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Superboy/Wonder Girl Inspired Character

Happy New Year All!

I was thinking, out of all the possible character archetypes and ideas, I don’t seem to have a set Brick, or superhuman strength/durability using hero on my Titans Roster.

To change that, I was thinking of making some kind of homage to heroes like Superboy and Wondergirl, younger heroes who have a legacy component perhaps and while they have and work with a mentor, can still pack a punch.

I had an idea for a Grecian/Roman theme due to Titan City most likely being their place of origin and plenty of inspiration from mythology, but I’m open to all types of suggestions.

So, thoughts?

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Something based on Heracles

Something based on Heracles might work. He's a typical strongman.

Could also go with any of the greek gods/godessess, if they were some kind of demi god they'd likely be at least stronger and more durable than mere mortals. Could use the god's domain for an idea of some tertiary powers, like picking up some lightning bolts from zeus, or some sort of energy bow+arrows from artimes.

Thinking about it a character who's like Vixen but instead of animal powers gains powers of greek gods would be interesting, though not what you're looking for and also really hard to make in a class based game.

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Project_Hero wrote:
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Could also go with any of the greek gods/godessess, if they were some kind of demi god they'd likely be at least stronger and more durable than mere mortals. Could use the god's domain for an idea of some tertiary powers, like picking up some lightning bolts from zeus, or some sort of energy bow+arrows from artimes.

Kind of like Percy Jackson? ;)

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Could also go with any of the greek gods/godessess, if they were some kind of demi god they'd likely be at least stronger and more durable than mere mortals. Could use the god's domain for an idea of some tertiary powers, like picking up some lightning bolts from zeus, or some sort of energy bow+arrows from artimes.

Kind of like Percy Jackson? ;)

Is it? Never read/watched.

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Project_Hero wrote:
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Could also go with any of the greek gods/godessess, if they were some kind of demi god they'd likely be at least stronger and more durable than mere mortals. Could use the god's domain for an idea of some tertiary powers, like picking up some lightning bolts from zeus, or some sort of energy bow+arrows from artimes.

Artemis?

Shazam was supposed to be an amalgam of Gods and Heroes. If you go with Roman myth, remember that most of them were just re-skins of Greek and Turkish deities.

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So, first, read Wearing The

So, first, read Wearing The Cape. (That link is to the special edition, with more editing and some illustrations.) Then, while you're attempting to not read all the sequels and the side story, consider what if anything you want to lift from Astra when making your hero. ^_^

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Fireheart wrote:
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artimes.

Artemis?

Dats der bunny. I got the I and E switched around.

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Something based on Heracles might work. He's a typical strongman.

Could also go with any of the greek gods/godessess, if they were some kind of demi god they'd likely be at least stronger and more durable than mere mortals. Could use the god's domain for an idea of some tertiary powers, like picking up some lightning bolts from zeus, or some sort of energy bow+arrows from artimes.

Thinking about it a character who's like Vixen but instead of animal powers gains powers of greek gods would be interesting, though not what you're looking for and also really hard to make in a class based game.

Maybe instead of a Greco or Roman god, I could go Turkish maybe? But in terms of relating to the Greek or Roman theme, would a name like Argonaut work, or maybe Trojan?

What are some deities you think he could pull from?

And outside of the deity role, maybe some type of accidental empowerment or protege of an existing powered hero?

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Well, if you want to go deity

Well, if you want to go deity route, why go for one of those? Go the child or descendant of Jesus!

Allah maybe?

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Go older: Gilgamesh, the

Go older: Gilgamesh, the first hero.

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I was also thinking a mentor

I was also thinking a mentor/hero partnership from the Hindu pantheon would be interesting too, perhaps the fire diety Agni?

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Definitely wouldn't name a

Definitely wouldn't name a teen hero "Trojan" especially if it was a guy.

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They have sports teams called

They have sports teams called the Trojans. It works for them.

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Definitely wouldn't name a teen hero "Trojan" especially if it was a guy.

I had two thoughts when I read this. First, in keeping with all the Greek god stuff, the Trojan horse. Then I lol’d as “Trojan Maaaaann!” from the commercials popped into my head.

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Hmmm, maybe something

Hmmm, maybe something reminiscent of Achilles then?

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Hector?

Hector?

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Hector?

Hmmm, explain?

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Hector v. Achilles, The Beach

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Maybe like,

Maybe like,

Wonder Girl part is that shes magical origin and may consist of some certain magical abilities.

Superboy part that she/he is super strong and resilient to any damages created from an energy field.

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Hector?

Hmmm, explain?

I'm a little bit of a mythology geek, so I know that Achilles was not alone out there. Hector and Ajax were also at the big fight over the hot chick. Hector was one of the Trojan champions who fought both of the others.

Wasn't Superboy's powerset 'Tactile Telekinesis'? He could move things he was touching? Thus, he could pick up that car, without just ripping the bumper off. Artists, re-writing physics, to defend their unrealistic drawings.

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Wasn't Superboy's powerset 'Tactile Telekinesis'? He could move things he was touching? Thus, he could pick up that car, without just ripping the bumper off. Artists, re-writing physics, to defend their unrealistic drawings.

This sort of sounds like what Lucas tried to do when he came up with midichlorians to "rationalize" how the Force worked in Star Wars. Sometimes it's far better to simply leave these things vague/mysterious rather than to try to come up with pseudo-realistic explanations that are just far more silly than the things they are trying to explain. ;)

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Wasn't Superboy's powerset 'Tactile Telekinesis'? He could move things he was touching? Thus, he could pick up that car, without just ripping the bumper off. Artists, re-writing physics, to defend their unrealistic drawings.

This sort of sounds like what Lucas tried to do when he came up with midichlorians to "rationalize" how the Force worked in Star Wars. Sometimes it's far better to simply leave these things vague/mysterious rather than to try to come up with pseudo-realistic explanations that are just far more silly than the things they are trying to explain. ;)

Yeah, this character would be a bit more of a traditional brick like Young Justice Superboy with the personality of say Titans Donna Troy.

I like the name Olympian or Anchilles, but I’m still struggling with a source of empowerment for them, I kind of want something more along the silver or Bronze Age of comics.

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Say she maybe is empowered by

Say she maybe is empowered by a magical dimensional gate force that she taps into the magically enhance her to give her these amazing powers.

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I like the name Olympian.

I like the name Olympian.

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What kind of possible powers

What kind of possible powers do you see or imagine for a kind of mid tier sidekick character like this?

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For a mid-tier sidekick? It's

For a mid-tier sidekick? It's a bit hard to imagine but when you look at other heroes like Wonder Woman and Superman, you see them as godly level heroes that can take any problems with just a spit. But for mid-tier sidekicks, they are like 30-40 times weaker than the actual hero they idolize. So Superboy could lift 90 tons or something, Superman can drag a planet around. So for their powers, it might stay as super strength and durability and give enough limit to know that "I may be strong, but not as strong as my mentor."

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Using the name Olympian I

Using the name Olympian I imagine someone with super strength, probably equivalent to spiderman or slightly above, super durable, and possibly super agile.

Their strong, tough, and quick.

Maybe with super leaping too because not enough characters do that.

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Project_Hero wrote:
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Using the name Olympian I imagine someone with super strength, probably equivalent to spiderman or slightly above, super durable, and possibly super agile.

Their strong, tough, and quick.

Maybe with super leaping too because not enough characters do that.

I like that concept and idea-thoughts on their mentor’s name/powers or their origin?

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Excellent series...I have all

Excellent series...I have all of them and the RPG (based on the FATE system), and he liked my version of Mighty Mite.

As to the OP:

1) were you possibly thinking this character may be a demi-god, or a hero with gear that elevates them beyond the norm granted them by the gods (ala The Protector for the the Full Metal Superhero series)

2) Are you dedicated to the Greco-Roman theme, or are you willing to branch out? For instance the Norse gods; Ymir and Sutur adhere strongly to the Titan archetypes, and using this you may choose to go with Magni or Modi, Thor's sons, though Thrud, his daughter, is an option too.

3)You could go with a science based hero, or power armored hero (see the series in question 1), who chooses to theme themselves around the old mythology?

4) For an added layer of fun, you could have your hero be a clone created from a sample grabbed from one of the gods (how that was done is up to you)

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Culach wrote:
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Excellent series...I have all of them and the RPG (based on the FATE system), and he liked my version of Mighty Mite.

Umm, which series mentioned above were you referring to here? I only know of one with an RPG built on the Fate system, but that may just be my ignorance ^_^.

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I really like that clone

I really like that clone angle Culach suggested.

Perhaps the hero's mentor is like Zues, Ares, or Apollo, or whichever god/goddess youd like. But like Marvel's Thor they claim to be/are actually litteral Gods.

Then someone attempted to clone them and, like with Superboy, made the clone part human. A genetic, scientifically crafted Demi-God.

Possibly a bad guy did it, but what I think would be more interesting is if it was done with permission, by a scientist friend/ally of the mentor. Then your character has a family, that isn't your typical family at all.

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Project_Hero wrote:
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I really like that clone angle Culach suggested.

Perhaps the hero's mentor is like Zues, Ares, or Apollo, or whichever god/goddess youd like. But like Marvel's Thor they claim to be/are actually litteral Gods.

Then someone attempted to clone them and, like with Superboy, made the clone part human. A genetic, scientifically crafted Demi-God.

Possibly a bad guy did it, but what I think would be more interesting is if it was done with permission, by a scientist friend/ally of the mentor. Then your character has a family, that isn't your typical family at all.

Hmmm, perhaps a clone of say Athena or Apollo? Ideas on powers and backstory?

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They could litterally be the

They could litterally be the gods, or some form of mortal reincarnation of them.

As for powers, as gods (or close enough) super strength, super durability, super reflexes/speed are pretty standard.
Apollo would likely fly maybe have some kind of heat aura generation (so he can glow like the sun).
Athena is a bit trickier, I'm not sure how best to encapsulate wisdom, maybe she can see into the future a bit (it's easy to look wise when you know what's coming)?

I'll think more on it and post if I come up with anything.

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Excellent series...I have all of them and the RPG (based on the FATE system), and he liked my version of Mighty Mite.

Umm, which series mentioned above were you referring to here? I only know of one with an RPG built on the Fate system, but that may just be my ignorance ^_^.

Wearing the Cape has an RPG based on it that uses the FATE System as its base.

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Project_Hero wrote:
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They could litterally be the gods, or some form of mortal reincarnation of them.

As for powers, as gods (or close enough) super strength, super durability, super reflexes/speed are pretty standard.
Apollo would likely fly maybe have some kind of heat aura generation (so he can glow like the sun).
Athena is a bit trickier, I'm not sure how best to encapsulate wisdom, maybe she can see into the future a bit (it's easy to look wise when you know what's coming)?

I'll think more on it and post if I come up with anything.

I wouldn't say that she can see into the future, divination of that sort was Apollo's sphere, but she would be EXCELLENT at pattern recognition which would give her a leg up in any confrontation at a strategic and tactical level. She is the chessmaster playing 50 moves ahead of you and because she knows the moves you can make and is making decisions based on that.

Essentially, she has seen it all before and knows how you will most likely react. This leaves open some room for error, which allows her to not be so perfect that she is unbeatable.

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Basic Power load out for Gods

Basic Power load out for Gods of MOST pantheons:

1. Durability - they all seem to be tougher than standard humans, but not always tougher than enhanced humans.

2. Strength - same as durability

3. Longevity/Immortality - Either they live longer than standard human, usually by millennia, or just don't age after a certain point.

4. Lore - for some reason, most have more information about what is really going on, even if they don't know everything

After those it breaks down to the individual Gods:

Apollo:
1. Fire and light control - he is the god of the sun, this would seem to be an essential minimum

2. Divination - He was the god of prophecy and divination, he should be able to see the future to some extent

3. Music - Apollo was one of the gods of music and would likely be able to use it in traditional bard ways (inspiration, terror, depression and so forth)

4. Chariot of the Sun - Apollo does not fly, he rides across the sky in his Sun chariot Sol

5. Archery - Second among the gods only to Artemis, his sister

6. Healing - Apollo is one of the gods of Healing; Mercury stole the Caduceus (the symbol of healing/medicine) from him.

7. Truth - as a god of Truth, he most likely has either an ability or an object that can force it from someone.

8. Seduction - He is the god of sex, this seems obvious.

9. Intelligence/Logic - areas of influence.

Athena:
1. Strategist/Tactician - Artemis supposedly was able to beat Ares regularly because she was able to use her head while he was in a near berserker mode.

2. Pattern Recognition - As a goddess of wisdom, weaving (and spiders), she is likely able to predict what others are about to do because she has seen it all before and she feeds that info right back into her strategy and tactics. This would also make her a good investigator since her deductive skills would be incredibly high.

3. Crafts - She was one of the gods who were in charge of crafts, Hephaestus being the other.

4. Politics - She is one THE goddess of cities, particularly Athens, birthplace of democracy, and would likely be an excellent politician.

5. Hand to Hand - She is one of the gods of War, and her skill exceeded that of Ares, though she lacked his strength and durability.

6. Aegis - Athena's shield, this would make up for the lack of durability she suffered against Ares. Considered to be the greatest of the godly shields. She also wears armor that she probably crafted herself.

7. Spear - Athena's spear is one of her symbols and would likely have been crafted with special abilities.

8. Helmet - Another of her symbols, her helmet also likely has special abilities, though likely NOT invisibility as shown in a few movies.

9. Intelligence - this just seems obvious when looking back over her areas of influence.

Personality wise:
Both were full of hubris, but Apollo seems like he might have had more of a surfer's attitude as opposed to the more businesslike Athena.

These are just some jumping off points

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Culach wrote:
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Basic Power load out for Gods of MOST pantheons:

1. Durability - they all seem to be tougher than standard humans, but not always tougher than enhanced humans.

2. Strength - same as durability

3. Longevity/Immortality - Either they live longer than standard human, usually by millennia, or just don't age after a certain point.

4. Lore - for some reason, most have more information about what is really going on, even if they don't know everything

After those it breaks down to the individual Gods:

Apollo:
1. Fire and light control - he is the god of the sun, this would seem to be an essential minimum

2. Divination - He was the god of prophecy and divination, he should be able to see the future to some extent

3. Music - Apollo was one of the gods of music and would likely be able to use it in traditional bard ways (inspiration, terror, depression and so forth)

4. Chariot of the Sun - Apollo does not fly, he rides across the sky in his Sun chariot Sol

5. Archery - Second among the gods only to Artemis, his sister

6. Healing - Apollo is one of the gods of Healing; Mercury stole the Caduceus (the symbol of healing/medicine) from him.

7. Truth - as a god of Truth, he most likely has either an ability or an object that can force it from someone.

8. Seduction - He is the god of sex, this seems obvious.

9. Intelligence/Logic - areas of influence.

Athena:
1. Strategist/Tactician - Artemis supposedly was able to beat Ares regularly because she was able to use her head while he was in a near berserker mode.

2. Pattern Recognition - As a goddess of wisdom, weaving (and spiders), she is likely able to predict what others are about to do because she has seen it all before and she feeds that info right back into her strategy and tactics. This would also make her a good investigator since her deductive skills would be incredibly high.

3. Crafts - She was one of the gods who were in charge of crafts, Hephaestus being the other.

4. Politics - She is one THE goddess of cities, particularly Athens, birthplace of democracy, and would likely be an excellent politician.

5. Hand to Hand - She is one of the gods of War, and her skill exceeded that of Ares, though she lacked his strength and durability.

6. Aegis - Athena's shield, this would make up for the lack of durability she suffered against Ares. Considered to be the greatest of the godly shields. She also wears armor that she probably crafted herself.

7. Spear - Athena's spear is one of her symbols and would likely have been crafted with special abilities.

8. Helmet - Another of her symbols, her helmet also likely has special abilities, though likely NOT invisibility as shown in a few movies.

9. Intelligence - this just seems obvious when looking back over her areas of influence.

Personality wise:
Both were full of hubris, but Apollo seems like he might have had more of a surfer's attitude as opposed to the more businesslike Athena.

These are just some jumping off points

With those base powers/abilities being outlined, how could you see them possibly being rolled into a teen character?

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With those base powers/abilities being outlined, how could you see them possibly being rolled into a teen character?

The ancient Greek/Roman and Norse peoples imagined their gods as super-human, rather than as abstract forces. So, we get Zeus the all-powerful god of the sky and everything, who is also an incredible horn-dog who just Cannot keep in under his toga. Half of his sexual escapades spawned heroes, but the other half spawned Monsters.

So, these gods are just like humans, only more so. More 'Olympian' - Stronger, Faster, Higher, (Sexier). And prone to the typical human failings. Of all of them, only Athena/Minerva is noted as being Smarter, Wiser, or more Disciplined. The ancients knew that all of the gods were insane, to some extent, because just look around at the World and the Kaos and Entropy found there. Apollo saw that Diana/Artemis, his twin sister was thinking about losing her virginity with her boyfriend, Orion, so he tricked her into shooting at the fellow's head, while he was swimming.

So, for an 'Olympian' character, you'd get an 'ubermensch', just like a human, only enhanced. Stronger, Faster, Cleverer, Tougher, Drunker, Madder.

"Fall in lust with the King's hot wife, so kill the king and convince the queen to marry you (or else), only to discover that was your Dad and this is your Mom, so you rip your own eyes out, in horror and remorse." That's a very Olympian tale. Soap Opera and Melodrama.

I'd suggest, for a 'child of the gods' character, that you decide what kind of character you want to play (Fighter/Wizard/Cleric/Theif) or whatever other Archetype suits your fancy. Then give them +10 on those characteristics that you like the most and go from there. For backstory, they should be a little 'larger than life'. Give them some 'ancient master' to train them in the arts they'll need. Centaurs are popular, but everything from undead spirits to ancient witches, to warriors of old, have been used. Then turn your young Heracles the Mage loose on the city and hope they don't step in the Hubris or get eaten by a Grue.

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Excellent series...I have all of them and the RPG (based on the FATE system), and he liked my version of Mighty Mite.

Umm, which series mentioned above were you referring to here? I only know of one with an RPG built on the Fate system, but that may just be my ignorance ^_^.

Wearing the Cape has an RPG based on it that uses the FATE System as its base.

Yes, that's the one I know of. I wasn't sure, so I thought I'd ask for clarification. ^_^

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