eabrace wrote:

That appears to be quite a handy tool you've come up with. Nice work.
Big thumbs up for "Ascendent Ave", too - although I think it was previously spelled actually "Ascendant".
And for the sake of curiosity, is it "Ephesus" or "Eupheses" University? ;)

Ephesus University

If you click on "Welcome to Titan City" then "Alexandria" at the top, you'll get a little writeup of the various neighborhoods, including Ephesus.

Is the music done by Hellwreckage? Because I'm starting to pine for something akin to [b][i][url=https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Music]THIS PAGE[/url][/i][/b] that can be dumped into iTunes to give us a "sense" of the world you're inviting us to come inhabit next year. Be nice to have an online library of [b]TITAN MUSIC[/b] that can be added to piecemeal over time when Hellwreckage finishes up work on pieces hosted somewhere here on the site.

There's word of mouth ... and then there's word of music ...

Love it guys, I can't wait to move in.

This is huge. Between this and the avatar builder, to produce NPCs, I'm getting the sense that MWM will be able to produce new content at a pace that may be comparable to major studios.

Wait... you programmed something that builds the city for you. You took our requests for the feel and quality of the city and turned them into a utility that could make it all come true.

Man, this game isn't even out yet, and it should leave a mark on gaming history. I realize it may be presumptive to assume no one else has done this, but I've never seen this kind of result before. As a novice programmer, I salute you.

Just goes to show what happens when you find someone willing to say "Damn the Torpedos..."

Darth Fez wrote:

This is huge. Between this and the avatar builder, to produce NPCs, I'm getting the sense that MWM will be able to produce new content at a pace that may be comparable to major studios.

EXACTLY what I was thinking. One of the most exciting things about MWM and CoT is that they are positioning themselves to be able to crank out new content both fast AND well with a relatively small team.

Of course, the price paid is the up-front prep time. Which is why we are waiting patiently while the short-attention-span-theater-peanut-gallery full of Chicken-Little-Henny-Pennys are running around screaming "it's vaporware, it's vaporware"!

How's that for an unruly knot of references?

Lost Deep wrote:

Wait... you programmed something that builds the city for you. You took our requests for the feel and quality of the city and turned them into a utility that could make it all come true.

Man, I'm hoping the SG base builder is this cool.

Absolutely brilliant and looks great. It's taken awhile but rush not want not. Can't wait.

I had such a moment of longing, watching this! I miss our City! Running around exploring all the things; the Optimus Prime semi, the giant doughnut, the Mountie and his dog, Snape in the magic shop... Melting mobs around Perez with Hot Feet at 50, running for our lives when the giant mecha blew, screencapping hilarious ragdoll results, Hami raids, skiiing in Pocket D, getting turned into a black panther at Halloween, invasion pandemonium, getting badges, chatting with friends across the country... I even miss the terrible Oranbega maps.

This is an amazing tool, and the scope and speed and variety it grants you is impressive and inspiring! There are so many incredibly talented and dedicated people on this team! These updates definitely do give confidence that when the game comes out it will be all we're hoping for and more - super looking forward to 2018!

Nice building( material)s ... but they're composed of 90 degree corners everywhere. The demo doesn't show, although it implies, that you can do orientations other than perfect 90 degrees for things. Does it also include "rounded" features for objects/items in addition to the right angles?

We always used to joke about how Paragon City had all these gas guzzling cars everywhere and no gas stations (so they were [url=https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e8/Ford_Nucleon.jpg]nuclear powered[/url]?). There were also a FEW parking lots scattered around Paragon City, but never in any places that would be of any use to park in (hence why you saw all those civilians walking the streets). I'm thinking you'll need to include some [url=http://www.atlantadowntown.com/_files/images/150-carnegie-way.jpg]parking garage[/url] and [url=https://static1.squarespace.com/static/537e0c54e4b08c8df4925711/538732b3e4b0f6a71c881545/53873355e4b00c6a0d2cafcb/1401369549376/Metropolitan+Fin+Ctr+2249crop.jpg]surface lot parking[/url] features in association with some buildings/areas. Granted, you can also include underground parking lot features for some of the higher density buildings/skyscrapers (and I strongly recommend that you do), but then you need to account for internal spacing of features and not just a solid/opaque exterior.

I trust that your Builder tool is allowing you to assign Mission Door status to features so that they can be used to transport PCs to either the building interior (if it has one) or to an Instance Map?

Lin Chiao Feng wrote:

Ready to crank out a template-generated wiki with me again when this launches next year? ^_-

Oh, those were the days. Where did I ever find that much free time? :D

Man I'm so glad I found you guys. You guys are great giving us these great updates unlike Valance Online which hasn't had an update for ages. This is already looking better then any open world game I ever played and you guys still have quite a ways to go before Titan City is habitable. One day the heroes of my imagination will reside in Titan City and will accomplish wonders. I believe you guys won't disappoint us.

This was a great update. Thanks. That music track was killer. Loved that guitar riff

Awesome update!

I noticed, in the video, that when you were putting things on the building you could see the bits being moved reflected in the windows, but when Odo was running around there was a reflection but not of him.

It's been discussed before how reflective surfaces in older games use a bit of trickery to "bake in" reflections.

Will be be able to see our own reflections in windows and mirrors in the final product?

Not that I'm a narcissist or anything...

I just love the hybrid between build from scratch then cut cookies vs assembly. And the video does actually look like the buildings are similar, sharing history, but not identical.

Obviously more notable buildings will be made from scratch I'm sure.

warcabbit wrote:

We promised the backers who contributed to the kickstarter a virtual CD of Hellwreckage's music. We're two finished tracks away from the first volume, and we'll be putting it up as soon as it's ready.
I'd love to just put up a free page of them for everyone, but we committed to this, and we need to follow our commitments.
The good news is it should be somewhere in the vicinity of soon.

Soon or "Soon™"?

Either way, excellent news.

Great video, I forwarded it to a non-COH friend and he was impressed. Despite the time lapse it seems that the whole thing was done in a couple of hours with a break for lunch. I'd be down for seeing a video of a new block being built every couple weeks. Or perhaps a longer video tracing a building from beginning to game world. It seems the buildings in that video were not quite complete.

Have you been using google maps images for design? Like given a 6 story mixed use building what items are on top of it. I couldn't help but notice that there were only 3 heat exchangers sized for a much smaller buildings on top of the primary building. Maybe that works...

warcabbit wrote:

Couple of hours? Oh, no. That entire video was fourteen minutes long before compression.

That says so much more than many people even expected or hoped for.

Unfortunately, that also makes me want to start playing even sooner. I have free time this weekend, btw. ;)

*is totes streaming Right now: https://www.twitch.tv/cloganart *

warcabbit wrote:

Couple of hours? Oh, no. That entire video was fourteen minutes long before compression.

Nice. You guys can move fast on this stuff.

I would echo the earlier post in that I could watch this kind of update every month. It's fascinating to watch how things get built, gives me a sense of the world, and builds my anticipation.

Sooo excited. Your tools look more fun to play with than a lot of games.

I wish you could re use the music from Yin's coming from one of the shops in the building tool vid. But it looks like the neighborhoods will have a flavor that will become just as nostalgic.

Empyrean wrote:

Darth Fez wrote:
This is huge. Between this and the avatar builder, to produce NPCs, I'm getting the sense that MWM will be able to produce new content at a pace that may be comparable to major studios.
EXACTLY what I was thinking. One of the most exciting things about MWM and CoT is that they are positioning themselves to be able to crank out new content both fast AND well with a relatively small team.
Of course, the price paid is the up-front prep time. Which is why we are waiting patiently while the short-attention-span-theater-peanut-gallery full of Chicken-Little-Henny-Pennys are running around screaming "it's vaporware, it's vaporware"!
How's that for an unruly knot of references?

Here's something to keep in mind. There are two aspects of building this game that are going on at the same. You have the teams that are working on software, hardware, coding, etc. to make a playable game. You also have teams that are churning along and developing city, character and mission content. As part of the composition team I have worked on quite a lot of it and my contribution is but a drop in the bucket.

Simply put there will be a tremendous amount of content.

Beeker wrote:

warcabbit wrote:
We promised the backers who contributed to the kickstarter a virtual CD of Hellwreckage's music. We're two finished tracks away from the first volume, and we'll be putting it up as soon as it's ready.
I'd love to just put up a free page of them for everyone, but we committed to this, and we need to follow our commitments.
The good news is it should be somewhere in the vicinity of soon.
I'm curious if others would be able to purchase the tracks/compilation at some point. I could use music like this for my commute.
I also like Redlynne's suggestion for advertising but if you're giving this to backers for "free", I suppose that might not be appropriate... However, perhaps a limited/different compilation for share/advert would be alright? I think the community is intellegent enough to understand the difference.
-Beek
(Apologies if this info is elsewhere and I missed it.)

I remember a similar situation coming up on the old forums where shinies from the DVD collector editions of the game were literally only available to, that's right you guessed it, the people who bought them. There were... vocal minorities on the forums that felt ALL players should have access to exclusive items, therefore removing the exclusivity and potentially reducing the value of the collector editions.

As someone who purchased all collector editions of the game, I had honestly zero fux to give about the exclusivity of items.

Similarly as a backer, I will have access to this soundtrack but honestly don't care if it's made available to the general playerbase for consumption, either for free or for purchase, because I didn't back the game for the shinies. I did it because I want to play a goddamn superhero/villain in the vein of CoX.

Planet10 wrote:

Cobalt Azurean wrote:
As someone who purchased all collector editions of the game, I had honestly zero fux to give about the exclusivity of items.
I feel similarly, the perks are interesting, but I just want to play the game. The rub is that MVM made that promise and they need to live up to it.

I agree that promises should be upheld, and if they're two finished tracks away from the first volume, it would appear that they are close to following through on it.

warcabbit wrote:

Couple of hours? Oh, no. That entire video was fourteen minutes long before compression.

Just out of curiosity, can someone there estimate about how much time it would have taken to build all of that from scratch as static objects (the other method mentioned before)?

Personally I can't really imagine that it would have taken that much less time though that depends on exactly where "from scratch" starts (pretty sure it still includes re-using "partial objects") but it would most likely prove a point. Invest heavily in upfront costs (the creation of these tools) to save loads down the line (much easier to create diverse content, and only needing to build new components instead of whole objects).

KidDynamo wrote:

Here's something to keep in mind. There are two aspects of building this game that are going on at the same. You have the teams that are working on software, hardware, coding, etc. to make a playable game. You also have teams that are churning along and developing city, character and mission content. As part of the composition team I have worked on quite a lot of it and my contribution is but a drop in the bucket.
Simply put there will be a tremendous amount of content.

And that's just the, what, first 30 levels and half of the city?

creating procedural buildings using top view, can have a courtyard! :)

tweet: https://twitter.com/MindwalkerGames/status/835896954815045632
video: https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/C5mx0ojUoAEx7GP.mp4

Am I correct in assuming that you can alternate between your automated builder and manual editing on the same building?

warcabbit wrote:

Base building... we've got something more interesting going on there, and you'll first see it as part of the mission builder.

ooooo....coool!

https://cityoftitans.com/forum/where-we-stand-builder

It seems someone forgot to link to the update being discussed in the discussion. ^_^

As someone who asked for a radio station Mogul building, I can tell you that from what I've gleaned that they are basically not going to start with K or W to avoid any legal problems. I had wanted WASD for mine, and I tihnk I;m getting some combination of those 4 letters, just not with the W as the first letter. I'm fine with that. So maybe MEOW would be good?

Any sort of abbreviated version of Titan/Titan City could lead to uncomfortable references or nicknames, as well, so some care is needed.

TTN Broadcasting?

CTTN? PHNX?

Be Well!
Fireheart

Radiac wrote:

As someone who asked for a radio station Mogul building, I can tell you that from what I've gleaned that they are basically not going to start with K or W to avoid any legal problems. I had wanted WASD for mine, and I tihnk I;m getting some combination of those 4 letters, just not with the W as the first letter. I'm fine with that. So maybe MEOW would be good?

So we couldn't do like CoV and use 5 letters (WSPDR)?

[img]https://lparchive.org/City-of-Heroes/Update%2031/5-screenshot_121108-16-52-39.jpg[/img]

Grimfox wrote:

Dark Ether wrote:
Any sort of abbreviated version of Titan/Titan City could lead to uncomfortable references or nicknames, as well, so some care is needed.
So you aren't a fan of tee-eye-tee-sea FM?

I didn't say I would be bothered by it, just that things could get awkward really fast.

Doctor Tyche wrote:

Dark Ether wrote:
I think anything starting with a K or a W is out, because those are used for actual broadcast station call letters. It's much safer to go with a T(something) or whatever.
The "not a real station" code is Q, I will note.

Then we need to pick QUTE Radio, obv.

Dark Ether wrote:

I think anything starting with a K or a W is out, because those are used for actual broadcast station call letters.

Almost all prefixes are used for real station call letters [i]somewhere[/i]. W, K, and N are the prefixes used in the US. Q is an exception, however, their 'availability" is questionable because they're used for [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_code]Q-codes[/url], so your station prefix would be mistaken for one of these 3-letter codes. [url=http://www.dxing.com/callsign.htm]Other letters are used around the world.[/url]

My suggestion is based on both CoV precedent, and the fact that [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_sign#Broadcasting]the US has not assigned five-letter call signs to broadcast stations[/url] and is highly unlikely to do so during the game's lifetime.

So I'd recommend WASDX.

WMWMW - the station that kerns around the globe!