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Rikti Warzone type areas

Some of my favorite areas were areas that felt like an absolute struggle between allied forces, and enemy ones. Curious if we've heard, or if there will be any plans for "warzone" type areas in CoT.

If so, any chances of them actually being contested? Meaning, the enemy forces can actually take over allied bases, and vice versa. Nothing like a warzone that actually has meaning and impact.

Can't tell you how many hours I spent in warzone type areas, pointlessly defending a base, just because it felt awesome.

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I'm also interested in areas

I'm also interested in areas where heroes, villains, and everything in-between have to put aside their mutual dislike/hatred for the sake of mutual survival. RWZ, DA, etc.

Klaleara wrote:

If so, any chances of them actually being contested? Meaning, the enemy forces can actually take over allied bases, and vice versa. Nothing like a warzone that actually has meaning and impact.

I think if it was like Recluse's Victory (not including the PvP element) where if a pillbox (base in the case of the aforementioned example) was taken over, or reclaimed, the area's appearance would change with some phasing to the appropriate alignment. I always thought that was cool because the actions of the players literally had an effect, even if temporary, on the environment.

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Cobalt Azurean wrote:
Cobalt Azurean wrote:

I'm also interested in areas where heroes, villains, and everything in-between have to put aside their mutual dislike/hatred for the sake of mutual survival. RWZ, DA, etc.
Klaleara wrote:
If so, any chances of them actually being contested? Meaning, the enemy forces can actually take over allied bases, and vice versa. Nothing like a warzone that actually has meaning and impact.
I think if it was like Recluse's Victory (not including the PvP element) where if a pillbox (base in the case of the aforementioned example) was taken over, or reclaimed, the area's appearance would change with some phasing to the appropriate alignment. I always thought that was cool because the actions of the players literally had an effect, even if temporary, on the environment.

Essentially that, yeah. Cept not PVP haha. PVP is a "Have to be in the right mood" for me, and PVP always get these awesome map mechanics. I want more PVE that does it!

Tabula Rasa did it, why can't anyone else /pout

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The Rikti War Zone is

The Rikti War Zone is "excusable" in a city with War Walls.

You really can't pull that kind of [b][i]{ FNORD! }[/i][/b] in any kind of city where you don't have ... Containment Fields ... keeping all that stuff compartmentalized away from the rest of the city.

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Redlynne wrote:
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The Rikti War Zone is "excusable" in a city with War Walls.
You really can't pull that kind of { FNORD! } in any kind of city where you don't have ... Containment Fields ... keeping all that stuff compartmentalized away from the rest of the city.

Those containment fields/war walls didn't do anything to stop the Rikti from spreading to the rest of the city - they simply flew/TPed over them or tunneled underneath them (Thus us finding them in the Abandoned Sewers and their war with the Circle of Thorns). The RWZ was a focal point for their invasion force due to the fact that their portal was underneath the crashed mothership - it was their beachhead and they dug in. Vanguard and their Hero/Villain conscripts were doing their best to surround it and keep them contained through conventional means.

The same can go for similar "focal points" even in a world without war walls. Containment by conventional, or even non-conventional (magic/super-science) means.

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I find it difficult to

I find it difficult to imagine common Joe Public calmly going about his daily business, with a cataclysmic conflict going day and night, just a few streets away.

Might have to put it on an island, a few miles offshore.

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Fireheart wrote:
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I find it difficult to imagine common Joe Public calmly going about his daily business, with a cataclysmic conflict going day and night, just a few streets away.

In a word without superheroes and supervillains, this happened last week:
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I can see how people could eventually get numb to the constant threat of destruction, much like Kermit here, who starts to flail impressively then calms down:
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I think they'll have to have

I think they'll have to have some sort of loading screen separating war zones from the main city. Go to the airport or portal corps equivalent and transit to the warzone.

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Grimfox wrote:
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Go to the airport or portal corps equivalent and transit to the warzone.

I'd say you're on the right track. Go to the airport and LEAVE TITAN CITY BEHIND and go to the disaster area [i]someplace else[/i].

You don't need to pack every disaster into the area of a single city. There's a whole PLANET out there ...

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If you're lucky, they might

If you're lucky, they might even land the plane before you get out...

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Aliens who prefer different

Aliens who prefer different environments (desert, arctic, etc.) invading those ecosystems to establish their bases... Monsters from the Deep coming ashore in eastern Asia... Time Raiders seeking a beachhead in San Dimas...

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Other locations (I approve

Other locations (I approve 100%, Croatoa was a favorite of mine) or conventional containment with a wide enough DMZ could make sense depending on the threat. For something not quite worthy of a citywide evacuation, certain powerful corporate / government / secret society groups might decide to disguise the problem area with holographical-magical-whatevers so that normal citizens (and maybe even most supers) can't perceive the threat. Or some road closed signs and a bit of "nothing to see here" hypnotic suggestion. Human history is littered with cover-ups both real and imagined, and with the kind of tech and magic accessible to CoT, the potential spikes.

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Foradain wrote:
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Aliens who prefer different environments (desert, arctic, etc.) invading those ecosystems to establish their bases... Monsters from the Deep coming ashore in eastern Asia... Time Raiders seeking a beachhead in San Dimas...

San Dimas.....where things are more moderner and therefore.....bigger. And yet, smaller! It's computers. ... ... San Dimas High School Football rules!

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Lin Chiao Feng wrote:
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If you're lucky, they might even land the plane before you get out...

Pilot: "Too risky, we're going to slow down and fly at about 500 ft. Remember to tuck and roll when you hit the ground."

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You've been hanging out with

You've been hanging out with Amerikatt again, haven't you?

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I couldn't find a good

I couldn't find a good representative tuck and roll gif of someone actually jumping out of a plane or car even. So I went comical because if people wont do it, a cat will.

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You could have your war zone

You could have your war zone in an instance of it's own, like on the moon, or some island, or in a vast underground area, etc. You'd have to get there by teleporter or something, so not contiguous with the city proper but it could still be done.

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An interesting phenomenon

An interesting phenomenon began in the mid-nineties and has continued in small bursts and fits ever since: some neighborhoods inside American cities are creating walled enclaves that mimic the gated communities sometimes found in upper class suburbs. Granted, so far, this is a very limited phenomenon, however, it is a very real one.

This is how feudalism historically begins. Someone, somewhere walls off a section of land "for protection of the community" and over time, others copy that idea. So, a century from now (or two or three) will we see American cities divided into walled fortresses of the haves and have-nots with distinct borders between neighborhoods drawn along lines of affluence?

Maybe, maybe not. Only time will tell.

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This is in the American North

This is in the American North east. Take a tram to a recreation colonial village. underneath is a hi-tech military base studying a crashed Martian Troop Ship. Period costumes. picturesque battlegrounds. bizarre, out of context combat.

Frankly it does not have to be Martians. American folklore would suffice. At night, the Headless Horseman would ride (super arch-boss). Evil dwarves guard a sleeping Rip Van Winkle (who becomes a super arch-boss if you wake him). The Collinwood house (renamed) would have a vampire, werewolves and ghosts. The woods would be filled with Wendigos, and undead redcoats (who gather to attack the recreation village).

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OOOHH! I know! We could

OOOHH! I know! We could rename it "Colon Wood" :P

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Anyone else have a problem

Anyone else have a problem with "Colon Wood?"

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Lin Chiao Feng wrote:
Lin Chiao Feng wrote:

If you're lucky, they might even land the plane before you get out...

Scenario 1:
"Did he just jump without a 'chute?"
"It's okay, he doesn't really need one."
"Dang!"

Scenario 2
you get pushed from behind as you look out the door to find the LZ
"D . . a . . m . . n . . . . . . y . . o . . o . . o . . . . . "

Scenario 3
the plane disintegrates around you from the hail of AA fire.
"Well, isn't that just great!"

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I can tell you now forum

I can tell you now forum posters live in relatively safe places, and don't really watch much news. You can get used to anything. As someone who grew up in a country and city where violent crime is common, and threat to life is a daily occurrence, I speak from experience. Gunshot down the street from where you live = Business as usual. Armed assault vehicle containing money from bank vaults is taken out on the highway by criminals with automatic assault rifles = Traffic jam. Mugging in the family = story comparison and half-hearted complaining. Death in the family = Tragedy, but then you wake up and get on with the job of living, because it's either that or give up and die.

Also, conventional warfare invented concepts like encirclement, sanctions, border patrols, checkpoints, and segregation, so you don't need fancy walls to try and contain an invasion. We have also used perfectly normal bricks and mortar, or barbed wire, or cast iron to get the job done, both within cities and without.

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