILY being to team with someone from another Class SG :D... still kinda on the drawing board, for now, though lol

Thanks for the input though!

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"Firemen band together to

"Firemen band together to stop the out of control surge in flaming heroes and villains. More at 11."

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And that is a problem? My

And that is a problem? My character's name means: By Fire or Through Fire. I've been fire themed since 2004.

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So. Many. Fire-themed. Things
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So. Many. Fire-themed. Things. It'll be ridiculous. lol

Now all we need is a "Fiery Phoenix" costume change emote, so a casual group of "bystanders" at the scene of a disaster can suddenly all burst into a tower of flame and emerge in SG colors and costumes. Do it coordinated via SG chat channel, and the results would be epic!

Would also be real nice for making an "entry" at the podium when the leader addresses the hall of SG folks at the start of the annual pot luck and ice cream social! *grins*

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Well, I'm out for the night.

Well, I'm out for the night. Keep up the good fight and I'll see ya'll tomorrow.

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Later, Per Ignim!

Later, Per Ignim!

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Hmm... won't let me up an xml

Hmm... won't let me up an xml...

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Aw Well... Ya'll get the

Aw Well... Ya'll get the general idea :D

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Oh, wow! Talk about some

Oh, wow! Talk about some interesting synergy -

The Death Metal group, Immolation, released a free-to-the-public song set a while back. Among those songs was one that sounds especially relevant for a Villainous Super Group, especially one associated with flaming destruction, ashes, and Phoenix. The song is called "Providence", and you can hear the track here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTkoqsc4k-o
(The particular cut for this song starts at 10.00 on the slider)

For your amusement, here are the lyrics. Enjoy!

PROVIDENCE

Watch the skies blacken
Can you hear their thunder
On majestic wings of death
The swarm will cast its shadow

Like demons spewing fire
Raining death upon us
Their crushing blows of judgment
Reduce our world to ashes

Descend for the kill
Time is standing still
Numb to the screaming havoc
Living through this nightmare

Pounding our world
Shaking our souls
Beating the earth
Like a hammer from the gods

Flames that scorch the heavens
Hurricanes of fire
Making tombs of cities
Burn your way through us all

Phoenix of perdition
Erasing life and light
Miles of blackened ruins
Make the devils proud

I could see using a few seconds of those power chords as a fanfare for the VG. Not enough to violate copyright, but to stay within the "fair use" clauses.

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Man, the coincidence fairy is

Man, the coincidence fairy is working overtime tonight. That's crazy.

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Hi everyone! I'm liking this

Hi everyone! I'm liking this idea! Here's my thought on it. In one of the updates it was mentioned that many of the buildings would have skywalks between them. Wouldn't it be great if the hero tower and the villain tower were connected by a skywalk? The skywalk (or bridge) would act as 'neutral ground' for meetings and such. Also be a great place for dance parties!

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Nina Guardian wrote:
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Hi everyone! I'm liking this idea! Here's my thought on it. In one of the updates it was mentioned that many of the buildings would have skywalks between them. Wouldn't it be great if the hero tower and the villain tower were connected by a skywalk? The skywalk (or bridge) would act as 'neutral ground' for meetings and such. Also be a great place for dance parties!

... nekkid dance parties? o_O

buh? o_o *poke*

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Only on Tuesday ;)

Only on Tuesday ;)

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Tuesday nakie dance parties,

Tuesday nakie dance parties, yay! lol

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Catching up on the comments

Catching up on the comments above. Looking forward to being apart of this Phoenix Rising.

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I'll throw my info into the

I'll throw my info into the pot:

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I could DJ on Tuesdays. I

I could DJ on Tuesdays. I prefer Saturdays though.

Check out ur new station http://www.namesakeradio.com/ !!!!!

I go live every Saturday night at 9pm EST! ^o^

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Ok, here it is, I finished

Ok, here it is, I finished the rough draft logo for The Phoenix Rising, obviously I am horrid at photoshop, but this is the rough draft image http://i.picresize.com/8bF

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And that flame phoenix could

And that flame phoenix could be the logo that is on our tables as well

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http://i.picresize.com/8bq

http://i.picresize.com/8ej
Black and White Version

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I really like the logo. I

I really like the logo. I can imagine the black and white one on a super costume. The only problem I see is how close to the other one it is...but if we provide that as a base to begin with I'm sure the artists could come up with something.

With all this talk of it being a tower, I'm beginning to wonder if it might not be cool to have an asymmetrical tower that looked like a flame reaching into heaven. You know, where the base is a lot bigger than the top and you could have a couple of subsidiary towers lower down that break up the outline, lending it almost a modern art feel while still being a building?

They've already got their 'tallest building' picked out, but that's fine. This tower would just need to be taller than the buildings around it...

I just had an idea...and yes it wouldn't be in keeping with the dev's design aesthetic...but what if our tower was in the middle of the industrial district they mentioned. You know, all that air pollution, read smoke, around the building? Plus, that puts our base 'in the middle of the action' as it were. We could have our base in the middle of the clean center of the city, but we're heroes. We bring this beacon of hope to the place where it's needed.

That, and if it looks even a little like a flame, in a modern art sort of way, having it rise out of the smoke would just be frikken awesome.

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Kiyori Anoyui wrote:
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Ok, here it is, I finished the rough draft logo for The Phoenix Rising, obviously I am horrid at photoshop, but this is the rough draft image http://i.picresize.com/8bF

Sweetazz logo dude!!

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That's a cool start to the

That's a cool start to the logo, Kiyori. In the color version, it's a bit hard to make out the bird against the flames, though. What does it look like to use a solid color (black, for instance) for the bird?

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I'm more likely to be red

I'm more likely to be red side than blue side, so I'd be interested in joining or at least keeping tabs on the villain side SG based around this. And if we're going to be forming a sort of symmetry with these groups, then why not Phoenix Falling/Fallen Phoenix? Phoenix Rising and Phoenix Falling. Life and death. An eternal struggle of creation and destruction. Anyway, that's just my opinion.

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I liked Immolation, but of

I liked Immolation, but of course I rarely play redside. @BladeBot if you prefer something else, as someone who will be playing there, I have to defer to your opinion :)

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Well, I don't want to just

Well, I don't want to just come storming in expecting everyone to cater to my wants. Merely expressing my point of view. It's up to the majority/the people in charge what happens.

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Unfortunately I don't think

Unfortunately I don't think anyone is currently 'in charge' :)

That being said I don't think we really have a representative sampling of the people yet to make any real decisions :)

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True. Hopefully the redside

True. Hopefully the redside group will have as many members as the blue! Wetting my blade with the blood of you pesky heroes will be easier with a team at my back. ;P

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True since I'll be peppering

True since I'll be peppering you with balls of fire the moment you come into view, and the tower will give me a great sniper's perch.

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