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Super intelligent GORRILLA. Every comic universe has them.

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Super intelligent GORRILLA. Every comic universe has them.

DC has a whole city full of them.
some are villains some are scientific geniuses.
Even chimps get in on the action, like the Chimp Detective. Mojp JoJo is the only one I liked.

MWM has not mentioned anything about intelligent apes. If they are intent on a smart Gorilla, I think we should help them come up with something really unique.

What is a different kind of intelligent ape we could use in the game? We have a dog for a cop, how about a gorilla lawyer?
I'm stuck at the moment. Be creative.

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Gorilla librarian, sort of

Gorilla librarian, sort of like the librarian for the Unseen University, Anhk-Morpork, Discworld.

He, or she (I believe in equal opportunity super intelligent primates), could give missions.

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That reminds me, can we make

That reminds me, can we make explicitly non-human characters? I mean, the gorilla is the prime example. It would allow us to create our own Grodds (if villain) or Winstons (if hero) and that would be cool.

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Ook.

Ook.

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The Hybrid wrote:
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That reminds me, can we make explicitly non-human characters? I mean, the gorilla is the prime example. It would allow us to create our own Grodds (if villain) or Winstons (if hero) and that would be cool.

We'll probably initally get the "parts" to create things like humanoid-shaped werewolves and hawk-head people. But everything like that is still going to be based on the standard human male and female body model. The Devs have said they'd like to eventually offer non-humanoid body models but those will likely come well after launch.

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Lothic wrote:
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The Hybrid wrote:

That reminds me, can we make explicitly non-human characters? I mean, the gorilla is the prime example. It would allow us to create our own Grodds (if villain) or Winstons (if hero) and that would be cool.

We'll probably initally get the "parts" to create things like humanoid-shaped werewolves and hawk-head people. But everything like that is still going to be based on the standard human male and female body model. The Devs have said they'd like to eventually offer non-humanoid body models but those will likely come well after launch.

Primates could probably be doable with appropriate lengths on limbs and a stance for it, though a more proper body would be preferable.

As for other body types like 4-legged, 6-legged, no-legged (naga/lamia), and so on I remember them saying it would be a fairly big financial burden since not only do they need to go back and adjust/fix most existing animations and costume pieces but it increases the cost for many/most new ones as well. I do hope we'll get this later one, both taur and "feral" forms, since I would love to make an actual wolf or lion pack instead of being "just a handler" of one (even if in were-animal form).

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Intelligent Lemure heros that

Intelligent Lemur heros that hypnotize people with those crazy boggle eyes and distracting tails.

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Beeker wrote:
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Intelligent Lemur heros that hypnotize people with those crazy boggle eyes and distracting tails.

I would create a Morty-eqsue character in a microsecond...



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Zoo-Force!

Zoo-Force!

I'll be the Horse(faced) taxi-driver that carries them around town.

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It's Morty! Hi,Morty!

It's Morty! Hi,Morty!

That's El Muerte!

(Please excuse the derailment)

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Gorilla Window Washer. For

Gorilla Window Washer. For those high rise buildings. Just so I could use this classic homage.

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Fireheart wrote:
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Zoo-Force!

I'll be the Horse(faced) taxi-driver that carries them around town.

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Zoo-Force reminds me immediately of this...

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Well with how the character

Well with how the character creator is going to be, I don't really think we would need a separate body type to make a gorilla. All we really need is a gorilla type face or primate face to make any type of primate we want.

not my video just one I lke ===> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6-SdIN0hsM

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Perhaps a stance/locomotion

Perhaps a stance/locomotion rig.

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Champions have Dr Silverback.

Champions have Dr Silverback. The only problem with him is that he is TOO competent. He monitors multiple disaster zones simultaneously while also doing research and curing illnesses. He's smart as Mr fantastic and level-headed as Cap. They didn't build him with any character flaws. Looking different doesn't count as a token character flaw, unless you're really vain, so it's just lazy writing.

So... if it's a gorilla librarian, like project-hero said, make it be a librarian because it's anti-social and frankly prefers books to people, and doesn't understand or want to take the time to understand people.

If it's a gorilla lawyer, like the OP, maybe the lawyer takes cases for gorilla-based villains and uses legal loopholes to get them acquitted, but if it's a gorilla-based victim of a regular villain, he switches to prosecutor and uses whatever means necessary to get a conviction (including blackmailing the defense). In other words, its extreme bias for other ape-people causes it to behave unethically when one is involved in the case.

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The thing about my Gorilla

The thing about my Gorilla librarian is they wouldn't even be a super hero. They'd just be an intelligent gorilla librarian quest giver.

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You know this reminds me of a

You know this reminds me of a concept I had for CoT, The guy was basically an uplifted monkey who managed to kill his abusive mad scientist creator and then turn his whole "Take over the world operation" into an "Arms dealer for villains operation"

not my video just one I lke ===> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6-SdIN0hsM

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notears wrote:
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You know this reminds me of a concept I had for CoT, The guy was basically an uplifted monkey who managed to kill his abusive mad scientist creator and then turn his whole "Take over the world operation" into an "Arms dealer for villains operation"

I like this, a monkey just out to make a buck.

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I'm terrible at names, not

I'm terrible at names, not even trying, but open to suggestions:

1) It might be just my limited experience, but all the comic "intelligent gorillas" I know of are male. She's female.

2) She's mostly mute- as intelligent as she is, she lacks the voicebox to articulate structures used in human speech. She's sought out vocbox alternatives (cybernetic and biological) but her immune system rejected both and she's now left with even less vocal range than a "normal" gorilla. She can rasp out monosyllabic answers and her colleagues have learned to understand more complex chains, but she's most eloquent and comfortable in her writings and American Sign Language.

3) She works in emergency medicine, like a hyperqualified EMT/ rescue operative. She could have been a doctor, but some institutional barriers remained when she went through school. Her combination of ape characteristics and medical knowledge has let her carve out a unique niche in rescue medicine, with the city proving plenty of opportunity to put that to task. She's quite satisfied in her calling.

4) Her work brings her in close association with many heroes- so many that you'd think she'd be used to them. She's not- she's something of a hyper-fangirl and loves taking selfies with heroes she encounters, which she posts online. Her site has developed a considerable following and many heroes joke that they "know they made it" when they make her wall.

5) She's prone to bouts of depression, particularly while in crowds. It may be a sense of isolation stemming from her difficulty in communicating or just feeling so different from everyone else.

6) Within her small group of close friends (or anyone with a cape/costume), she can be enthusiastically open and friendly- maybe a little too touchy with the tickling and hugging, but all in fun. She can also be somewhat jealous or possessive when anyone else captures her friends' attention, but she's had it hurt her friendships enough that she tries hard to suppress those feelings.

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Man this is a tough one. Can

Man this is a tough one. Can’t really think of anything catchy or fitting for a gorilla girl protector type... how about Nurse Betty

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rookslide wrote:
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Man this is a tough one. Can’t really think of anything catchy or fitting for a gorilla girl protector type... how about Nurse Betty

Cure-illa

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Lol nice!

Lol nice!

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In L. Neil Smith's North

In L. Neil Smith's North American Confederacy (pardon the libertarian lectures),simian people (or others with hands but insufficiently flexible voiceboxes) use a device on their wrists that read the movements of their tendons to translate Ameslan into speech. With practice, they can talk while doing things with their hands.

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Foradain wrote:
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In L. Neil Smith's North American Confederacy (pardon the libertarian lectures),simian people (or others with hands but insufficiently flexible voiceboxes) use a device on their wrists that read the movements of their tendons to translate Ameslan into speech. With practice, they can talk while doing things with their hands.

I like it. I'd considered making reference to tech like the gloves that translate some ASL into speech, but was wary after reading some critiques among the ASL community on the limits/wisdom of that approach, since the vast scope of the language includes facial expressions and body positioning that go far beyond the the simplicity of a "translation glove." Apparently the topic leads to heated arguments in the ASL community that make our own "package silider / jiggle physics" seem small in comparison.

My goal is a character with some limits in her ability to communicate verbally, but not an absolute barrier that would limit her ability to fully function in a team. I'd imagine any translation device be akin to Stephen Hawking's machine speech- clearly slower to pull together a sentence than the mind behind it would like, but ultimately able to convey what's important.

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chase wrote:
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I'm terrible at names, not even trying, but open to suggestions:

1) It might be just my limited experience, but all the comic "intelligent gorillas" I know of are male. She's female.

2) She's mostly mute- as intelligent as she is, she lacks the voicebox to articulate structures used in human speech. She's sought out vocbox alternatives (cybernetic and biological) but her immune system rejected both and she's now left with even less vocal range than a "normal" gorilla. She can rasp out monosyllabic answers and her colleagues have learned to understand more complex chains, but she's most eloquent and comfortable in her writings and American Sign Language.

3) She works in emergency medicine, like a hyperqualified EMT/ rescue operative. She could have been a doctor, but some institutional barriers remained when she went through school. Her combination of ape characteristics and medical knowledge has let her carve out a unique niche in rescue medicine, with the city proving plenty of opportunity to put that to task. She's quite satisfied in her calling.

4) Her work brings her in close association with many heroes- so many that you'd think she'd be used to them. She's not- she's something of a hyper-fangirl and loves taking selfies with heroes she encounters, which she posts online. Her site has developed a considerable following and many heroes joke that they "know they made it" when they make her wall.

5) She's prone to bouts of depression, particularly while in crowds. It may be a sense of isolation stemming from her difficulty in communicating or just feeling so different from everyone else.

6) Within her small group of close friends (or anyone with a cape/costume), she can be enthusiastically open and friendly- maybe a little too touchy with the tickling and hugging, but all in fun. She can also be somewhat jealous or possessive when anyone else captures her friends' attention, but she's had it hurt her friendships enough that she tries hard to suppress those feelings.

love it


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not my video just one I lke ===> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6-SdIN0hsM

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[Insert reference to Congo]

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rookslide wrote:
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Man this is a tough one. Can’t really think of anything catchy or fitting for a gorilla girl protector type... how about Nurse Betty

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Here are some rough basic

Here are some rough basic ideas. Make what you will of them.

Her name is Dorothy.

The pundits call her 'Girl-rilla'.

She speaks ASL like a native, of course. She may very well speak other gesture languages, as well. You do Not want her speaking 'Tarzan' at you.

Part of her equipment is a multi-button 'talk-box' with some basic phrases like "Hello, I'm here to help!" (You can do them up as emotes.)

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Fireheart wrote:
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Here are some rough basic ideas. Make what you will of them.

Her name is Dorothy.

The pundits call her 'Girl-rilla'.

She speaks ASL like a native, of course. She may very well speak other gesture languages, as well. You do Not want her speaking 'Tarzan' at you.

Part of her equipment is a multi-button 'talk-box' with some basic phrases like "Hello, I'm here to help!" (You can do them up as emotes.)

Be Well!
Fireheart

I like every part of this
- Adopting a "natural" name is perfect for someone who's so visibly different but wants to assert her same-ness.
- People often find they're "assigned" a nickname by the observations of others that they wouldn't accept for themselves. (during the 1st gulf war, I was nicknamed "web" by the guys in my unit-" short for "webster's dictionary" because I was their spellchecker. Anyone in the tent that was writing home could call out "how do you spell X" and I'd automatically reply without interrupting whatever I was doing... I hated it, but couldn't change it. I was always envious of other people's nicknames-- except Cox, who was called every pecker synonym you could imagine... I actually thought his firstname was Dick or Richard for the longest time....)
- I hadn't even thought of Tarzan! excellent reference. I'd been thinking so narrowly of Koko when writing this.
-The talk box also solves so much. It gives her a plausible way to functionally inquire for basic diagnostics while still having limits in more broad social situations.