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On the subject of the Tiered Rewards

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Since the Kickstarter is in the queue to be released and is unfortunately delayed, we thought we'd share with you some of the things that are in the KS just waiting to be revealed. So, we present to you the tiered rewards (see below). Now mind you, the good folks at Kickstarter can kick out any reward that doesn't meed their guidelines, so, this is a pending-approval list and might be changed in some way. So, don't wed yourself to anything just yet. :)

Don't forget to check out the add-ons which we'll be adding on. Add-ons are not part of the tier of rewards and aren't automatically managed by KS. Those add-ons can be found here: http://cityoftitans.com/forum/subject-add-ons

And now, the pyramid of thank-yous:

Pledge $5 or more - Armchair Hero - We’re thankful for every bit of support. Everyone who sponsors at the minimum level will receive a set of Wallpapers in common desktop resolutions featuring the work of our talented artists. Those who join our support forums will also receive the forum title “Kickstarter.” Estimated delivery: Feb 2014

Pledge $10 or more - Construction Crew - This perk engraves your name ( or proxy ) on the sponsor’s wall in the Atlas Hurricane Memorial Park and confers access in one of the closed beta access waves + All previous rewards. Estimated delivery: May 2015

Pledge $25 or more - Bright Lights Big City - Sponsors at this level receive a handsome bundle of perks. First, you’ll get the opportunity to reserve your Global Nickname before the general release. Additionally, you’ll see the following in game rewards: A Kickstarter only badge and title for our founding heroes ( and villains! ), an exclusive costume set that will never be available again, and a prestige travel power + All previous rewards. Estimated delivery: Nov 2015

Pledge $50 or more - Home Sweet Home - This includes a full copy of the game via digital download, a month of VIP subscription, and advanced account activation during the release weekend giving you a head start on public play + All previous rewards. Estimated delivery: Nov 2015

Pledge $75 or more - Fly Free! - At this level you’ll get an additional two months of VIP access and the Kickstarter exclusive Phoenix Travel Aura + All previous rewards. Estimated delivery: Nov 2015

Pledge $125 or more - Dynamic Duo - Twice the fun! The level confers an additional set of Fly Free! rewards for a friend or family member, including all additional rewards from earlier tiers for both accounts + All previous rewards. Estimated delivery: Nov 2015

Pledge $250 or more - Mushroom Hunting - Put your mark on the map, literally. Create your own Exploration Badge on the game map. We will work with you on the location and text, within design requirements + All previous rewards. Estimated delivery: Jun 2015

Pledge $500 or more - All Your Base - One of the base features we’ll be implementing are secret entrances. At this level you’ll be able to use an additional set of doors only available to sponsors of this level plus correspondingly themed base decor + All previous rewards. Estimated delivery: Nov 2015

Pledge $750 or more - Limited (100 left of 100) - I Know A Guy - Help name and design a mission NPC in the game with our talented writers and artists + All previous rewards. Estimated delivery: Nov 2015

Pledge $1,000 or more - Limited (25 left of 25) - Registered Lethal Weapon - Design yourself a custom single weapon or prop in partnership with our talented artists. It will be exclusively yours in-game for the first year or first four issues after launch, whichever is longer. You have the option of granting access to this to others of your choosing. Estimated delivery: Nov 2015

Pledge $1,500 or more - Limited (25 left of 25) - Double Trouble - Create an additional weapon or prop in partnership with our talented artists. It will be exclusively yours in-game for the first year or four issues (whichever is longer) after launch. You have the option of granting access to this to others of your choosing + All previous rewards. Estimated delivery: Nov 2015

Pledge $3,000 or more - Limited (25 left of 25) - Fashionista - Design a custom costume texture to your specifications to be available in the game, exclusively for your characters. Costume components includes gloves, boots, belt, pants, shirt, cape, chest logo, and mask, with the addition of a custom weapon or prop which is exclusively yours in-game. It will be exclusively yours in-game for the first year or four issues (whichever is longer) after launch. You have the option of granting access to this to others of your choosing + All previous rewards. Estimated delivery: Nov 2015

Pledge $5,000 or more - Limited (5 left of 5) - Big Dog - Your NPC from “I Know A Guy” is upgraded to the owner of a major social hub within the game (nightclub, training center, store, etc). Additionally, you’ll have the *exclusive* use of the base portal within that business + All previous rewards. Estimated delivery: Nov 2015

Pledge $10,000 or more - Sanctum Sanctorum - Join us at our launch party at a major convention. We'll get your badge and room and some grub, but you will have to find your own way there. Conventions and date to be determined + All previous rewards. Estimated delivery: Aug 2015

Pledge $10,000 or more - Limited (1 left of 1) - Key to the City - Your character is famous throughout the city. Everyone knows your character. Billboards celebrate or condemn your exploits, regular news broadcasts will include your character. You will get a unique base location within a major city building. Your custom logo will be used on spotlights throughout the city to signal you for special beta-test missions before other people have access. Additionally, the city has erected a statue in your honor, complete with history plaque and exploration badge + All previous rewards except for Sanctum Sanctorum. Estimated delivery: Nov 2015

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Out of curiosity, for key to

Out of curiosity, for key to the city, how would you rationalize a villain getting a statue?

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Mushroom hunting is what I'm

Mushroom hunting is what I'm planning on.

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Wow, that is quite the list.

Wow, that is quite the list. So long as Kickstarter doesn't deny any of the tiers, I know exactly what I will be going for.

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Thanatos wrote:
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Out of curiosity, for key to the city, how would you rationalize a villain getting a statue?

It could be a statue of the villain's secret identity. It could be on the estate of an embassy. It could be left as a warning in a rundown neighborhood. It could be facing an arch-hero and represent their notorious conflict. Etc....

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Thanatos wrote:
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Out of curiosity, for key to the city, how would you rationalize a villain getting a statue?

I don't know, how would you rationalize it?

If it were me, I would have it in front of the Police Station, with a giant bomb strapped to its back. The bomb is set that any interference, and it would detonate. The statue would therefore have been placed there by my villain as the ultimate snub in their face, they have to walk by it every day, and cannot do a single thing to change that.

Or it could be in front of the Museum of Villany, a museum dedicated to the disasterdly, and the heroes who stop them.

It could even be for a former mayor who was twisted to his current villanous state by some other evil persons scheme, and nobody is aware that it is one and the same person, assuming the former mayor is dead, and not now a brain in a jar on top of a steam-driven body.....

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At the $125 - Dynamic Duo

At the $125 - Dynamic Duo level or higher, would add-ons count for both accounts or are they separate purchases?

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At the $125 - Dynamic Duo level or higher, would add-ons count for both accounts or are they separate purchases?

Along with this, if you go for a higher tier, does everything also count for your friend since most of them specify +previous rewards. If so, this would make the tier I want more affordable.

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At the $125 - Dynamic Duo level or higher, would add-ons count for both accounts or are they separate purchases?

Yeah, I would ask the same question.

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Pledge $25 or more - Bright

Pledge $25 or more - Bright Lights Big City - Sponsors at this level receive a handsome bundle of perks. First, you’ll get the opportunity to reserve your Global Nickname before the general release. Additionally, you’ll see the following in game rewards: A Kickstarter only badge and title for our founding heroes ( and villains! ), an exclusive costume set that will never be available again, and a prestige travel power + All previous rewards. Estimated delivery: Nov 2015.

Thought you guys said over and over again you weren't going to have these fake limited items as a way to generate quick cash and would look for other means. Looks like I'm out. I won't be a party to this. Shame on you guys.

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A one time thing for those

A one time thing for those who were there from the beginning isn't the same as having 300 costumes that you have to pay to unlock like the late stages if city of heroes. Maybe stop and think before you just blow off the entire community. Maybe ask it as a question rather than the way you posted it.

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Mushroom hunting is what I'm planning on.

Yeah, me too... if possible, I'd go for a nod to my old SG.

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Pledge $25 or more - Bright Lights Big City - Sponsors at this level receive a handsome bundle of perks. First, you’ll get the opportunity to reserve your Global Nickname before the general release. Additionally, you’ll see the following in game rewards: A Kickstarter only badge and title for our founding heroes ( and villains! ), an exclusive costume set that will never be available again, and a prestige travel power + All previous rewards. Estimated delivery: Nov 2015.
Thought you guys said over and over again you weren't going to have these fake limited items as a way to generate quick cash and would look for other means. Looks like I'm out. I won't be a party to this. Shame on you guys.

What if the costume said "Kickstarter" on the front and back? Are you saying people who didn't participate in the Kickstarter should have access to that? This costume set is the only item with perpetual exclusivity.

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Pledge $25 or more - Bright Lights Big City - Sponsors at this level receive a handsome bundle of perks. First, you’ll get the opportunity to reserve your Global Nickname before the general release. Additionally, you’ll see the following in game rewards: A Kickstarter only badge and title for our founding heroes ( and villains! ), an exclusive costume set that will never be available again, and a prestige travel power + All previous rewards. Estimated delivery: Nov 2015.
Thought you guys said over and over again you weren't going to have these fake limited items as a way to generate quick cash and would look for other means. Looks like I'm out. I won't be a party to this. Shame on you guys.

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Justjackwilliams wrote:
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Pledge $25 or more - Bright Lights Big City - Sponsors at this level receive a handsome bundle of perks. First, you’ll get the opportunity to reserve your Global Nickname before the general release. Additionally, you’ll see the following in game rewards: A Kickstarter only badge and title for our founding heroes ( and villains! ), an exclusive costume set that will never be available again, and a prestige travel power + All previous rewards. Estimated delivery: Nov 2015.
Thought you guys said over and over again you weren't going to have these fake limited items as a way to generate quick cash and would look for other means. Looks like I'm out. I won't be a party to this. Shame on you guys.

I don't need super powers to sense this troll. ^_^

I think you need to read posts I made leading up to this and the dev responses before you go spouting off with your ad hominem attacks.

The devs said over and over again they wouldn't do stuff like this and not only do they do a costume which they said in their own words you can "never get again" but a badge as well.

I have made my reasons clear why this is a bad move and is done for a quick cash grab. I also said I have not funded to groups that have done this because it is a case of false scarcity.

It's their KS and they can set it up however they want to but I have to call them out for flip-flopping and express my disappointment.

That's all I have to say. What a shame.

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Maybe he called ZM a troll

Maybe he called ZM a troll for not only doubleposting but also quoting himself^^

On a more serious note:
In the earlier draft for the KS rewards there were numerable tiers which gave "pledge now or be sorry" items... especially at the higher ones.
Now it is 1 badge, 1 title and 1 costume set for 25 bucks. Unless they're already starving pretty much everybody should be able to get in on that.
Remember the badges, powers and costume pieces from the several different CoX editions? This isn't that much different.

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True.

True.

But I do think there are some slight to significant differences. The edition packs were guaranteed. You bought the pack you get the good. Here, a lot could happen and there is a lot more risk as the product In question is not even out yet such as the badges, titles, and such. It's possible that the game could run into a snag and cant get done leaving people out of that $25.
Then I think the editions were available for much longer than a kickstarter campaign. They may not have been as widely available but still were mostly available, on ebay, amazon, and various other sites and most stores had them on the shelf, the ones that carried it for more than a month or two. And the player didn't have to wait a few years to get the benefits.

And while $25 may not sound like much, think about how many found Free to play a boon because they couldn't scrape up a mere $15 a month? Or times when people sub lapses prior to freedom because they didn't have $15 a month laying around. To other, $15 a month is couch change that is barely missed, same with $25. To some, it's money they may miss.

But overall I do get the just of what Justjackwilliams is saying. It can be irksome that it was said that there wasn't going to be limited items of that sort then turn around and do it anyways. If there was a possibility, then instead of stating that in a seemingly absolute term it wasn't going to happen, should of just admitted that it is a possibility even if that is not the goal.

It's not trolling to question something that is there but not long ago was said many times over and over in clear fashion that it wasn't going to happen, but yet, here it is. Most people would question that especially if they thought it was a bad idea and the statement released to quell their doubt was that the items would not be limited and turns out the exact opposite.

Always leave some leeway in statements. When statements are made as if final, then many will expect that. If there is possibility it might change or something, then don't state it especially over and over as if it is final decision that have been decided in stone. Communication.

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We put it super low on the

We put it super low on the chain so pretty much anyone who pledges gets pretties as a thank you form us Perdition. I am sorry if you don't like this approach but we really wanted to do something special for all of you guys who are supporting this project in its early stages. As for flip flopping I don't ever recall saying we never would do this nor do I know who said we never would do this. I don't know who made those promises to you as any of those directly involved in making and approving the list has never said that.

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In the Kickstarter Parameters

In the Kickstarter Parameters thread. Zombie and Tyche both said that steps would be taken to limit the number of Kickstarter exclusives and keep them in lower price ranges. (Which, in my opinion, they have done) No one said outright that there would be no exclusives.

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We put it lower then the cost

We put it lower then the cost of the game. As in everyone who pledges to buy the game gets all of the pretties.

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Perdition wrote:
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Pledge $25 or more - Bright Lights Big City - Sponsors at this level receive a handsome bundle of perks. First, you’ll get the opportunity to reserve your Global Nickname before the general release. Additionally, you’ll see the following in game rewards: A Kickstarter only badge and title for our founding heroes ( and villains! ), an exclusive costume set that will never be available again, and a prestige travel power + All previous rewards. Estimated delivery: Nov 2015.
Thought you guys said over and over again you weren't going to have these fake limited items as a way to generate quick cash and would look for other means. Looks like I'm out. I won't be a party to this. Shame on you guys.

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I think you need to read posts I made leading up to this and the dev responses before you go spouting off with your ad hominem attacks.
The devs said over and over again they wouldn't do stuff like this and not only do they do a costume which they said in their own words you can "never get again" but a badge as well.
I have made my reasons clear why this is a bad move and is done for a quick cash grab. I also said I have not funded to groups that have done this because it is a case of false scarcity.
It's their KS and they can set it up however they want to but I have to call them out for flip-flopping and express my disappointment.
That's all I have to say. What a shame.

Which is a shame really. I see it as a way of them saying thanks to people who are there at the beginning myself at a level that is fair.

If this is a reason for you throwing a paddy and crying already over pixels I think you really need to take a long hard look at your priorities, you sound like you were just itching to have an argument on the interwebz.

We can't even say "don't let the door hit you on the way out" here... they haven't made it yet ( and thats just a joke)

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At the $125 - Dynamic Duo level or higher, would add-ons count for both accounts or are they separate purchases?

Sorry for repeating my earlier question, but I did not see a response posted and was afraid it may have gotten overlooked . Thanks

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Add ons are one per account.

Add ons are one per account. Dynamic Duo only doubles everything in the perks tier it does not double add ons. :) So both accounts would get all the sparklie shines from the previous tiers but if you buy a pet for an add on it would go to 1 account of your choosing. So if you wanted the pet for 2 accounts you would have to buy 2 pets etc.

This was a very good question. Sorry for not getting it answered sooner for you.

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Thanks for the reply. This is

Thanks for the reply. This is how I thought it would be, but I just wanted clarification.

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I assume the add ons will

I assume the add ons will probably be a digital code you add to a account as most games do their add ons

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As a subscription based game,

As a subscription based game, I was hoping to see a tier that included a Lifetime Subscription offer. Say starting at 250+ and included throughout the higher tiers. You could start LTS included with the $250 kickstart campaign, and then when moved to crowdfunding raise it to $300. That is an incredibly tempting offer to propose and I know that there are a lot of players out there that would swarm all over it. And with extras included in the higher tiers they'd be tempted to upgrade. It just seems that the majority of the rewards are design or art based.

With some other MMOs offering LTS between $199-$299, $250 to offer in the initial kickstarter is hard to resist.

Was LTS something you guys considered? Is that something that Kickstart would disapprove, and maybe you'd eventually offer during separate crowdfunding? And will LTS even be presented as an option in general?

I only ask this because before I found out about TPP I was saving up to maybe get an LTS with another game, but waited once I heard what you guys were doing.

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As part of Kickstarters'

As part of Kickstarters' policy, lifetime subscriptions cannot be offered, because there is no guarantee how long the service will continue to be offered.

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LTSs rarely are beneficial to

LTSs rarely are beneficial to the company that offers them unless they know that those who buy them would have spent a lot less otherwise, or, if they can somehow monetize even more money from the LTSers. We know of companies that shot their future income in the foot with a quick grab at up-front cash with LTS and then had trouble making the game run without the revenue from regular subscriptions.

So, no, LTSs haven't even been discussed within MWM as far as I know. At least not now. It is possible the issue could be broached later, but we're far away from locking ourselves into that position now.

And besides, as you guessed, KS doesn't allow offers of lifetime subs. (From what I've heard.)

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Thank you so much for the

Thank you so much for the reply, I will be funding once the campaign starts and spreading the word to others. I look forward to the hearing of the ongoing development of TPP. Thank you all so much for your dedication and hard work.

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Add ons are one per account. Dynamic Duo only doubles everything in the perks tier it does not double add ons. :) So both accounts would get all the sparklie shines from the previous tiers but if you buy a pet for an add on it would go to 1 account of your choosing. So if you wanted the pet for 2 accounts you would have to buy 2 pets etc.

I was thinking of getting two lanyards, two mousepads and two t-shirts so I can gift one of them to a family member. I can do this on one Kickstarter account, correct?

Yes, you can get as many physical and digital add ons as you like. They are unlimited. You simply add up the cost of them to your donation and we will send out a survey after kickstarter is finished to find out what perks you wanted added on.

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Zombie Man wrote:
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LTSs rarely are beneficial to the company that offers them unless they know that those who buy them would have spent a lot less otherwise, or, if they can somehow monetize even more money from the LTSers.

If LTSs mean more people in game then the healthier server population can help attract/keep other non-LTS players.

I know I'd be very keen to hear about LTS possibilities as circumstances change and after running 3 CoX subs for just over 3, 6 and 7 years I've not started another game that requires a monthly sub. But I have bought LTSs for 4 games.

My finances mean I don't like regular subs, but can justify a big one-off from time to time...

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Well as he said, its

Well as he said, its sometihng you can consider year down the road after the game is running and has a healthy growth, But to start off the game with a huge percent of your players as LTS means very little income for the studio during the begining, which is the time thats most important, that they have as much freedom to expand and adjust as population grows, not see how tight of a budget they can manage while the game gets off its own feet.

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I noticed some tiers come

I noticed some tiers come with a month or more VIP packages. My question is, will additional months, 6 months, or year subscriptions be made as an add-on? (perhaps with a backer discount). Hey, it doesn't hurt to ask right?

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If this is a reason for you throwing a paddy and crying already over pixels I think you really need to take a long hard look at your priorities, you sound like you were just itching to have an argument on the interwebz.
We can't even say "don't let the door hit you on the way out" here... they haven't made it yet ( and thats just a joke)

Well now, lets not get into the "crying over pixels" thing as if it's a bad thing because "crying over pixels" is what spurned the idea for this project in the first place.

And careful about statements like "dont let the door hit you on the way out". That is not a very welcoming sign for suggestions and comments where suggestions and comments are supposedly welcomed. Like any open suggestion comment section you will get good ones, ok ones, meh ones, bad ones, wtf ones. But each serve their purpose. And if people think their idea will be attacked or told "dont let the door hit them," then many good ideas will be missed out. Especially in a game that is put out as "community built." "bring your suggestions and comments" "we are listening". The intended target is probably not the only one reading these forums and if it gets full of replies of that nature then some people will quietly leave and others will not speak their mind or look at it as if ideas and suggestions that are not already popular is not wanted.

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The person posting is a forum

The person posting is a forum member, it doesn't show he a staff member, so being a general member , he is entitled to comment ashe pleases, you don't have to listen to him, nor get so bent out if shape by his comment. Just keep everything on the forward path using reasoning and details, let's not just call anything someone else suggests garbage or wrong. Hostility is never the answer to moving us along.

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Luscious wrote:
Luscious wrote:

The person posting is a forum member, it doesn't show he a staff member, so being a general member , he is entitled to comment ashe pleases, you don't have to listen to him, nor get so bent out if shape by his comment. Just keep everything on the forward path using reasoning and details, let's not just call anything someone else suggests garbage or wrong. Hostility is never the answer to moving us along.
Troll/butt head rule #1 - don't feed the troll / don't take the internet to heart.. Just keep doin yo thang!

Oh crap you're right. Technical error on my side. There was the mising world emblem under his name and made it look like he was a staff but my computer boloed the graphics. Had to refresh to get everything lined up proper.

Well, the just what I said still applies but less dire. Still should be friendly and even as community members, try to not run everyone off that suggest or comments about their questions about changes. I suggest let them make the decision to give or not but dont make the decision to not give easier for them and shoot ourselves in the foot before we can get rolling. There is a time and place for snark but every comment where there is an issue or comment about what has been said or believed to have been said is probably not the best time for that. Just easier and more friendlier to kindly, KEYWORD- KINDLY point them in the right direction or enlighten them, in a KIND manner. Maybe something was misunderstood, clear it up. But telling them to leave I find very condencending and nonproductive. Because while telling one person to leave, many more may do the same without saying a word thinking if they speak up they will be told the same thing by community members or not.

"don't take the internet to heart"-yeah I try but not always succeed. But if critism or questions cant be taken now, well we as a community, is in for a very long weighted uphill battle that doesnt have to be that hard. Remember when kickstarter starts, there probably will be questions comments concerns from people who might have never played the game. And telling them to "shut up and leave" usually leads to them doing just that and bad taste of this project and anything connected to missing world and possible less funding and a journey that is made artificially hard by the community's attitude of that nature.

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yeah i got you, i just

yeah i got you, i just figured from the first line you thought he was a Staff Member.

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so when is the kickstarter

so when is the kickstarter going live?\

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Admittedly, we're probably

Admittedly, we're probably going to get so many people asking about getting a Lifetime Subscription for a KS donation that it might be worth putting in an FAQ that Kickstarter doesn't allow those.

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Not sure I understand

Not sure I understand completely the difference between the tier "All your base" and the add-on "Mogul". They both cost the same and seem to deal with bases but besides one residing at a penthouse (ala Tony Stark) and one with a secret entrance (ie Bruce Wayne) I am not sure of the benefit of one over the other. Or are BOTH together supposed to be the highest level a base can achieve?Any help would be appreciated, TKS.

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If this is a reason for you throwing a paddy and crying already over pixels I think you really need to take a long hard look at your priorities, you sound like you were just itching to have an argument on the interwebz.
We can't even say "don't let the door hit you on the way out" here... they haven't made it yet ( and thats just a joke)

Well now, lets not get into the "crying over pixels" thing as if it's a bad thing because "crying over pixels" is what spurned the idea for this project in the first place.
And careful about statements like "dont let the door hit you on the way out". That is not a very welcoming sign for suggestions and comments where suggestions and comments are supposedly welcomed. Like any open suggestion comment section you will get good ones, ok ones, meh ones, bad ones, wtf ones. But each serve their purpose. And if people think their idea will be attacked or told "dont let the door hit them," then many good ideas will be missed out. Especially in a game that is put out as "community built." "bring your suggestions and comments" "we are listening". The intended target is probably not the only one reading these forums and if it gets full of replies of that nature then some people will quietly leave and others will not speak their mind or look at it as if ideas and suggestions that are not already popular is not wanted.
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It is sometimes easy to

It is sometimes easy to forget that words do not always convey feelings or intent when they are posted.

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Kaxiya wrote:
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Not sure I understand completely the difference between the tier "All your base" and the add-on "Mogul". They both cost the same and seem to deal with bases but besides one residing at a penthouse (ala Tony Stark) and one with a secret entrance (ie Bruce Wayne) I am not sure of the benefit of one over the other. Or are BOTH together supposed to be the highest level a base can achieve?Any help would be appreciated, TKS.

If you notice, "All Your Base" includes the base items. Mogul does not, but instead gives you a grand building of your own (I keeping getting "Doofenshmirtz Evil Incorporated" stuck in my head whenever I think of that).

If you chose both, you would gain two bases, so think of Bruce Wayne with both the Bat Cave and his hidden lair within Wayne Tower.

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Very good job on the

Very good job on the offerings for donations to be offered. You will have all the support my wallet can afford.

Thank you again for all your hard work and efforts.

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*REALLY wishing he had ten

*REALLY wishing he had ten grand and a quick trigger finger! Comics Tower MUST be mine!*

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Thanks for the reply, much

Thanks for the reply, much appreciated.

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I know what I'm donating...

I know what I'm donating... wish I would give more but truthfully between not much money the higher tiers just don't interest me. But there is add-on's too that I can squeeze a few bucks more out for ^_^

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I'm 99.5% certain I'm going

I'm 99.5% certain I'm going with Dynamic Duo, as that works out well for me and the wife. One question though, do we both get our names on the sponsor wall?

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I'm 99.5% certain I'm going with Dynamic Duo, as that works out well for me and the wife. One question though, do we both get our names on the sponsor wall?

Yes! Ditto.
Please, I am begging. Dont make me sleep on the couch for this!

I have much better reasons for sleeping there without extra help. ;)

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Yes! Ditto.
Please, I am begging. Dont make me sleep on the couch for this!
I have much better reasons for sleeping there without extra help. ;)

Worst case we'll just make it read Mr. & Mrs. Error ;)

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Wow, the forum posting does

Wow, the forum posting does not play super-happy with mibile phones... just saying...

My question got lost, so re-asking. Does the Dynamic Duo portion also apply to higher tiers? In other words, if I got All Your Base for $500, would my friend also get the base secret entrance and all the base decor? It needs to be specified.

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At the $125 - Dynamic Duo level or higher, would add-ons count for both accounts or are they separate purchases?

Along with this, if you go for a higher tier, does everything also count for your friend since most of them specify +previous rewards. If so, this would make the tier I want more affordable.

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LTSs rarely are beneficial to the company that offers them unless they know that those who buy them would have spent a lot less otherwise, or, if they can somehow monetize even more money from the LTSers. We know of companies that shot their future income in the foot with a quick grab at up-front cash with LTS and then had trouble making the game run without the revenue from regular subscriptions.
So, no, LTSs haven't even been discussed within MWM as far as I know. At least not now. It is possible the issue could be broached later, but we're far away from locking ourselves into that position now.
And besides, as you guessed, KS doesn't allow offers of lifetime subs. (From what I've heard.)

They have been discussed, actually. But so far as I have seen, no final decision has been made regarding them, in no small part because KS doesn't allow them as a perk, and outside of that it doesn't make much sense to worry about them a great deal until we have several other things nailed down better than they are right now (not just monetary stuff).

Can't say much more about it at this point, other than the personal note that I'm a major fan of LTSes, and I've run the math on my receipts. I can't make claims as to how many of us are out there, but I definitely spent more on a certain game *in addition* to my LTS than it ever would have made on me as a subscriber. And I would have been vastly less inclined to purchase said stuff if I was having to pay a subscription as well.

After all, paying for it helped ensure that the value of my LTS didn't go down the drain.


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I'm 99.5% certain I'm going with Dynamic Duo, as that works out well for me and the wife. One question though, do we both get our names on the sponsor wall?

Since the name on the wall is a lower *tiered* perk (as opposed to an add-on, or a higher-tiered perk), it would be doubled.


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One thing I clarified with

One thing I clarified with Doctor Tyche on chat that I consider a slight issue. You can't buy the same perk twice (not sure if this applies to all of them). I was considering getting 2 dynamic duos (2 accounts for me, 2 nephews 1 each), but apparently this is not possible.

Consider mum/dad/4 kids all wanting accounts and the associated perks. I see problems.

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That might be a Kickstarter

That might be a Kickstarter thing. They only allow 1 pledge per account. I have seen a couple of methods used to get around that. Set up a gmail account and a second Kickstarter account, then pledge at that level again. Or the people running the Kickstarter have allowed the backers to pledge at the level they want, then change the pledge amount they will pay to double what is called for at that level. The project creators then ask the backers to specify what the extra money was for, or use a service like backerkit.com in order to give out the correct rewards.

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Doctor Tyche wrote:
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Kaxiya wrote:
Not sure I understand completely the difference between the tier "All your base" and the add-on "Mogul". They both cost the same and seem to deal with bases but besides one residing at a penthouse (ala Tony Stark) and one with a secret entrance (ie Bruce Wayne) I am not sure of the benefit of one over the other. Or are BOTH together supposed to be the highest level a base can achieve?Any help would be appreciated, TKS.

If you notice, "All Your Base" includes the base items. Mogul does not, but instead gives you a grand building of your own (I keeping getting "Doofenshmirtz Evil Incorporated" stuck in my head whenever I think of that).
If you chose both, you would gain two bases, so think of Bruce Wayne with both the Bat Cave and his hidden lair within Wayne Tower.

I'm also interested in getting either the "All Your Base" tier and/or the "Mogul" add-on but for the money involved I definitely have some further questions. I understand it will be hard to pin the Devs down on the exact details for something that may not be fully designed for years to come, but any further clarification you can provide now would be helpful.

To begin with I'm assuming the basic SG base/lair system will work like CoH did as far as having generic, default, no-cost entrance portals. So am I correct in saying main special benefit "All Your Base" provides is the ability for a player to designate a second permanent SG base/lair "secret" entrance that can be any physical door in any zone? Would this designated secret entrance be tied to an account or could each character of an account have their own unique secret doors to their own unique personal lairs? Would this secret entrance be usable by other SG members (or team members) or is it limited only to be used by a single player for a player's/character's personal lair? Once established could a player chose to reset their secret door to be linked to a new zone door in the future?

As far as Mogul goes will the "penthouse" lairs be established in the actual zone the building is in (i.e. have their own windows looking out into the live zone) or will they be generic instances with no dynamic connection to the "world" outside the building? Will they have doors that will lead out onto a balcony/ledge of the actual buildings they are meant to be on top of (like that common "meeting room" on that one updated Atlas Park building did)?

Thanks for any further info on this.

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