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Poke the dragon.

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Poke the dragon.

Please have a quest where you /poke a dragon. That is all I ask. Thanks!

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There could be different

There could be different versions of this.
A first level quest could be called the TPK quest. It could be used like a tutorial where you find out where the hospital is by waking up there..

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Cyclops wrote:
Cyclops wrote:

There could be different versions of this.
A first level quest could be called the TPK quest. It could be used like a tutorial where you find out where the hospital is by waking up there..

Ha ha ha. I like this. Seriously. I think that would do well to establish the bonafides for a villian (or hero, depending on whether the character starts as a self-designated villian). And then at some point in mid-game, the character faces that nemesis again. The drama should be ramped-up now that the character already has a history with it.

On the other hand, there will probably be a good number of players who would NOT like being put into our place like this. In my personal opinion, a hero needs a "hero's journey"TM and that requires a hero start humbly or starts powerful yet stumbles nonetheless. Poking the dragon would be a good way to kick start the hero's journey.

If I understand correctly, our first mission in game will actually be a bank robbery during which we will learn basic game controls as well as enabling us to establish whether we are heroes, villians, or something in-between. Then when we enter the city, Poke the Dragon can be the first mission we get. Our contect tells us theres a new threat trying to carve a neighborhood for itself. Stop it. ...


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I'd have no problem with

I'd have no problem with there being missions/scenarios in the game like this that could be used as some kind of tutorial or whatnot.

Unfortunately the operative phrase "poke the dragon" happens to be rather unsavory slang for something we probably wouldn't want to have associated with the game even in an indirect way. For what it's worth I'm not accusing Cute Kitsune or anyone else of anything negative - I'm simply assuming that this phrase was used here in basic ignorance of its more "colorfully adult" definition.

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Lothic wrote:
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I'd have no problem with there being missions/scenarios in the game like this that could be used as some kind of tutorial or whatnot.

Unfortunately the operative phrase "poke the dragon" happens to be rather unsavory slang for something we probably wouldn't want to have associated with the game even in an indirect way. For what it's worth I'm not accusing Cute Kitsune or anyone else of anything negative - I'm simply assuming that this phrase was used here in basic ignorance of its more "colorfully adult" definition.

See that's what came to my mind first but I thought I'd see how others reacted :p


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I'm torn. I'm ignorant of the

I'm torn. I'm ignorant of the "adult" use of this phrase. And while curious as to the other usage, I sometimes find I'm valuing my innocence more lately. I like the idea though. That sometimes an immortal will willfully bite off more than they can choose because consequences are low.

I recall in the early days of COH that I was on a PUG where we were running through Perez Park and happened upon something well above our low level. After wiping we hurried back to the park both in awe and excited to find out what on earth had happened.

I later learned we'd run into a couple Lost bosses, who had used their psychic powers to one shot all of us.

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Yeah I had a wide array of

Yeah I had a wide array of adult knowledge but that one was very much beyond me and I would hope most people. The fact is something you do that isn't adult when you do it will become adult somewhere along the way. Not poking the dragon is such a common term among gamers I knew the P.G. use of it when I was 7 or 8.

As an author I learned that written things are only as adult as the reader's knowledge. You also can still use the concept without using the exact phrase.

Having learned of the adult version of the phrase I find it so edge case and honestly stupid that I'm just going to go through life pretending now I never learned it.

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Cute Kitsune wrote:
Cute Kitsune wrote:

You also can still use the concept without using the exact phrase.

Yeah it's funny how different peoples' experiences, well, differ.

For me there's always been a distinct difference between the phrases "Don't poke the bear" and "Don't poke the dragon". I'm aware that people often use them interchangeably but at least the 'bear' version doesn't have a questionably adult meaning I'm aware of.

As you say this could just be a "stupid edge case" for most people. I'm just asking why risk even mentioning an edge case when there's a version of the phrase that doesn't seem to have an obvious downside? Remember that the Devs of CoH desperately tried to dissuade people from using the term "butt cape" in reference to how that game implemented trenchcoats but despite their wishes pretty much everyone still called them "butt capes".

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"What happened to you, Fred?"

"What happened to you, Fred?"
"I poked the dragon... and I Liked it!"

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A dragon is a Bare Bear?

A dragon is a Bare Bear?

Let me just mess up some more childhoods. Really, I thought Bear and Dragon were interchangeable for genre or level of difficulty

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I think you could sweeten a

I think you could sweeten a TPK quest by giving a reward to the last one to die...it would give a party a reason to scatter and use tactics...and it should be a nice piece of loot for first level...something a player could really use.

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