This brings a couple thoughts to mind:

Wall crawlers would have a potential advantage over the superspeeedsters; while they will be slower, they can afford to take their time.

If the building has ledges or balconies then the speedsters can stop to rest. Although a balcony might not provide enough room to get a good speed going to continue upwards...

More boosts might also mean a higher angle you can climb without worrying about this. Anyone can climb a shallow enough slope depending on how much traction it provides, over that angle only speedsters and wall-crawlers can get higher than a jump. But maybe the speed boosts increase this maximum angle, so that what ordinary folks couldn't climb at all, the speedster with enough boosts can run up as if it was a gentle slope.

I don't think we want even the maxxed out speedsters to be able to climb vertical walls indefinitely, but they should be able to get to the top of all but perhaps the tallest buildings.

A geodesic dome would be easier: near vertical at the base, but the slope gets shallower as you go up, until you can consider it an ordinary runnable surface.

Traditional Glass Mountains count as much steeper than the angle would indicate ^_^

Also, sticking to CoH inspired and comics themselves. Lots of super speedsters can get enough traction without a running start.

Well, the balance between realism and fantasy in all aspects of comic books is an art, and sometimes writers get it right and sometimes we don't, but I think when it comes to movement it has a lot to do with it feeling intuitively right and the ability to rationalize it with at least internally consistent logic.

For example, there was a discussion about the ability to move in SJ, and it seemed to be the consensus that while some ability to alter course in air was necessary to make it a viable travel power, intuitively keeping that to a minimum--since it is not possible without outside thrust of some sort in real life--was more intuitive.

With super speed, just moving fast wouldn't give you any particular ability to cling to a surface and you would only go as far as momentum carried you--unless you brought in COMIC BOOK SUPER SCIENCE and rationalized that your movement created a super-static charge or some such thing that allowed you to cling to surfaces.

Either could be supported as a choice by the devs as long as it was either handled well intuitively or well rationalized.

My personal preferences--Flight a la DCUO so you don't feel like a blimp, good ole CoH SJ, good ole CoH SS, swinging like CO, Acrobatics with Wall Crawling like DCUO except without the grappling hook or rocket glide but with a mini SJ to make up for it (kind of like Ninja Run plus wall crawling). Ad in effects like a "slide" and/or vehicle option, etc. to make them concept friendly and most iconic Superhero travel is covered.

SJ has an option to look like Ice Man's ice chutes, Acrobatics can look like some kind of energy slide, SS can look like a motorcycle, flight can look like surfing on electricity or a Green Goblinesque flying wing, etc.

PS- OH! Teleport. Hmmm. CoH Teleport was tricky, but in the end cooler than the CO version, I think.

ravonos wrote:

Empyrean wrote:
Well, the balance between realism and fantasy in all aspects of comic books is an art, and sometimes writers get it right and sometimes we don't, but I think when it comes to movement it has a lot to do with it feeling intuitively right and the ability to rationalize it with at least internally consistent logic.
For example, there was a discussion about the ability to move in SJ, and it seemed to be the consensus that while some ability to alter course in air was necessary to make it a viable travel power, intuitively keeping that to a minimum--since it is not possible without outside thrust of some sort in real life--was more intuitive.
With super speed, just moving fast wouldn't give you any particular ability to cling to a surface and you would only go as far as momentum carried you--unless you brought in COMIC BOOK SUPER SCIENCE and rationalized that your movement created a super-static charge or some such thing that allowed you to cling to surfaces.
Either could be supported as a choice by the devs as long as it was either handled well intuitively or well rationalized.

I didn't look through the thread about SJ but the problem with that logic is that it doesn't extend to your logic about SS. If you are running at Super Speeds, you shouldn't also be allowed to stop instantly, there needs to be a period of decreasing speed. If you stopped instantly momentum would throw you forward off of your feet and likely send you tumbling down the asphalt to your death. Having the ability to stop on a dime is the same as moving around in the air while jumping. Actually jumping you have a set destination and you know exactly how far and how hard to jump, Super Jumping requires the ability to choose where you land and movement in the air is, in my opinion the best option for that. Sorry to derail the thread.

Well, first, I wouldn't say you derailed the thread. I'd say you brought it back around to the original topic--SS and running up walls.

And second, I totally agree with you, and if logic, even logic that is only consistent internally, doesn't cut it in a Superhero comic setting, then you need SUPER SCIENCE, or MAGIC, or somesuch to explain why you can change direction in mid air or stop on a dime--ie, "I can jump great distances and change direction because I have the mutant power of complete mastery over the kinetic energy and momentum of my body!" or "I have super speed because I can put myself slightly out-of-phase with this universe's time!", or "I can fly because... magic, that's why", or whatever.

But I do personally think that in general keeping things feeling intuitive is best, and being able to run and jump forward and then continue your "jump" in circling spirals in the air is less intuitive for someone who is supposed to be just super strong and jumping--but it could also be absolutely be valid in a comic book setting, as could running up a wall or stopping from supersonic speed on a dime.

And we can argue it infinity because it's all made up and It's all just creative choices. I have my personal preferences, but that's all they are. It'll come down to what the devs decide.