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I bet the background is just if you're starting in north or south Titan.
The little guy in a circle looks like a UI piece.
Yay female model!
New website? Hope it has a dark theme.
Can't wait to see what cybernetics we have available.
Here, I'll state it to make sure it's clear:
Issue #0 will have the chargen. It is almost certainly to have chat, and a zone for people to interact with. It will have a testing (both alpha and beta) period and a release, although drawing the lines between them really is arbitrary.
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Thanks, Doc!
Spurn all ye kindle.
Okay. Issue 0. There are a few things I'm prepared to say about Issue 0.
It will be what it is. We intend to make it a character creator with a chat environment, but a lot of outward-facing infrastructure has to be in place for that, and we just lost a good amount of time.
It needs to have a dynamic patcher, so we don't have to make everyone go to a link and download a new version of the game.
Once Issue 0 is running, though, we'll have solved most of the back-end problems. Second Chance will run, and the game should start upgrading quickly from 'chat environment' to something a bit bigger.
Edit: Ha! Doc beat me to it. Looks like we basically said the same thing, though.
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Ooh, even more juicy details! Thanks, Cabbit!
Spurn all ye kindle.
Is it possible MWM is trying to take hints from big companies like creative assembly and blizzard with their teasers? It feels like an attempt to do that, but without the absolutely gigantic and obsessive fanbase that can spend huge amounts of time taking things apart pixel by pixel.
This strategy has even backfired lately with big companies like that, with fans getting grumpy over big droughts and gimmicky teasers that ultimately have little substance. CA's latest big idea has been teasers for announcements of trailers for content.
When people are hungry for a steak sending them a postcard of a picture of a menu for a restaurant and then telling them to "look closer" just makes them grumpy.
e: Nevermind, this was all cleared up while I typed! Awesome.
[i]*quickly hides the postcard of the Chargen photo that was taken by a 2003 VGA phone camera and printed on cheap cardstock that has the caption "Look Closer" written on it*[/i]
Damn..
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I was thinking your standard Kree warrior but kudos for the Unicorn reference. Old school Iron Man fan here, especially all the Bob Layton years.
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Thanks Doc & warcabbit. I asked this earlier but it seemed to get lost in the avalanche. Out of curiosity, will the "Dynamic Duo" option chosen allow both to take part in Issue 0?
For reference:
Thank you for the responses. I just wanted to point out to other fans some details to curb their expectations to be more in line with what appears to be reality. First, the chat feature and a zone to run around in are not confirmed. Almost...but it's not a guarantee. They want to add them but they may not be done in time for release. So I would think it's safe to say that [i]eventually[/i] there will be those features in Issue #0, but maybe not at same time as the public release. There will also be 2 testing periods before the release...we don't know if the FALL 2018 is referring to the first testing period...which might or might not be open to the public...or the public release.
This makes it sound like the 2nd Chance will be [i]AFTER[/i] the chargen testing periods. This only makes sense; they don't want to release a buggy chargen at the same time as 2nd Chance...that wouldn't look good. So, if the release (after the testing periods) is what they are saying is FALL 2018 then the 2nd Chance is likely this year as well. If FALL 2018 is referring to a testing period then I would argue the 2nd Chance and public release will be well into next year.
The only thing left that I want them to confirm in a future update is if the chargen is the thing that is supposed to be getting people to donate or if they are planning on making a polished video of combat, travel powers, Titan City (NOT concept art), to release with the 2nd Chance. I probably wouldn't donate without seeing what playing the game will look like.
However, this is easily remedied if the 2nd Chance isn't on a time limit. If the new website includes the donate feature and it remains open until they are able to provide such a polished video full of all of those features, at that time I would feel comfortable donating if it looks as good as our expectations. Most people will only need the chargen to donate, and that's great. In CoH it never took me long to create an avatar, I've always been much more into the gameplay than creating a character for hours so that's what I am waiting for to donate. I'm glad most people seem to require much less to donate.
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Yeah that avalanche makes it difficult for some questions to be seen by MWM. The first time I asked the question I referred to the posts from folks like you who had asked it already.
Aye, that's why I was asking, because I think sometimes people make assumptions and then get disappointed when the reality doesn't match. Your words of caution seem perfectly prudent in this case. We have to make sure that in our excitement for the game we don't presume more than MWM has actually said.
Spurn all ye kindle.
For what it's worth I did answer this based on the information [url=https://cityoftitans.com/comment/158886#comment-158886]I had already "squeezed" out of the Devs several months ago[/url]. I realize I'm not technically a Dev so it's always better to have a Dev repeat this info than to rely just on me. But then again nothing I said about all this earlier in this thread has been categorically refuted/denied by Dev yet either. Just saying.
Welcome to the party already in progress... ;)
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This makes it sound like 2nd chance backers won't be able to be in Issue 0 at launch, which honestly fucking blows. Why is there no chance for us to get at I0 launch? A lot of us missed out for various reasons, but have been following this game loyally for years. I just want to give you guys money for the game at I0. Please reconsider allowing us to back in time for I0 launch.
The Altruist, Invulnerability/Super Strength Stalwart.
Has there been any discussion of what development will be like after "issue 0"? Is the plan to swing into more of an open donation model with playable alpha/early access from there until release?
Really awesome update. Kudos to everyone involved. Thanks for bringing us up to speed on several aspects of development (although it does admittedly leave many questions left unanswered, but something is better than nothing!).
I do hope that the release of issue 0 will coincide with the second chance, so that people can have access. The fact that the second chance will not be on kickstarter, and likely in an open funding fashion, I see no reason why it shouldn't be done sooner rather than later. It is true that you need to build hype right as you open the second chance, but I think a shiny new website and an updated version of paragon chat will be more than enough to do just that. Then with more updates, hype will only increase.
I know the "look closer" thing has already been resolved, but something no one mentioned that I see in the avatar builder image is that the head of the character in frame, the only one that is not inside a screen shot of its own, looks....inhuman. It's hard to tell because it's blocked by the stone guy (which is really awesome btw), but it looks like I see some kind of gray hair and a horn maybe? Looks like it could be a goat head possibly? I dunno, maybe I'm crazy.
This is good to know, thanks for clearing this up. Will we have options for different stances in character creator? What about in game? If I recall correctly, didn't CoX have options for wild animal stances, and several other stances to choose from?
If memory serves, those were different styles of Sprints that put your character in a different stance, so to speak, but only while that particular Sprint power was toggled on.
Beast Run (https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Inherent_Powers#Beast_Run) was the one that I recall the most distinctly.
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To be fair, I may have forgotten about Stances if there were any.
[b]What is Issue #0?[/b]
Our first release of the game has to include the full game engine due to the license restrictions placed upon us for the Unreal engine. So issuing only the Avatar Builder as a separate entity is not an option. This has been stated before. But we are not going to be able to deliver the complete game with all of its features yet either.
As a result we will be delivering the game in incremental releases, starting with the barest bones and adding capabilities as we go.
Issue #1 will be the first issue of the full-featured game. We're using the comic book nomenclature "issue" because we think it is appropriate. So in comic book parlance Issue #0 is typically the origins issue and we think that is appropriate in this case as well. Our first release will be Issue #0 and will include the Avatar Builder and some other features as mentioned by Doctor Tyche and Warcabbit above. Then as we add more features we will be releasing more increments until we are ready for the full release of issue #1, which may be next year or maybe even later. We will get a better grasp on when that will occur as we see the results of all the testing to be performed. We're introducing some very new concepts to MMOs such as a fat-slider, layered costume items, aesthetic decoupling, non-binary controls and player scaling; in addition to alignments and mission structures with decision trees and the effects those have on solo and group play. In other words, the chances of everything working the way we want it to the first time will be close to nil. The time and development effort between issue #0 and issue #1 will be as long as it takes to make it right and good. We think you will support us with that.
On the bright side, the new website and Issue #0 should provide enough assurance and incentive to properly kick off a second chance fundraising campaign. And if my sources are correct, we intend to use that funding to get a full-time development team situated so we can conquer all the things I just mentioned in a timely fashion.
I hope this answers your questions about Issue #0.
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I also see sort of Sabertooth, Doctor Fate, Cap America, Daredevil, The Thing.
Maybe I see too much^^.
Thanks for the update Treed, just quick question will the 2nd chance donation allow us into the character generator or do we have to wait to till later date? Thanks again!
It sounds to me like issue 0 will be an incentive in the second chance. That was the exact wording they used, so I think a donation in the second chance should definitely give access to the char gen at a minimum.
Awesome! Thanks for the clarity Kid Rad, already planning some character ideas.
This sounds very good. "Origins Issue." I like it. Then we can build our characters up from there. :)
Shocking Blu
Thanks for the even-more-detailed response, Treed!
I think this is important for everyone to remember. I for one definitely support you with that.
Spurn all ye kindle.
Well I know we have received several Dev clarifications since this post, but I feel like this is precious fodder for a conspiracy theory. It should not be wasted.
Because this is a game based upon comic book superheroes, we are clearly being invited Explore Mark Badger comic books...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Badger
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Martian_Manhunter_Vol_1_2
http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Marvel_Graphic_Novel_Vol_1_20
https://cov2cov.wordpress.com/2017/07/26/doctor-strange-1985-74-mark-badger/
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/File:LODK_Jazz_3.jpg
...or maybe not.
I am perfectly ok with a updated Paragon Chat program until all the features are ironed out. At least we have a chance to try out our character designs in the meanwhile while supporting the developers. Hopefully we can have mini holiday events either ran by the players or devs to keep us busy until we can play a small bit of the game.
OOoo cant wait to play it
Not sure this qualifies as an updated Paragon Chat. Paragon Chat has CoH's full chargen and whole world to explore along with chat and travel powers.
CoT's Issue #0 is, however, infinitely more appealing because, if we are able to run around, we'll know that the world is coming. It won't be just a husk of a former glory that will never be again.
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Took a peek at ParagonWiki, there're 303 pages under "hero contacts", so they've already got about half of issue 24 blueside :)
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Ain't it the Truth Dark Cleric. With this game there is a ton of potential. If the char gen releases around Christmas time, I am looking forward to the CC being held by Devs or Players. Should be a ton of fun!
I read from an earlier dev post that this game will be huge. I could imagine the Taxi Bots for CoH days will be popular for the players in this.
If I had to put money on it, I would be willing to bet the starter map we will get in issue 0 is the bank map that Doc showed off in a twitch stream last year. Here:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/162768297
Just a hunch though.
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Hey ... somebody looks familiar in here ...
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No ... it couldn't be ... ...?
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Didn't see that one. That bank is beautiful.
He does look familiar.
LOL! The villainous Mongol-Scot! Khan of Khans and Laird of Lairds! :D
Shocking Blu
I disagree. I doubt they would 'spoil' any of the actual playable maps at release during Issue #0, especially the one that we will all be experiencing first. I might be alone here but I don't want to be able to run around the starting area the first time I enter this game and have my first impression of Titan City be an empty husk. I also remember there being discussions about a potential 'run around' zone being a part of the Lockharde Island since that isn't playable at launch. I would personally much prefer this as it wouldn't give anything away for our first encounter with Titan City.
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I'll take that bet. I bet it's Lockharte (Lockhart? Lockhard? The island where the prison is) Island
The Altruist, Invulnerability/Super Strength Stalwart.
I hadn't heard much about Lockharde Island, but now that you mention it, you can alltruist could be right.
+1
Spurn all ye kindle.
For the record, it's Hardloche Island. The only reason I know this is because I was searching the forums to find more info on it, but the only single reference I could find was avel correcting you previously.
https://cityoftitans.com/forum/discuss-instagram-recap-june
It makes me wonder, where exactly did you learn about this place? I looked through all of the area descriptions for Titan city, and didn't see a single reference to a place called Hardloche Island. Is there another location you read about it?
For the record: https://cityoftitans.com/forum/discuss-happy-4th-july-2018#comment-152606. That's a link to comment #25 on the July 4th video release.
Also, comment #87 Doctor Tyche confirms it as well in that thread. Oh, and again in comment #99.
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I realized I should have finished reading the post I linked to, which concludes by saying "Edit: Update. We decided to avoid future confusion and leave things as they are.". Lol, oh the irony. Oh well.
Nope. Someone thought it was Sabertooth, again nope.
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By it's very intent Issue 0 will have to be an open event, since the whole idea is to have something to show for the Second Chance. People will definitely need to have access to I0 whether they are KS backers or not. One of the Kickstarter perks is access to one of the closed betas. As DocT pointed out, there will be testing and it's during that time that I expect that people will get the closed beta access. So, I do expect that you'll be able to be in Issue 0 at launch. I read into warcabbit's comments that people will get to experience I0 for a while before the Second Chance kicks off.
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also this is the same suit with different skins applied
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As one can plainly see, it’s Dog The Bounty Hunter, brah! The cuffs are just in the back under the trench!
Meh. Bah!
They'll be pretty much at the same time. The back end needed to run Second Chance is also the back end needed to run Issue 0. It is possible there might be some slight delay - a week or two - but we're aiming for a mostly simultaneous launch there.
We want your money. We want it _quite a lot_. It's important to us. No, really, it is, your Second Chance money is what will enable us to push Issue 0 to Issue 1.
But we also don't want to ask for your money till we're sure we're ethically capable of taking it for what we promise you.
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It's Lockehard. There was a small case of spoonerism on it.
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Metal Gear?
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Same _assemblage of pieces_ with different material options, patterns, and colors chosen. I mean this thing isn't a single suit, it's made up out of like 40 choices.
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Ooo - animated background too it seems - at least it looks like the OPEN sign is blinking on and off.
Why give it away like that :D
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Because we like free stuff?
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Well, now that he mentioned it I do totally see Liquid Snake, maybe a bit of Ocelot. Hehe
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Hi! This is understandable. I wish I had been around for the kickstarter, but found out about the project a bit later on and just recently became a member on the site. When offered, I will gladly donate.
CoX was my intro to MMOs and I have fond memories of the game and guildies on Virtue! I look forward to future adventures in game with everyone!
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Yay team! Very exciting!
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Speaking of which, who is it that wrote the Creator's Comment on today's page, who will be going to NYCC? Warcabbit? Kid Dynamo and/or Black Gold?
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It'sa ME!
But you don't care about that. You care about the character creator that's currently being uploaded so I can put it on the broken down old laptop.
Official Announcement up! There's a shiny pic in it!
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Warcabbit, am I misreading this quote is the Char Gen almost ready for public consumption or am I misreading things?
SSsssssssssort of. It's ready for people to poke it in public, with a supervising me, but we need to arrange distribution and patching of it, and we gotta do some anti-reverse-engineering stuff on it. And it's not _quite_ done - we're completely missing skirts right now, for example.
There's a lot more to 'done' than 'can we put the clothes on the peoples'.
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Gotcha! Glad to see folks at comic con get a 1st glimpse at it. Plus a nice publicity for the game. :)
Indeed! If you planned it that way, it was brilliant! If it just worked out, the Gaming Gods have smiled upon you. :)
Shocking Blu
Take/Make video!
Where is this Official Announcement and shiny?!
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https://cityoftitans.com/forum/special-alert-nycc-character-customizer-meet-cabbit-0
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I think the comments on "explore", "mark" and "badger" were talking about exploration badge designs.
"I am a dancer, a leaf in the wind...a leaf that can kick your butt!"
...is that...Dark Cleric??
Meh. Bah!
It is if you decide it is!
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What a tease! I Love it!
"A sad spectacle. If they be inhabited, what a scope for misery and folly. If they be not inhabited, what a waste of space." ~ Thomas Carlyle
I feel like I'm missing something...
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[url]https://cityoftitans.com/forum/special-alert-nycc-character-customizer-meet-cabbit-0[/url]
Well the gif does look a bit like your avatar... Probably a coincidence....
"A sad spectacle. If they be inhabited, what a scope for misery and folly. If they be not inhabited, what a waste of space." ~ Thomas Carlyle
Oh man that should have been so obvious. I feel like a dunce. That is actually very close to what Dark Cleric will look like in game! And definitely a coincidence...I only annoy the devs, they wouldn't make ME into a shiny XD it's ok though, I'm still going to throw my money at them during the 2nd Chance.
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Maybe they enjoy a certain amount of annoyance, if it's at least somewhat entertaining. :)
Shocking Blu
That was certainly my understanding.
Maybe they're putting you in the game as a villain. :-)
Spurn all ye kindle.
Will it the counter measures be in place for your NYCC visit? If it were me I wouldn't want to risk having the laptop stolen.
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I will be waiting with much annoyance until I can get my hands on Issue 0 and throw money at you. :p
Once Issue 0 launches, might I recommend reaching out to [url=http://checkpointradio.com/]Checkpoint Radio[/url]? They are a Esports and gaming radio show broadcasting in over 50 markets across the US and Canada. They'd be a good way to get more eyes on CoT.
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You make it sound like warcabbit's going to have the world's nuclear launch codes on his laptop. Somehow that sounds cool and ridiculous at the same time. ;)
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I am so excited. I can’t wait. Hearing Issue 0 is by the end of the year got me GIDDY. It’s way more than I was expecting and beyond my hopes and dreams! I’m already mentally preparing friends, family, and guild mates in my other games for my inevitable disappearance when things go live.
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Name: Safehouse
Ranger: Gunner
Primary: Force Blast
Secondary: Atrophic Aura
Tertiary: Kinetic Melee
Travel Power: Parkour
Status: Traveling. Following rumors of a huge city in Massachusetts that is teeming with supers.
Awesome news can't wait to see more info!
I've told my wife I will be taking a week's vacation when COT is released. She doesn't believe me...
"THE TITANS ARE COMING! THE TITANS ARE COMING!"
Same here. Once the go live date is announced I’m gonna be putting in my time off request.
Name: Safehouse
Ranger: Gunner
Primary: Force Blast
Secondary: Atrophic Aura
Tertiary: Kinetic Melee
Travel Power: Parkour
Status: Traveling. Following rumors of a huge city in Massachusetts that is teeming with supers.
Heh, mine does. She doesn't know what to expect, but she knows I got kinda obsessed with CoH... I guess she'll be okay with CoT as long as it doesn't interfere with family life too much. And we got a kid nowadays... but that's what Dynamic Duo is for right? :)
If all goes well I'll be flying around Titan City on saturday december 29 and most of that week. I'll see you guys there!
unless you get a frying pan to the back of the head :)
I can't afford to take all this time off that everybody else is talking about, but I am just as excited. :)
Shocking Blu
Time... off?
What is this thing you speak of?
Well, I just finished up 2 months of time off... unfortunately withOUT pay, so now that I'm employed again... no time off for awhile, until I can catch back up on bills. :/
Shocking Blu
Employment is good, but I was making a facetious comment about not having heard of such a thing as my wife and I have never taken a vacation. Ever. Some day, though. Some day.
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