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At long last. Production stills released from Avatar 2.

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At long last. Production stills released from Avatar 2.

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As I watched Avatar all I

As I watched Avatar all I could think was, “This is good but it needs more Mr. Bean.”

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Yeah, it's really shaping up.

Yeah, it's really shaping up. Here's another, I can't believe Will Smith is going to be in it.

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I liked the first Avatar

I liked the first Avatar movie and I'll likely go see any sequels/prequels that end up happening. But to be honest beyond the wonderful CGI the whole "premise" of the movie was just a tad too preachy and stilted for my liking. Basically to me it was effectively "Dances with Blue Aliens" and frankly the original "Dances with Wolves" was simply a much better version of that same story. Even "Dances with Samurai" (which is what I call the Tom Cruise "The Last Samurai" movie) was arguably better.

Not saying Avatar was bad, just saying its plotline was absolutely 100% derivative of at least one or more better movies. Might as well throw Mr. Bean into a sequel...

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My problem with Avatar was

My problem with Avatar was the massive genetic modification those trees were doing to whole species, and in the case of the tall blue bipeds, on another sapient species to create what amounts to a slave race. Unless there's a slave revolt, I have no interest in the sequel.

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Foradain wrote:
Foradain wrote:

My problem with Avatar was the massive genetic modification those trees were doing to whole species, and in the case of the tall blue bipeds, on another sapient species to create what amounts to a slave race. Unless there's a slave revolt, I have no interest in the sequel.

Never really considered a "master/slave" angle with the movie but I guess you could get there if you squint real hard at the relationship you're talking about. To me the whole "new agey/mother nature/soul of the planet" thing was laid on a bit thick and preachy regardless. I can only imagine that aspect of the original movie will be repeated in the next one.

The real problem I have with a sequel is how the human-based corporation/military is going to realistically respond to the events of the last movie. Either they are going to leave Pandora completely alone (not likely) or they are going to return with an armada big enough to vaporize the entire ball of wax or at least enough troops to exterminate every last Na'vi standing. Considering that the metal they were mining on Pandora (ironically named Unobtanium) had supposedly become the key to humanity's survival I doubt they are just going to give up so easily.

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Never saw Dances with Wolves,

Never saw Dances with Wolves, but I had strong Pocahontas story line vibes when I watched Avatar

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Reminded me of Ferngully...

Reminded me of Ferngully... but I still liked it...

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Kiyori Anoyui wrote:
Kiyori Anoyui wrote:

Never saw Dances with Wolves, but I had strong Pocahontas story line vibes when I watched Avatar

In a super-quick, spoiler-rich summary of Dances with Wolves see if this sounds familiar:

A Civil War era Union soldier (John Dunbar played by Kevin Costner) who is shot in the leg and basically expects to die miraculously survives his injury. Based on this life-altering event he decides to head out to the frontier to restart his life away from the chaos of civilization. A fresh start.

Once Dunbar volunteers to serve at a remote western outpost where he's all alone he soon begins to encounter the local tribe of Native Americans. At first Dunbar and the locals distrust and misunderstand each other. Both sides obviously have many false prejudices against the other. But slowly over time he manages to gain the trust of the locals to the point where he goes to meet them at their camp.

While visiting the locals he finds a woman who is clearly part of the local tribe but happens to be white. Dramatically he finds and saves her just as she's killing herself in an act of morning for the lost of her native husband. Turns out this woman had been saved years ago by the tribe when she was an orphaned child and has grown up as an adopted daughter to one of the tribal leaders Dunbar has become friendly with.

So he spends time with the woman who helps to teach him about their language and culture. Turns out she's actually a pretty strong woman (much like Avatar's Neytiri) whose tribal name is "Stands with a Fist" because she didn't let the other native children tease her about being white as a child. She remembers enough English from her childhood to help translate for him. Eventually they develop a real relationship and he becomes accepted as a member of the tribe. They name Dunbar "Dances with Wolves" because they watch him interact with a wolf that he befriends. They allow Stands and Dunbar to become engaged. By this time Dunbar has long given up his outpost or any pretense of being a "soldier".

But when everything seems to be going great the Union army comes back to the abandoned outpost to track down what happened to Dunbar. Of course being "unenlightened" the soldiers don't take kindly to the tribe or to Dunbar once they find him and see that he's "gone native". There's some fighting and several of the tribe get killed. Dunbar manages to persuade the rest of the tribe to flee north into Canada where they presumably live the rest of their lives in peace.

Obviously it's not 100% identical to Avatar but unmistakably you've got all the same major plot points that matter. Perhaps if I had seen Avatar first I'd say Dances with Wolves "ripped off" Avatar, but clearly Dances with Wolves (and even The Last Samurai which again had the same basic "white man goes native" plotline) came first and is still arguably the better movie story-wise.

Even though I've effectively spoiled the entire movie for you I'd still recommend you seeing it. It's good enough that I've watched it several times and I'll probably see it again sometime.

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