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So nobody misses it

In one of the RP threads, I made mention of the memorial park, and posted a screenshot of the under-development setup, and realized I should put it here so people don't miss it.

The Memorial is, ultimately, for the players who have left us, a way to memorialize their characters. In the center is to be a holo projector, which will rotate their toons. But for those special ones, those we all know and love, we have little things like this. Ascendant, we miss you.

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Wait. Are there still public

Wait. Are there still public phones out in the world?

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Brand X wrote:
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Wait. Are there still public phones out in the world?

Yes there are.

I know, I was in shock when I saw one out "in the wilds of the city". Actually, it was at a park of all places, one that overlooks an entire city no less.


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Wait. Are there still public phones out in the world?

So far I've only placed one, that one.

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with an "A"
"the one with the A"
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Doctor Tyche wrote:
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Wait. Are there still public phones out in the world?
So far I've only placed one, that one.

I vote we leave it at one ;)

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It might be funny easter egg

Having the tribute to Ascendant is a cool idea but it shouldn't preclude other related ideas. For example it might be a funny easter egg for the Devs to find a seedy part of town and recreate the phone booth that Deadpool uses in the Deadpool 2 teaser trailer:

Even Deadpool comments at one point "What the f**k is a phone booth doing on a street corner? Didn't they disappear in '98? :)

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I don't know why we'd have a

I don't know why we'd have a tribute to a CoH player myself.

Not even sure if we need a tribute to Deadpool. :p Though part of my comment was based on that DP2 trailer :)

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Speaking of the Deadpool

Speaking of the Deadpool teaser Lothic references, let's have a phone booth in game that performs a costume change. Perhaps even link it with a badge.

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I vote we leave it at one ;)

I'll second that vote!

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Maybe even have a fake sign

Maybe even have a fake sign on the booth for this?

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Maybe even have a fake sign on the booth for this?

I always loved that Bender, a technically non-living robot, always had this weird fascination with jumping into random suicide booths and then of course not dying for various obvious reasons. He even took Fry into one with him when they first met back when Fry naively thought they were -just- phone booths. :)

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I thought this was at first a

I thought this was at first a memorial for the public phone, but I'm glad I read more.

I like this idea in concept, but how would someone get a former player legitimately added to the rotation? Conversely, how would that be prevented from being abused, as in, submitting someone who hasn't actually moved along/died/etc?

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Cobalt Azurean wrote:
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I thought this was at first a memorial for the public phone, but I'm glad I read more.

I think the "phone booth" deal for Ascendant is sort of a special case because he was a pretty well known guy from CoH. I didn't know/meet him personally on any level and yet I still remember/recognize the name. I'm assuming the Devs of CoT probably knew him better than most of the rest of us and I kind of got the idea that this would be sort of a "one-time" deal just for him.

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I like this idea in concept, but how would someone get a former player legitimately added to the rotation? Conversely, how would that be prevented from being abused, as in, submitting someone who hasn't actually moved along/died/etc?

I have to assume that the Devs would vet any submissions for the hologram deal pretty well before they allowed anyone to appear there. I really don't see too many people wanting to "sneak in" and pretend to be dead but I guess that might happen if someone was really determined.

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Lothic wrote:
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Cobalt Azurean wrote:

I thought this was at first a memorial for the public phone, but I'm glad I read more.
I like this idea in concept, but how would someone get a former player legitimately added to the rotation? Conversely, how would that be prevented from being abused, as in, submitting someone who hasn't actually moved along/died/etc?

I think Ascendant is sort of a special case because he was a pretty well known guy from CoH. I didn't know/meet him personally on any level and yet I still remember/recognize the name. I'm assuming the Devs of CoT probably knew him better than most of the rest of us and I kind of got the idea that this would be sort of a "one-time" deal just for him.

In effect, but there is a second part to the story as well. Before we settled on the game's name, we bounced a multitude of ideas around. The one we'd settled on was actually Ascendant Online. But, with his association with the name, we did not want to use it without his say so. Sadly, he fell into his final coma just days before we'd decided, and sent off the email to ask. After his passing, it then felt like we would have been capitalizing on his passing, so went back to the drawing board.

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Lothic wrote:
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Cobalt Azurean wrote:
I thought this was at first a memorial for the public phone, but I'm glad I read more.
I like this idea in concept, but how would someone get a former player legitimately added to the rotation? Conversely, how would that be prevented from being abused, as in, submitting someone who hasn't actually moved along/died/etc?
I think Ascendant is sort of a special case because he was a pretty well known guy from CoH. I didn't know/meet him personally on any level and yet I still remember/recognize the name. I'm assuming the Devs of CoT probably knew him better than most of the rest of us and I kind of got the idea that this would be sort of a "one-time" deal just for him.

Yes, I know, I remember him. But the original OP said this:

Doctor Tyche wrote:

In the center is to be a holo projector, which will rotate their toons.

I figured this meant 'toons' as in 'multiple player characters', not the characters that belonged to a single player. Thus, my original inquiry still has validity and merit.
So if I could get a Dev to answer my original question, that'd be great, thanks.

Edit: SNIPED! Sorta. So, as for my original question...

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Cobalt Azurean wrote:
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I thought this was at first a memorial for the public phone, but I'm glad I read more.
I like this idea in concept, but how would someone get a former player legitimately added to the rotation? Conversely, how would that be prevented from being abused, as in, submitting someone who hasn't actually moved along/died/etc?

Obituary/death certificate would be needed, after which the person's account would be perma-locked, and their primary toon enters rotation.

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Doctor Tyche wrote:
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Cobalt Azurean wrote:
I thought this was at first a memorial for the public phone, but I'm glad I read more.
I like this idea in concept, but how would someone get a former player legitimately added to the rotation? Conversely, how would that be prevented from being abused, as in, submitting someone who hasn't actually moved along/died/etc?
Obituary/death certificate would be needed, after which the person's account would be perma-locked, and their primary toon enters rotation.

Like I finished up saying I assumed you'd vet any submission for this pretty carefully. If you're going to require actual real-world documentation I can't see how anyone would be able (or would want) to "spoof" that very easily.

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Doctor Tyche wrote:
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Cobalt Azurean wrote:
I thought this was at first a memorial for the public phone, but I'm glad I read more.
I like this idea in concept, but how would someone get a former player legitimately added to the rotation? Conversely, how would that be prevented from being abused, as in, submitting someone who hasn't actually moved along/died/etc?
Obituary/death certificate would be needed, after which the person's account would be perma-locked, and their primary toon enters rotation.

Right on. Thank YOU for YOUR response.

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Will there be an exploration

Will there be an exploration badge here?

"Call of the Ascendant"
"Ascendant's Call"
"Ascendant Airwaves"

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Lothic wrote:
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Like I finished up saying I assumed you'd vet any submission for this pretty carefully. If you're going to require actual real-world documentation I can't see how anyone would be able (or would want) to "spoof" that very easily.

Photoshop ? ^^
But, he must want to have his game-account blocked :/
Maybe, a MAC adress to block too ?

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Lothic wrote:
Like I finished up saying I assumed you'd vet any submission for this pretty carefully. If you're going to require actual real-world documentation I can't see how anyone would be able (or would want) to "spoof" that very easily.
Photoshop ? ^^
But, he must want to have his game-account blocked :/
Maybe, a MAC adress to block too ?

Obviously if someone really, really (and I mean really) wanted to be taken for dead in this game just to get a character displayed as a memorial hologram then of course it would not be impossible to fake real world death certificates. My guess is that it's going to be extremely unlikely anyone would bother to go that far, especially since the Devs will also permanently lock their account to "make sure" they stay dead.

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Maybe, a MAC adress to block too ?

That could potentially impact other people that played in the house.

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TitansCity wrote:
Maybe, a MAC adress to block too ?
That could potentially impact other people that played in the house.

That's a responsability to take from the player to not be idiot ^^

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TitansCity wrote:
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Maybe, a MAC adress to block too ?

That could potentially impact other people that played in the house.

That's a responsability to take from the player to not be idiot ^^

Not the point, I think. If one person in the house actually dies, and someone recommended him for one of these memorials, everybody in the house could get locked out of the game. In our efforts to prevent fraud, we must consider the impact on bystanders.

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mayhaps just lock the

mayhaps just lock the characters used in the display? I think it would be up to the person submitting the deceased for memorial to decide which characters to submit as "primary." I would think that anyone going to the trouble would be interacting closely with the devs to establish this sort of background information.

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This would be a very fitting

This would be a very fitting tribute to Ascendant, especially the phone booth.

My own personal remembrance of Ascendant:

Ascendant wrote:

Anyway, I poured a bowl of Ascendant-O's yesterday to see what they taste like and nearly died before I could finish adding the milk.

Well, if the Katt hadn't come along and eaten it all, I would have, Saul.

RIP, Tre!

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I maaay be in the minority

I maaay be in the minority here, but I am actually kinda against memorials to players who have passed away. I suppose given the one for Ascendant is well under way and a good number of folks/devs here knew him but I would hazard a guess that most people (such as myself) never even heard of the man. As such, what I ask is this...what's the criteria for getting a memorial? I could know a ton (even hundreds) of people yet I will only know a small fraction of the player base on the whole and never meet or play with a dev. As such, should I pass, if the hundred people ask for a memorial for me would I get one? where's the line who would be included and who is not?

I would say this memorial should be a one time gig...especially when it comes to displaying a character of a player who has passed (much less one who only played a game that no longer exists). I there is still this need I would say make a plaque at the base that only lists the names of the departed and there also should be a set criteria set forth for one to qualify for said memorial inclusion.

Again, I have a feeling I am in the minority here but figured I would say something none the less. This is tricky territory given we are talking about actual lives of people and not just some pixilated representation of a character who is more than likely nothing at all like the person in question.

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There is a similar sentiment

There is a similar sentiment over in the Let's Argue: Endgame thread concerning using your character without you at the helm.
Using your character's image might not go over too well with some people. Having an Opt In checkbox in whatever buried menu might weird people out. Plus the memorial is more for those of us remaining than for those that are gone.
I think that a creative memorial like the one for Ascendant hits the right kind of mark.

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I agree with WhitePeregrine.

I agree with WhitePeregrine. What is the criteria. This memorial isn't even for a player of CoT, a long gone backer of the KS or a CoT forum goer. This is a memorial for a guy who played a different game.

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I think the criteria would be

I think the criteria would be if the developers want it, it goes in.

This whole project is an homage to City of Heroes, and if Ascendant was deemed to be a bright star in the City of Heroes community constellation, then I think memorializing him is a wonderful thing to do.


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