Hello,
I have been following the development of this game for around ~5 years. I wasn't able to fund in the first Kickstarter because I was a broke 17-year-old. However, now I am a college graduate with a bachelors in Computer Science. From what I am hearing Issue Zero will be available for most Kickstarter contributors. Since I was unable to help fund that first run what sort of content will I be missing? Will you be allowing peoples like me to get involved in Issue Zero? Will, there be some sort of "Sewer-like" area? Will the characters transfer over when the game officially releases?
Thanks,
Nic :)
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The people on the forum have varied expectations of what they believe will be in Issue 0, so instead of telling you my thoughts I'll instead recommend taking every response on this thread with a grain of salt unless it's from someone who actually works for MWM. The only thing we really know for certain about Issue 0 is that it will start with access to the Character Creator and have some yet-undetermined features added over time until Issue 1.
I do know there will soon[sup]tm[/sup] be another opportunity for funding participation (colloquially referred to as Second Chance). We've been given the impression that folks who backed the original Kickstarter and folks who participate in the Second Chance will get access to Issue 0, but I expect it won't be all backers at the same time.
Spurn all ye kindle.
I've been pretty active here, and from what I can tell issue 0 is: a character creator and a limited test environment with chat features and I'm guessing target dummies.
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Oh hey, didn't know missions would come so soon!
I'd guessed NPCs next.
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This is very true.
We are quickly running out of 2018 days on the calendar. So get your pitchforks polished up in the anticipation of the forum skewering that is brewing. A year ago (or so), it was to be released in 2018. Then fall 2018. Then fall 2018 got redefined as almost winter 2018 (since winter doesn't officially kick in until the last week+ of the year). Through all of this maneuvering there has been no outwardly facing communication (to my knowledge) about how people who missed the original Kickstarter can gain access to the Character Creator (or Character Generator or Avatar Builder or whatever since there is no official naming scheme yet). They did establish that there would be a Second Chance kickstarter style mechanism setup to serve this very need/request, but information regarding this effort has been delayed since MWM wanted to firm up the code before accepting anymore money (outside of merch or the comic). So that is basically where we stand, ~35 days away with no details.
The point is we don't know how access will be handled for people that missed the original Kickstarter. There has been no communication about how it will work and we are running out of time (based on a deadline MWM created). All we can do is be patient and try to decipher the tidbits that do leak out to better understand where the code is progressing and where it still needs help. Only when it starts to look like a real product will we get any real information.
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The 2018 goal was set in 2016. At least, the Missing World's Media Facebook page banner was uploaded in 2016, which says 2018.
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I believe that the intent is still for Issue 0 to launch with, or right around, the Second Chance. Whether it is due to MWM's deal with Epic or something else, you need to make your donation / purchase the game to get access to Issue 0.[color=red]*[/color] We have no information on how the access will work. It may be waves, or perhaps everyone who has donated will get access.
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[color=red]*[/color] We already know for a fact that MWM can't release the AB as a standalone. They can only release the game. Hence Issue 0 will officially be a beta of the game, even though, from my understanding, it won't be even close to a beta release.
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Quickly, CoT is not the first to say "this year" and release in November/December of the year. Maybe I'm just pessimistic but when I hear "coming soon in 2019" I think "coming holiday 2019" by default.
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Thanks for that, DC. That's interesting. This sounds less like getting our hands on the CC and more like Early Access, which I thought MWM said they weren't going to do.
As for access to Issue 0, in case anyone was distracted by the cool costumes in the most recent update, this note was in the text:
'We do still intend to give the first wave of backers access to it before end of year.'
So while that doesn't mention the Second Chance, it does indicate a date (I suppose 'before end of year' can equate to Fall 2018). But note that they say 'first wave of backers,' not 'all backers.' Hopefully that will help keep the pitchforks on their wall hooks when end of the year rolls around and not everyone has access yet. But also notice they say they 'intend' for this to happen, so things could still change in either direction.
Spurn all ye kindle.
Whether or not it's right, I think it's safe to assume that there are going to be torch's and pitchforks regardless. They've had Fall 2018 for a long time now, and we are in the last 1/3 of "Fall" and no date or any concrete information really. I really couldn't care less as I'm not an original backer so I won't be getting access anyway, plus I care more about the game and less about the chargen so this isn't really that exciting for me. But there are thousands of backers all wanting, maybe expecting, to be IN the chargen this year and they won't be since they are starting with a small group first.
Being this far in, and this close to the end of Fall 2018 with no firm date able to be set, I am expecting an announcement pushing it back to Q1 of 2019, probably March. I just think if you're still unsure enough at this point that you can't set a date then it's probably not going to happen.
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I'm afraid you might be right about the inevitability of the pitchforks. :-(
Thanks for that new quote from Facebook that I wish MWM had posted here on the forums. Especially given that the question has been asked on the recent update thread a couple times now.
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Unfortunately it's not uncommon to find bits of important information like that on one of their sites on not on the others. Not sure why they don't make things that like clear and easy to find, especially when so many are asking about it. Oh well.
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Fortunately for me, I live under the philosophy of "Everything on Facebook is a lie." Corporate sales announcements, MMO Developer statements, Aunt Shirley's vacation blog, my ex-girlfriend's social calendar, FB's TOS, everything.
Makes life much simpler.
As regards to Issue Zero, I've waited this long, I will continue to be patient.
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I hope we could have access to the SG :)
For Issue #0, i hope MWM will make the "list" of what is release with it and then make a list of the element of each update they 'll put until issue #1
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That "List" would be available to the testers, not the general public. Devs, would be releasing very limited info to the general public.
I am more interested in when we will see issue zero. A lot of people are watching to see if they hit their schedule.
I sharpened my pitchfork just the other day so it would be ready, just in case.
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The way I see it, the better I'll be able to afford it the later it is :p
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We may have concerns, but we like and trust you folks, and we're extremely grateful that you're doing this project in the first place.
I think clearer communication will be the best pre-emptive defence against the pitchforks.
(Note that isn't directed at you, Tannim. You are always extremely clear and detailed on any topic you're allowed to talk about.)
Spurn all ye kindle.
I don't often post to these forums, though I hunt through them fairly regularly. I only post when I feel compelled to.
Cinnder, never have I seen a more concise and softly-worded bit of advice on the critical subject of communication. I hope they take note. I salute you. :-)
Indeed.
+1
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On a slightly more serious note for myself, I really don't think [i]too[/i] many people would rage if there is a setback that pushes Issue #0 past the "Fall 2018" goal. Yes, I feel like there are some lapses in communication and maybe some other things that bother me....but ultimately this is still the only game I plan on playing despite the setbacks and frustrations. So really, no matter what they do I am probably still going to donate once they drop some new gameplay footage. For the people that do grab their pitchforks, I'm sure most of them will drop their pitchforks as soon as the new website is up....as long as it really is a new and improved one with a lot more info and media and not just a reskin of this one. I'm sure that will go a long way to soothe fan's impatience. But, yes, for your supporter's sake it's probably better to meet deadlines and expectations if possible.
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Take note of special announcement message on the top of the forum page.
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*refreshes home page*
*refreshes tracker page*
*opens forum page and refreshes*
*repeats on another device*
Hmmm. Is that general advice for when there is a special announcement message, or is there something I'm not seeing?
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I think it will come in a moment :) Just stay aware (or alert ? i don't know how to say that lol just look at the banner, it will come soon i think ^^)
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I remember doing the refresh tango back in CoH Beta. Nostalgia rush!
Are you saying you are about announcing the issue 0 release ? ^^
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I wait patiently for the news! Pockets ready to support you guys!
+ 1 about Cinnder :), but I don't see anything yet either...
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All Kickstarter Backers: Please go to your Kickstarter account and update your emails.
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Nope. Still not seeing anything at the top of any page--banner, text, or otherwise. Is it because I'm on mobile? I'll check it out on a computer when I get home.
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Not seeing the announcement either and on a PC.
Aw shucks! And here I didn't think it was possible to like Cookies any more than I already did.
I'm not seeing any banner either, but I've followed darnstrong's instructions. He forgot to add 'Try to calm down any butterflies you might have at the thought of possibly getting access in the near future.'
Spurn all ye kindle.
Is this another 'look closer' moment...
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No, i just copy and pasted the info from the banner, so you all could see it.. it's being looked into :)
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Maybe... I don't know... make an explicit post with the aforementioned information?
I do not see a banner at the top of the forum. I do not see a post on the KS page. I do not see anything new on the CoT main page. But to be fair I am not a KS backer, so maybe there is some sort of smart filtering mechanism in place that excludes forum accounts like mine ([I]but if that was the case, why not just post the info on the KS-only portion of the forums and be done with it[/I]).
Now that the information is sorta 'out' it will trickle through the fan base. If the KS backers follow this thread or they know someone who follows this thread they will become informed. In my mind the banner is a mechanism to call attention to something, not a vehicle for transmitting information since it is transitional in its nature. This (banner approach) feels like a friendly bread-crumb-like invitation to venture down the imminently accessible AB/CC rabbit hole. Something that a friend would tease another friend with to get them to join in some fun times.
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It Isn’t meant as a tease and I’m sorry if it came off that way. The message is for KS backers on the forums to pre-check their e-mail filters for their KS used e-mail for the upcoming e-mail for Issue 0. Sending them an e-mail to check their e-mail is rather counter-productive.
Calling attention to something is a form of transmitting information. We didn’t use the traditional banner location for this either.
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I receive all the KS updates via e-mail, so I'm quite certain I'm set where that's concerned.
No banner for me, either. Same thing happened with that huge banner about the repository fall down go boom.
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I'm in the same boat as the others- KS and website email is the same, I get the KS emails as expected. No banner.
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Finally got home. No banner. Getting the KS emails. Logged in. Cannot figure out how to set junk mail filters on Windows Mail, assuming it has such things; I've seen no evidence of them. Now looking for new email client.
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No banner for me either, and no email. I do normally get all the KS emails, and there's nothing in my spam filter, so I can only assume the email hasn't gone out yet.
I can only assume this is a somewhat clumsy "Heads Up!" for an email that will come tonight or tomorrow, so Issue 0 can launch on November 30, as some have predicted/guessed/anticipated.
None of this is meant as a criticism or complaint, MWM folks... This will be a huge step, and as always, I realize what a scramble coordinating something like this can be. Just trying to figure out what to expect, and when.
Either way, I know my job: If nothing shows up today or tomorrow, I keep waiting. :)
Hmmm...that brings up a good point: would it be possible to post a notice on a thread (or get the banner working correctly) telling us when messages have been sent out, so that if we haven't properly deactivated all the spam obstacles we will know to go looking for lost emails?
Spurn all ye kindle.
No banner here, but I am the +1 in a Dynamic Duo donation, and [u]not[/u] the one who gets the emails.
On the plus side, the room mate [u]is[/u] getting the emails, so all is well on that front.
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It's just a pre-check. I don't know where people see that an email was sent or will be sent today or tomorrow ^^
MWM is just saying that they will send an email so it's better if people pre check their ks account and mailbox. That's all dudes ^^
/invit is not for now ;)
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I got it!
Update: OMG it's great and doesn't take long to download! I won't sleep this night I think...
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I don’t know, the villain in me thinks it’s rather hilarious!
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It is definitely evil, though!
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This is probably the quickest I’ve ever gone from “heart skipped a beat in excitement” to “heart sinking.”
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ThunderCAP gets my vote for [I]Villain of the Year™[/I] :P
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its quiet...too quiet. I think some one is plotting something.
Plotting? Us? Nope.... nothing to see here, citizen.
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Wait until you see the... nope, that would ruin the surprise.
they giant inflatable purple gorilla???? you shouldnt have!!!!!
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You know, that might actually be a fun community event. You enter yourself as either a Hero/Villain/Vigilante/etc. and then the community gets to vote for whomever based on multiple factors (i.e. costume and bio - maybe more?). Then after all of the “winners” are chosen, that pool gets sent on to the Titan of the Year category. That one could be left to Devs / community managers appointed by them.
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I so can't wait for this to get here lol. A Backer here waiting for the invite to get in :-)
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