Marvel vs. Capcom bombing and DC's Injustice doing well made me think that maybe it's time for Marvel to try their hand at a fighting game solely dedicated to the characters of Marvel. This is especially true since they've said they wanted to get back into the world of gaming. If they did that, what would you want to see out of an all-Marvel fighter?
My wishlist:
- Draw from the comics, don't just plug for the MCU. I mean, that just makes for a very boring and uninspired game like MvCI. Just look at how terrible that game did and one of the common complaints was that the roster was horridly dull.
- On that note, include X-Men and FF characters. Since Marvel should be getting the film rights back soon, they won't have jack to use for leverage.
- Oh, and make sure to include left-field picks!
- Have a proper budget and development cycle, to make sure we don't end up with well, another MvCI situation.
- Get a talented developer. The one I'd like to see is Arc System Works, because they're on a roll lately.
- Have plenty of content to keep players coming back.
- Support it! Post-launch is important to make sure the game has a long life ahead.
As for what I'd like to see out of the roster, here you go. I made use of all kinds of Marvel characters from the A-list classics to the lesser-known, just as a game like this should have.
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Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Wolverine, Nova, Doctor Doom, Spider-Man, Spider-Woman, Cloak & Dagger, Deadpool, Hawkeye, Magneto, Juggernaut, Psylocke, Armor, Captain Marvel, Star-Lord, She-Hulk.
[b]Bottom[/b]
Ant-Man, Ghost, Enchantress, Doctor Strange, X-23, Annihilus, Super-Skrull, Doctor Octopus, Black Panther, Nico Minoru, Gwenpool, Taskmaster, Storm, Sentinel, Dazzler, Moon Knight, Ms. Marvel, Rocket Raccoon, Thanos.
What do you guys think?
MvC:I didn't sell a ton but they did sell over a million copies which is pretty decent. Unfortunately, Marvel nixed the X-Men, and didn't even really push the Inhumans to take their place at all. First Marvel fighting game without Xmen in it, which, the series basically started with them.
That being said, they've released a MOBA in Korea... its not.... it's not good. Still no X-Men, but they have a great cast of characters there.
Marvel is likely going to redouble efforts after the next two games under its belt are released, The Avengers by Square Enix and Spider Man by Insomniac, published by Sony.
Not to mention there's some rumors that Epic may be seeing their hat in the ring for a future Marvel game after they released a Fortnite patch including Thanos in the game.
And lest we not forget Marvel in the Mobile Space is still doing exceptionally well, strike force has been doing decently while games like M-Puzzle Quest and Future Fight are still getting pretty solid numbers despite being out for a very long time.
*shrug* We will have to wait and see. A new Marvel only "fighting game" ... I don't think I'd want to see that specifically, especially if they continue to cut xmen characters out. I would like to see more marvel games with PvP modes, like a Marvel Ultimate Alliance game with a Secret Wars mode to fight against other players.
I’m hoping they learn their lesson from trying to sweep X-Men under the rug like they never existed despite being their most popular product for many years and cultural icons, especially since they should hopefully be getting the film rights back soon.
Also I believe MvCI only shipped that amount, not sold. Even Capcom admitted it was a flop.
Agreed on Marvel screwing up when they kept trying to screw over the X-Men.
I get it, they don't own the movie rights. So what. Quit screwing over the fans because they now regret a deal they made. :/
Inhumans were never going to replace X-Men.
It would be awesome if they got the same people who did the injustice games, so that, that way, not only would the combat be more approachable but it would also mean that we could get DC characters as DLC and that the company could eventually make a DC vs Marvel fighting game.
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Doubt that could ever happen, because Netherrealm is owned by Warner Bros. aka Disney's arch-enemy. That was how they were able to make Injustice to begin with. Even if that wasn't the case, I doubt Marvel and DC will be willing to cooperate enough to make a crossover game with each other.
oh... well that sucks...
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I thought Marvel Heroes was their attempt at a marvel-only fighting game :P
And Marvel vs Capcom is *old* - like, SNES old, if not NES.
Also, I thought Enchantress was a DC character? Or is the name generic enough that they can’t copyright/trademark it?
Um, Marvel Heroes is a F2P action roleplaying game, not a fighting game.
And sorry if this makes you feel bad, but I can't believe someone confused Marvel's Enchantress with DC's Enchantress. She came first, and is far more prominent as one of Thor's primary villains than the DC version ever was.
Marvel vs Capcom infinite didn't do well for a number of reasons, lack luster visuals, smaller roster, game play changes, etc.
That said Marvel is a strong enough brand to stand on it's own without needing the Capcom roster. It'd be nice for them to release a marvel fighting game alongside the Street Fighter series then have cross-over games every now and then.
I'd steer clear of it being like injustice. I really dislike that game; the designs, the story, and the game play. Granted that's just my opinion there.
What we really need is to get the guys behind Dad of Boy, I mean the latest God of War to make a Thor game. Replace Kratos' Axe with Mjolnir and you're on your way. Give it the zany fun that Thor Ragnarok had and I think it'd be great.
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
D'aw, I'm sorry to hear that MvC didn't do well. I remember playing on the original Playstation the first two games and getting crushed by my friend but still enjoyed the experience because the game was so fun and vibrant. Since discovering CoH/V, I've kinda ignored consoles and only still have a PS2. Since I'm currently not playing anything online, and I randomly got the itch for fighting games, I started to look at consoles again. Again, thanks for bringing up MvCI so I could get the skinny on it.
Marvel Heroes was a Diablo-esque game because Diablo creator David Brevik was a strong creative force behind it, and when he left (coincidentally?) was when the game started to hardcore tank. I didn't think that I would like it when I started to play it, even with the click-to-move aspect, but it was hugely fun as long as you didn't mind endlessly farming for that one drop for min/maxing. #WelcomeToClubJuggs #Juggernut4Life
And I'll second the voices that mentioned having the FF and X-Men in any game that Marvel may attempt, otherwise you'll disappoint dem hardcore fanbois who would otherwise chuck some money at it but won't anymore out of sheer principle.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but...a Thor villain? No wonder I’ve never heard of her. My knowledge of Thor is limited to the cinematic universe (not including Ragnarok which I haven’t bothered with yet) and cringing at how horribly they’ve mangled Norse mythology.
DC’s Enchantress at least made it into a movie (Suicide Squad).
And I know what kind of game Marvel Heroes was (it’s dead now, the company that made it went out of business entirely). It probably would’ve done better as a fighting game.
I've never been too critical/picky about people "confusing" one character in comic books being named "X" versus another also being named "X". Both DC and Marvel have shared so many character names over the decades that it wouldn't really surprise me to learn that there was a Marvel version of "Superman" or a DC version of "Iron Man".
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Closest thing to a DC version of Iron Man that I’m aware of is the Atom (Ray Palmer). Although, really, he’s more of a cross between Iron Man and Ant-Man. AFAIK, Marvel’s ‘Superman’ is Thor :P
Marvel’s Enchantress was briefly in Agents of Shield as a villain so she at least made it to the small screen.
I was a pretty active MH player back in the day. Brevik was awesome, he took the time to interact with the community and seemed to really care about the game. It can’t be a coincidence that it all fell apart after he left.
Marvel’s Contest of Champions is basically a Marvel version of Injustice, though it’s only available as a mobile game. But it has a full roster drawing from every part of Marvel (X-Men included) and it would be pretty neat if they ported it to PC and consoles with some gameplay upgrades. For a mobile fighter it’s pretty good.
I miss Mr. Brevik for those above reasons. He was super responsive to the community, especially for a guy who was that high up in the company. I had a few interactions with him via Twitter that left me with a very positive impression of him. He said he was leaving to get back to making games, so that's cool.
Edit: Apparently it was to go make 'It Lurks Below', whatever that is.
Actually it’s Sentry.
Didn’t mean to be critical but my reaction was like “wait what” when I heard that. That’s all.
Anyways what do you guys think of the roster? I’d like to think I made some pretty good creative picks in the midst of the expected ones.
It Lurks Below is supposedly a game like Minecraft or Terraria but more of a Roguelike (which I don’t get, Terraria in particular can already pretty much be called a Roguelike). Actually screenshots look exactly like Terraria. But good luck to him.
He was a fun guy and I remember having Brevik’s Cowbell as an in-game item. He seems like he’d fit in with the MWM team.
I see Juggernaut, so I'd be down. I usually play mid-range to slightly faster characters, so it was strange that I would gravitate (eventually) towards someone like Juggernaut in Marvel Heroes. Perhaps I was looking for a change of pace. It certainly didn't hurt that they came out with his Kuurth costume. Banded metal biceps and glow lines? SOLD.
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I'll explain some of the more creative picks (the ones that one wouldn't think of at first) on top of the whole "unexpected characters are a core part of crossovers" deal.
[b]Ghost[/b] - Not only will this character be getting more exposure thanks to the MCU, but his weapons, tech, and power suit giving him ghost abilities would be fun to work with.
[b]Enchantress[/b] - One of Thor's greatest villains and her use of energy blasts, mind control, time manipulation and illusions would make for an awesome magic zoner.
[b]X-23[/b] - Was in MvC3 and is a major fan-favorite, fits a different interpretation of Wolverine's style.
[b]Annihilus[/b] - Gives us a space-oriented villain with a unique design and could be well-suited for rushdowns (fast, has flight and energy blasts).
[b]Super-Skrull[/b] - On top of being in MvC3, having all the powers of the Fantastic Four is a good compromise to not having the F4 themselves since it'd be hard to make them distinctive on their own.
[b]Spider-Woman[/b] - More Spidey representation, but would play markedly different. She has flight, pheromone manipulation, and energy blasts which all lend themselves well to a unique playstyle.
[b]Cloak & Dagger[/b] - Fits the role of the dual-character. I imagine that you'd pick either Cloak or Dagger to lead while the other acts as an assist, and being able to time it right is essential.
[b]Nico Minoru[/b] - The Runaways have always been "that" book throughout the '00s, but rarely got rep outside the comics. It's time to change that. Her unique magic abilities, namely the fact that she could only use a spell once, could lead to a special trait where she has powerful moves that she can only use once a match. Also, Old Lace could be an assist.
[b]Gwenpool[/b] - Despite being a thematic combination of Deadpool and Gwen Stacy, she has a distinct style. She favors dual handguns, has a personal forcefield, and can use a bike mounted with a minigun. Oh, and we could get some awesome interactions between her and Deadpool.
[b]Taskmaster[/b] - Was in MvC3 and has a diverse style with martial arts and various weapons, plus he's a major fan-favorite for comic readers.
[b]Sentinel[/b] - MvC lineage, X-Men representation, robot representation, and gives us a mighty glacier. I don't see the problem.
[b]Dazzler[/b] - Yes, she started as a fad super cashing on disco. But she has the power to utilize music into light beams, plus she uses rollerskates. Sounds really cool for a fighter.
[b]Armor[/b] - Not the most well-known X-Men related character, but still a cool one nonetheless. Her ability to create a large psionic exoskeleton around herself that beefs her up would give us a unique character. Specifically, a female glacier, which is hard to come by in fighters.
[b]Moon Knight[/b] - Why not include Marvel's Batman? His use of moon-themed gadgets combined with hand-to-hand martial arts would give us a Batman-like character in such a game.
[b]Ms. Marvel[/b] - To be honest, I don't really consider this all that creative. Kamala is one of Marvel's most successful characters to come recently, so she should by all logic be included. Her having the ability to grow, shrink, shapeshift, enlarge limbs plus having Lockjaw as an assist is all we need.
What do you guys think?
Well, I think it needs mentioned it's sound not just music on Dazzler's part. :p
I continue to hate Gwenpool. :p
Always need more Jessica Drew :)
According to this, they sold, not shipped over 1 million. https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2018/may/08/marvel-vs-capcom-infinites-sales-havent-increased-much-1-million-sold-2017-according-financial-report/
And Sentry is close to superman, but also Gladiator is pretty close to him too.
It's a pretty decent game, lovecraftish and pixelated. Definitely an indie title. He didn't leave specifically to do that though, he was essentially pushed out. He was very good with the community, but they weren't making enough money. One the MHO push to consoles, they really started pushing monetization, but it was too late, and Disney pulled the license.
After having posted about the roster, I've been thinking hard about how an official answer to DC's Injustice series would play out. If this was the answer, and a game like this was real, would you play?
I'll break it down individually.
[b]Premise[/b]
The game, as the title would indicate, takes inspiration from the Secret Wars storyline while doing its own thing. Basically, like how Injustice imagined a new DC Universe, Secret Wars uses a new Marvel Universe.
After numerous Incursions destroy the Multiverse, Doctor Doom and Doctor Strange manage to confront the Beyonders, and Doom steals the omnipotent abilities for himself. With it, he creates a new planet called Battleworld, which is made up of the various collapsed worlds. With that, the various heroes and villains of the new world only know Battleworld (eight years having passed in-universe), aside from a handful of heroes that were in the Future Foundation's Life Raft -- namely Spider-Man, Thor, Star-Lord and Captain Marvel.
There are a number of different locations in this new world, due to consisting of various different worlds. With that, the heroes must band together to restore the world they once knew, at least in some capacity, but that's only if they can survive the various forces awaiting them...
[b]Gameplay[/b]
A 2D fighting game with a large cast of diverse characters. Each character has a unique Trait similar to Injustice, which sets them apart from others. Fights can be 1v1 or 2v2. Each character has a meter which can enable special moves or an Ultimate which unleashes the whole meter to do a deadly attack.
The game has a comic book art style as opposed to a "realistic" one. It's made to look like the pages of a comic have come to life, and oozes that personality everywhere. The soundtrack also fits, being of a variety of genres depending on the character in question, and fits them perfectly.
Each character has various skins, such as their default one and ones taken from other places in the comics (examples, Captain Marvel has her old Ms. Marvel costume as an alt, and Spider-Man has the "Bombastic Bag-Man" alt).
There are a variety of stages, including but not limited to: Asgard, Times Square, Wakanda, Latveria, Xavier's School, and Xandar. There's also special stages that draw specifically from Battleworld.
[b]Roster[/b]
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Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Wolverine, Nova, Doctor Doom, Spider-Man, Spider-Woman, Cloak & Dagger, Deadpool, Hawkeye, Magneto, Juggernaut, Psylocke, Armor, Captain Marvel, Star-Lord, She-Hulk.
[b]Bottom[/b]
Ant-Man, Ghost, Enchantress, Doctor Strange, X-23, Annihilus, Super-Skrull, Doctor Octopus, Black Panther, Nico Minoru, Gwenpool, Taskmaster, Storm, Sentinel, Dazzler, Moon Knight, Ms. Marvel, Rocket Raccoon, Thanos.
The roster encompasses all kinds of characters from the A-list classics to the lesser-known. Each character would be chosen not just for their fame, but gameplay potential, leading to interesting picks. As mentioned, each one has a Trait and an Ultimate. I'll post a list below.
Here's the list. This'll give you an idea of what kind of gameplay they'd have.
Annihilus
Trait: Exoskeleton – Increases his durability and gains more air-based abilities for a duration.
Ultimate: Armada – Unleashes the Annihilation Wave to send a large number of his followers to attack his opponent at once.
Ant-Man
Trait: Shrink – Shifts into the size of an ant, making him much harder to his and allowing more moves.
Ultimate: Someone Your Own Size… – Calls in an army of fire-ants to attack his opponent, and then finishes them off by growing into Giant-Man and slamming them into the ground.
Armor
Trait: Samurai– Forms a samurai sword, which gives her extended range and new moves but eliminates others until the stance is cancelled.
Ultimate: Arsenal – Creates a variety of different weapons and beats down her opponent with them, before finishing them off with a giant hammer.
Black Panther
Trait: Energy Absorption – Unleashes hits taken (either landed or blocked) in a powerful burst depending on the build-up.
Ultimate: Maul – As the title suggest, he mauls his opponent repeatedly with his claws.
Captain America
Trait: Shield – Stance that places his shield in front of him, giving him unique moves while eliminating others until the stance is cancelled.
Ultimate: Justice Bringer – Knocks his opponent in the air and throws his shield to deliver a devastating attack.
Captain Marvel
Trait: Binary – Goes into her Binary state, marked by her a flaming aura. It temporarily increases her attack power.
Ultimate: Supernova – Creates a miniature sun and throws it at her opponent.
Cloak & Dagger
Trait: Partner – Calls either Cloak or Dagger (depending on character selected) to attack, with different variations depending on button combination.
Ultimate: Darkness & Light – Cloak transports the opponent to the Darkforce Dimension, and attacks the opponent with dark matter, just as Dagger creates a giant light dagger to finish them off.
Dazzler
Trait: In the Groove – Switch song-types (disco, rock, electronic etc.) to give her abilities different effects.
Ultimate: The Power of Music – Creates a giant disco area where Dazzler absorbs all the energy, and then blasts her opponent in one strike.
Deadpool
Trait: Healing Factor – Heals his wounds to a certain degree, but cannot attack while during the process.
Ultimate: Overkill – Performs gun kata which he mixes his martial arts with guns and swords, slashing and shooting his opponent one after another, before finishing them off with a grenade.
Doctor Doom
Trait: Summoner – Summons a demonic creature to his aide for a brief period.
Ultimate: Hellbound – Grabs his opponent and takes them to Hell, where they’re attacked by a horde of demons, and Doom finishes them off with a blast of lightning.
Doctor Octopus
Trait: Octo-Stance – Uses two of his tentacles to do stand, giving him better aerial options and new moves.
Ultimate: Striking Power – Holds the opponent with two arms, and strikes them repeatedly with the other two, before throwing them away.
Doctor Strange
Trait: Astral Projection – Releases his astral form from his body, which greatly increases his speed and attack power, albeit leaving his body vulnerable.
Ultimate: Duplication – Creates many clones of himself to surround the opponent, and all of them attack with mystical powers simultaneously.
Enchantress
Trait: Time Disruption – Slows down time within her vicinity while she remains at normal speed, allowing her easy combos.
Ultimate: Illusionist – Creates an illusion of various creatures attacking her opponent, and then finishes them off with a giant stomping on them.
Ghost
Trait: Ghost Form – Turns on the invisibility in his suit, making him nearly unable to be seen, and thus giving the player a tactical advantage.
Ultimate: Deathly Surprise – Turns invisible, phases through the ground and appears behind the opponent. He then plants an explosive on their back, which detonates afterwards.
Gwenpool
Trait: Explosions – Creates a random “accidental” explosion that happens to be near the opponent’s vicinity.
Ultimate: Boom! – Takes out a heatseeking rocket launcher and blasts the opponent with it repeatedly.
Hawkeye
Trait: Trick Arrow – Selects between a number of different arrows (fire, electricity, ice) that has different effects but can only be used once per meter.
Ultimate: Archery Assault – Shoots various kinds of arrows in a single barrage at the opponent, including fire, electricity, and ice.
Hulk
Trait: You Wouldn’t Like Me When I’m Angry… – Gets angrier for a period, which increases his attack power and regenerates his health to an extent.
Ultimate: Hulk Smash! – Grabs the opponent by the leg and replicates the iconic move from the MCU.
Iron Man
Trait: Overclock – Charges his suit with electricity, increasing his speed and projectile potency.
Ultimate: Death from Above – Sends an army of suits to grab his opponent, and then fires a gigantic laser from his chest to finish them off.
Juggernaut
Trait: Cyttorak Empowerment – Increases his speed for a period to deliver his high-power attacks at a very fast rate.
Ultimate: Wraith of the Juggernaut – Grabs the opponent by the neck and unleashes a beatdown before stomping on them.
Magneto
Trait: Magnetic Forcefield – Surrounds himself with a forcefield that makes him immune to damage briefly.
Ultimate: Master of Magnetism – Forms a bunch of metal around the opponent and throws them a great distance, before blasting them with multiple beams of magnetic rays.
Moon Knight
Trait: Power of Khonshu – Temporarily increases his strength and projectile speed through the power of the god he worships.
Ultimate: Divine Punishment – Grapples around his opponent with his grappling hook to tie them in place, and then calls in the Mooncopter piloted by du Champ to deliver a blast of death.
Ms. Marvel
Trait: Embiggen – Grows large, which slows her down but increases her damage.
Ultimate: Morpho – Stretches and grabs her opponent, before tossing them around like a ragdoll.
Nico Minoru
Trait: Staff of One – Nico has a wide variety of special moves that can change the course of the fight, but can only be used once during the match.
Ultimate: Blood Magic – Uses the Staff of One to create a variety of effects that all attack the opponent, namely ice, a rain of bats, and a finally a sword.
Nova
Trait: Nova Force – Nova’s power increases over the course of the match, which he unleashes at once with the press of a button.
Ultimate: Human Rocket – Blasts through his opponent at full speed, deliver a massive and flame-enhanced punch.
Psylocke
Trait: Psionic Weapons – Utilize different weapons in combat, such as her katana, crossbow, bow and arrow, and claws.
Ultimate: Death Strike – Uses her katana to deliver a number of deadly strike, and finishes them off with a swift blow to the neck.
Rocket Raccoon
Trait: Gun for Hire – Uses various guns with different effects, depending on the one selected.
Ultimate: The Best Pilot in the Galaxy – Jumps in his ship and blasts his opponent with everything he’s got.
Sentinel
Trait: Sentinel Force – Summons other sentinels to perform commands depending on the input.
Ultimate: Sentinel Beatdown – Sentinel and others join together to beat down his opponent.
She-Hulk
Trait: Special Training – Slows down her meter, allowing her to perform special moves for less.
Ultimate: Judge, Jury and Executioner – Grabs her opponent and spins them around quickly, before throwing them away. Then she tosses a car that lands directly on them.
Spider-Man
Trait: Way of the Spider – Alternate stance that changes his move set to a more precision-based one.
Ultimate: All Webbed Up – Completely encases his opponent in webbing before sling them up in the air and dropping them down to the ground.
Spider-Woman
Trait: Venom Blast – Shoots a blast of bio-electricity that if landed will stun her opponent temporarily and leave them open to an attack.
Ultimate: Spider Attack – Flies through the air to deliver multiple attacks in different directions, then finishes them off with an enhanced Venom Blast.
Star-Lord
Trait: Jet Boots – Alternate stance that gives Star-Lord aerial control.
Ultimate: Showtime, A-Holes! – Barrage of laser that repeatedly strike his opponent down.
Storm
Trait: Goddess of Weather – Temporarily increases the power of her projectiles while keeping her in the air.
Ultimate: Elemental Fury – Summons a variety of different weather attacks, such as thunder, earthquakes, wind, and lightning, to strike down her opponent.
Super-Skrull
Trait: All for One – Enables the powers of the Fantastic Four to be used at once, giving him more potential for damage in a period.
Ultimate: Fantastic – Delivers a beatdown to his opponent that involves the use of all the Fantastic Four’s powers.
Taskmaster
Trait: Photographic Memory – Temporarily enables him to use combos easier than before and chain them with little effort.
Ultimate: Variety of Death – Beat his opponent down with a shield and sword upclose, before knocking them away and shooting an arrow at them. Finally, he tosses a grenade and it explodes.
Thanos
Trait: Turn to Stone – Shoots a beam that, if hit, will temporarily turn his opponent into a statue.
Ultimate: Moon Drop – Telekinetically breaks down a moon and drops the pieces on the opponent.
Thor
Trait: Lightning – Surrounds himself with lightning and gives him extra projectiles while giving his punches extra bleed out damage.
Ultimate: God of Thunder – Drops Mjölnir on his opponent to keep them in place, and then summons a massive lightning strike on top of them.
Wolverine
Trait: Feral State – Temporarily enters an animal-like state, which increases his speed and regenerates a degree of damage.
Ultimate: Cut to Pieces – Unleashes a variety of slashes using his adamantium claws.
X-23
Trait: Assassin – Temporarily increases the range of the blades on her hands and feet.
Ultimate: Circle of Death – Does three somersaults that slashes her opponent with bladed attacks.
That's interesting. I hadn't heard that he was pushed out. As for the monetization and push to console, that was after I had stopped playing but I had certainly heard things along those lines.
What I'd love to see is a DC vs. Marvel fighting game.
But companies are dicks so this probably will never happen...
Unless Disney ends up acquiring DC as well at some point in the future.
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
I know you sort of said this like it was a joke but I actually wouldn't put it past Disney to eventually manage to accomplish that at some point. Imagine a fighting game with at least 4 different factions: Marvel, DC, Star Wars and Disney Princesses. ;)
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Where would Princess Leia sit? Star Wars or Disney Princess? Also would Disney acquiring DC make Wonder Woman a Disney Princess?
Also I'm imagining this like Smash Bros.
Also also where's our Avengers Incredibles crossover, Disney!?
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
Oh I'm sure they'd figure all that out. But yeah ever since Disney got Star Wars they've been retconning Leia as a "Disney Princess" and I'm sure they'd try to do that with Wonder Woman too. If you think about it though it might make more sense for them to push for Supergirl to be the Disney Princess. She just seems a bit more "princess-y" than Wonder Woman could be if for no other reason than that she's younger and already Barbie-doll like to begin with.
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Though not a princess (though some of the Disney ones aren't either).
Starfire could be a good candidate. Young, a princess.
But really they can make Wonder Woman whatever age they like.
*Shrugs*
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
Let's face it - once Disney takes over the world they can make -anything- be the way they like. ;)
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How’s my idea?
I play quite a few fighting games but don't know much of the mechanics.
Having all the Runaways as a character option might work better, giving them a bit more representation. For how that works look to the Ginyu Force in Dragon Ball Fighter Z. Then they could use one of Nico's spells as an ultimate attack and/or calling down the leapfrog to land on their foe.
Also no Loki? People love Loki. Also Winter Soldier (though having Bucky Cap as an alternate costume for Cap could work)
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
If they made a game where they allowed you to create your own superhero, that would be awesome. You have the choice, much like CoH, to choose your 'roots' (magic, mutation, etc). You can pick and choose powers/abilities within a limit. Chargen customization like CoH/CoV. I'm not a fan of games where you are foced to play as x person and not your own person. So basically if it were CoT but in the marvel universe...with their financial backing, lore, history, etc, etc, etc. I think that would be a game changer.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.
I tried putting myself in the position of a dev, and I was wondering what you thought of the mechanics I proposed? Also, idk how to make Loki and WS unique (I know MvCI had WS but he looked generic and boring).
Anyways, I think a game like this could be huge if Marvel was willing to partner with someone to make it.
I can't speak on mechanics, if a fighting game feels good to play I'll play it. Differences in characters don't matter much to me either, if I like a character I'll play them, if they're moves are easy to pull off all the better.
And I assume Marvel's already partnered with Capcom when it comes to fighting games... Or at least non-mobile ones.
But yeah, I think the marvel brand is strong enough (especially now with their movies) to be able to hold up a fighting game on their own.
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I just hope they’ve learned by now not to draw solely on the movies. It’s a major reason for why MvCI was so poorly received.
A lot of criticisms were about the changes to mechanics and art style. With a little bit of dropping some roster staples which was based on what marvel was pushing at the time, or not.
So very little to do with the movies.
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I like the idea. I was going to argue that building a character’s move sets and such might be unbalanced, but to be fair most fighting games are unbalanced anyway. You typically have “good” characters that everyone wants to play and “bad” ones people play just for an extra challenge. So that probably doesn’t really matter.
What do you mean? I’ve seen plenty complaining about the entire game being nothing more than MCU propaganda.
Two words
Soul Calibur
SC is one of the most anticipated titles for a reason, and on of those reasons is the question of "Will character creation make a return?"
The devs also mentioned the appeal of a character creation system, , and said it “can’t be taken away, so keep an eye out for that.”
http://www.player.one/soulcalibur-soul-calibur-6-vi-features-new-character-creation-122320
Many MK fans are hoping MK11 includes such as system. Tekken even started to include some type of customization, as-well as Injustice. Imo, X-Men would not have saved MvCI. What can however is bringing in more players. I think the notion of character creation for non-ranked matches will appeal to those whom were raised on RPG, Arcade modes and playing with friends. Shoot, you can even put created characters in ranked matches, just copy a hero's move template.
As a child, I thought my name was handsome, cause that is what everyone called me.
If it was nothing more than MCU propaganda it wouldn't have Ghost Rider in it, or Nova, or gamora. Draxx and Star Lord are more popular characters. Also it can't be completely MCU propaganda when they have Capcom characters in it.
The roster is more about what characters Marvel were highlighting at the time (which yes, includes movie characters) X-MEN and Fantastic Four are absent because Marvel distanced themselves from those brands to not give any advertising to their movie rivals, so it plays a small part there. But rosters change all the time with fighting games.
And no matter what someone thought of the roster the addition of characters or omissions of some won't suddenly make a game better. If the gameplay is bad, it's bad. If the art style looks bad, no amount of X-Men characters will make it better.
It recieved average scores mostly due to how it looked and sounded, and the smaller roster than the previous game. So bad visuals, lackluster sound design, a smaller roster, and changes to core mechanics that alienated long time fans.
Not hard to see why it didn't do so well.
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
MK had a character creator before, or at least some type of customizable character... Wasn't that great.
I love Soul Calibur's character creator, except in SC 4. Stats on clothes, what we're they thinking?
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Dude you know what I meant. Compare how comics-inspired MvC3 is vs how movie-inspired MvCI is. It’s easy to see what I mean.
They went for a more realistic style and it didn't go over well.
Marvel Ultimate Alliance did the same thing and it's visuals are kinda lacking too.
For the next one they should do something like Dragon Ball Fighter Z, that game looks amazing.
From a quick google search some of the marvel designs are close to movie designs but others aren't. Gamora is in this white armor, Dr. Strange looks more like comic Strange, Cap is super wide and very brightly colored, Hawkeye and Thor look a lot like their comic counterparts, at least at certain points in the comics.
So, other than the more "realistic" visuals I'm not really seeing it.
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
I was actually playing around with Soul Calibur 2 on my Cube not long ago, so it's good to know that they're coming out with a new SC... except a quick Google search says they haven't announced Cervantes as a playable character yet... >8(
You say it like Marvel burying X-Men and F4 to smite Fox at the expense of their fans is somehow a good thing. Fans have been sick of the MCU being shoehorned in everything even before MvCI, and that just made it worse.
Also were you not there during the whole “functions” debacle when a Capcom rep said that was why Wolverine, Magneto and Deadpool weren’t in the game? I think that was proof that pushing the MCU literally everywhere was a bad idea.
I wasn't there for that, I don't follow Marvel vs. Capcom news very closely.
And that's not the MCU being shoehorned anywhere they didn't add any MCU stuff they removed non-Disney owned properties from a thing. Which is going to change once Disney gets their stuff back.
But either way a slight roster change doesn't ruin a game. I doubt anyone was buying the game just for these characters. And I doubt the game's lack of success is because they don't have 3 characters. So I don't count it as proof that the prevalence of the MCU had anything to do with the game's low sales. Especially when other criticisms of the game exist such as; lackluster presentation, bad sound design, and changes to game mechanics (which would sour the game to long time fans).
You build a good game and people will buy and play it, you build a bad/lackluster game and people don't.
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“Slight roster change” is an interesting way to refer to them cutting a whopping 26 characters and only giving us 6 new ones. Also, Disney already owned X-Men and F4 and could fully use them in the game. They just didn’t have the film rights, and they were being petty about it.
You named 3 characters that were cut I assumed that was all of them. Again I don't follow Marvel vs Capcom news.
Yeah, the smaller roster is another complaint. But I don't know what sort of development the game had, so it could be for a reason, be it deadlines or whatever.
They didn't do that to be petty. They did it so as to not give their film making rivals free advertising. It was a corporate decision.
But a small roster could have been bolstered easily from Marvel's extensive lineup even without the X-Men or Fantastic Four but if there were design restraints on doing so I'll likely never know.
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
On the plus side, it did help condense the mutant population, that was way out of hand in the comics :p
Again?
Do we need another house of M "No More Mutants"?
Also Sentinels need to step up their game.
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Yeah, that's what we call "being petty". They were only hurting themselves with that decision, and that kind of logic makes no sense. "The X-Men and FF are synonymous with Marvel, better throw them under the bus because we can't make movies about them!". It lead to such cringey scenarios like the Inhumans being pushed as the new X-Men/mutants, or Carol suddenly being treated like she's the greatest female Marvel superhero when she's always been a B-lister at best and was treated such as by both fans and writers.
26 characters were cut from MvCI, enough to make a roster of its own. Did they think that fans were going to be fine with that "because it promotes the MCU!"? That's some bass ackwards logic if I've seen it. In fact, let's look at each cut Marvel character:
Wolverine
Magneto
Deadpool
Storm
Sentinel
X-23
Phoenix
Doctor Doom
Super-Skrull
Shuma-Gorath
M.O.D.O.K.
She-Hulk
Taskmaster
Iron Fist
What do they all have in common? They aren't MCU stars (apart from Iron Fist, though saying he's a "star" is stretching it), and thus were cut. That's why we ended up with a boring roster with no creativity or heart. In fact, of the new ones they [i]did[/i] add...
Captain Marvel
Gamora
Ultron
Black Panther
Black Widow
Winter Soldier
What do they all have in common? They [i]are[/i] MCU stars! This goes beyond being "influenced" by the MCU, the whole game is one big advertisement for the franchise and nothing more. That's why it's so offensive, because these games are supposed to draw on the comics, not plug for the movies.
How is a sensible business decision being petty?
And the fantastic four are probably closer associated with the terrible movies than with Marvel comics. Same with the X-Men and their movies (which have more of a mixed response)
Hell some people don't even know that the comics are even still being made. Even for big name MCU characters.
The MCU is the most profitable thing to come out of Marvel in decades, trying to capitalize on it makes a whole ton of sense.
Ultimately, the roster could (and probably would knowing Capcom's love for DLC) have been expanded, they could have added in all the characters they removed... And people still wouldn't buy the game. Visually it's trying too hard to look like Injustice, the sound design apparently sucks, and there were gameplay changes that long time fans didn't like. To blame it's failure solely on the prevalence and success of Marvel's most successful thing to date, while ignoring any of the other factors that could have made this game a no go to fans and newcomers alike, is just showing bias.
Also, what's wrong with Carol? She's awesome.
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
I wasn't aware the games were only supposed to draw on the comics. Then again, I n ever did get into those games.
Um, I get that it's their big moneymaker but using that as an excuse to shoehorn it in EVERYTHING has pissed people off, and it's shown. You can't just cut a bunch of characters people like, and expect them to be OK with it because Disney wanted to smite Fox. The Marvel Universe is a whole, well, universe so trying to only make the stars of the movies the only ones you see is seriously limiting in scope and potential. DC, for all their faults regarding the DCEU, at least knows to keep it a separate entity and their material is all the better for it. I'm tired of people acting like appearing in a major MCU role is some kind of rite of passage that's needed to appear anywhere else. They're comic characters, these are comic adaptations, it's fair game.
And what do you even mean? The F4 are Marvel's First Family and the X-Men were the Marvel icons from the '80s all the way to the '00s. Saying "because movies" makes no sense.
And as for Carol? They turned her into a fascist bully who arrests people for thought crimes, for one.
There's quite a few people who only know of the fantastic four from the movies and television shows, they might be Marvel's first family but that's not really advertised anywhere. They're in comics and that's not advertised anywhere. Most people probably thought that the fantastic four movies were based on the fantastic four cartoons.
Same with the X-Men. Most folks have probably seen the X-Men movies, some have seen the X-Men cartoons, fewer still read the comics.
There's probably a large number of people who know who the marvel characters are, but not what they're from. I'd wager that most people don't even know they can go out and buy a Guardians of the Galaxy comic that was released recently. Hell until the movie most people probably didn't even know who the Guardians of the Galaxy were.
Back to the game. Did people like those characters because they like the Marvel characters or because they were mainstays in the roster of this fighting game? I bet a lot more people liked Wolverine being in it because "He was cool and I know how to do all his combos." Usually if there's big roster changes in a long running fighting game series there's some backlash. But again this has very little to do with the MCU and more to do with the fact that a lot of people just don't like change.
And yeah, DC, despite it's numerous faults does have a few (somewhat)successful seperate universes of DC stuff. From the cartoons, movies, animated movies, TV shows, etc. And I'd like Marvel to do a bit more like that, at least give us some more animated movies (well, Enter the Spiderverse is coming out, so there's hope there?), But it's also really cool to me that shows like Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Daredevil, Iron Fist, and Punisher all share the same universe as the guys on the big screen. It's rad as heck, but that does also mean they have to conform somewhat to a specific image.
Kind of like how everything LOTR has to be like the LOTR movies. Which sucks, cause I'd love to see more than two people's visions on the stuff.
And I didn't know they did that to Carol, except in the civil war 2 comic(s) seems comic book civil war continues to ruin all it touches.
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
I think you need to give people a little more credit than that. Sure, movies are the biggest profits but they're still best known for being comic book characters and have resonated with a massive audience as the years gone by.
Have to agree with Hybrid. I know people who have never read a comic and they know that comics are still being made and are a thing :p
I'd say the one thing people don't realize, is the MCU is seperate from the DCEU and the X-Men Franchise :p Which are, you know, the big time movies :p
Here's how I imagine each character would play, just to show you why I chose them.
Annihilus - Rushdown type involving his flight, speed and energy blasts.
Ant-Man - Relies on confusing the opponent by timing his shrinking abilities just right, along with some projectiles involving ants and assists from Wasp.
Armor - Glacier type who uses different grapples and construct weapons, plus a katana stance.
Black Panther - Uses mixups, and a core part of his gameplay involving his energy absorption Trait that must be unleashed at the right time.
Captain America - Defensive character where using the Shield is important to keeping the enemy from advancing.
Captain Marvel - Powerhouse who uses great mobility combined with high attack power to deliver strong attacks. While not the strongest overall, she makes up for it as a jack-of-all-stats.
Cloak & Dagger - Fits the dual-character set up, where one chooses to be either Cloak or Dagger and the other assists. Timing the assists just right, as well as their abilities, is essential.
Dazzler - Uses different effects based on song-types depending on the situation, is highly mobile with projectiles.
Deadpool - Keepaway who has great versatility with his guns and swords. His healing factor is also useful.
Doctor Doom - Projectile-based character who uses spells to keep his opponent at a distance.
Doctor Octopus - Heavily air-maneuverable with great mix-up potential involving his tentacles, along with specializing at ranged melee attacks.
Doctor Strange - Zoner who uses magic spells and with a variety of different effects to confuse the opponent.
Enchantress - Specializes in illusions, can slow down time in her vicinity, and is good as an airborne fighter.
Ghost - Fittingly, he involves being ghostly by using his invisibility and intangibility to get avoid attacks, sneak on his opponent, and make their life hell.
Gwenpool - Uses her inherent unpredictability to confuse and lay the pressure in combat.
Hawkeye - Fights primarily with projectiles, using special arrows at the right time is essential along with playing keepaway.
Hulk - All-around powerhouse who can deal heavy damage and juggle his opponent for a long time, at the expensive of lacking projectiles.
Iron Man - Zoning character that utilizes various weaponry in combat and is fast, with is Trait upping both temporarily.
Juggernaut - Defensive grappler who uses his overall power and forcefields to keep damage off himself, and can use his Trait to make himself temporarily faster.
Magneto - Zoning character that specializes in his various energy blasts and magnet-based projectiles, and can give himself temporary invulnerability with his magnetic forcefield.
Moon Knight - Mixup and combo-oriented, with some gadgets to close the distance. His Trait allows him to increase his power which makes him even deadlier.
Ms. Marvel - Varies between her normal-sized form that has average damage, but faster attacks, and the Embiggen trait that slows her but increases her damage. Also uses Lockjaw for assists.
Nico Minoru - Keepaway character who uses various spells, flight, telekinesis as well as Old Lace to deliver damage, and has a special trait where she can use powerful moves -- but only once.
Nova - Rushdown character with fast combos and special fire projectiles, and his power builds over the course of the match which he can unleash in a super mode.
Psylocke - Uses various different psionic weapons both upclose and at a distance, and is heavily combo-oriented.
Rocket Raccoon - Specializes in using his small size and weapons to make it hard to be hit by the opponent, can call Groot for assists.
Sentinel - Zoning specialist with its various weapons, and can call other sentinels to perform assist commands.
She-Hulk - Mixup and rushdown-based character. Very strong, though not as strong as some others she's faster to compensate. Her Trait means she can use specials for greatly reduced cost.
Spider-Man - Quick and highly mobile, with great mixup potential and can close the gap with his web-slinging. His Trait gives him an alternate, precision-based fighting stance.
Spider-Woman - Often airborne also a close-range fighter, and has a Trait that can stun her opponent in place to leave them open.
Star-Lord - Aerial-based zoner, he uses his guns, gadgets and jet boots to keep his opponent away from him at all time.
Storm - Versatile fighter who can use her weather effects to both attack and defend, but has high risk, low reward for hand-to-hand.
Super-Skrull - Rushdown character who utilizes the various F4 powers to keep his enemies off-balance.
Taskmaster - Combo-based fighter, he excels in stringing combos together and his Trait allows him to do with ease.
Thanos - Powerhouse, capable to doing serious damage if he gets the chance. His Trait, which turns in opponent into a statue, makes it easier to do so.
Thor - Powerhouse who lacks ground mobility but makes up for it with air mobility, and has powerful lightning-based combos. His Trait amplifies them, allowing him to bleed damage just from punching people.
Wolverine - Rushdown and mixup character who is appropriately savage upclose, and is a fast fighter with unrelenting brutality. He can also enter a feral state which increases it and heals him.
X-23 - Similar to Wolverine, though she lacks some of the power she makes up for it with even greater mobility and agility, fitting of an assassin.
I like all those ideas and they fit the characters. I'm not sure of the MvC setup so I can 't speak on the mechanics too much.
On the the other topic, I personally work and live with people that I've had to explain about the comics thing too. T heir are people out there that do not much if anything about comics in general. Explained to a customer that Judge Dredd is a comic character. For that matter, I remember telling people about Blade's comics. Not a fan of the whole X-Men franchise . I like the first and second one, I think the casting was pretty spot on and it did give me one of my favorite X-men. No, not Colossus *shakes tiny impotent fist at Fox* but Nightcrawler. I'm not sure what the DCEU is. I can say, regarding, the FF movies the last one seemed to have bombed and for various reasons. (Guys, turn on a frackin light!)
I posted this on the Game Ideas Wiki. What do you guys think?
http://gameideas.wikia.com/wiki/Marvel:_Secret_Wars
Superman = Sentry and/or Blue Marvel
Ironman = Cyborg and/or Booster Gold
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Yeah I'm aware that the two companies have been "borrowing" character ideas from each other for decades. I was saying I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Marvel had a character literally [b]named[/b] "Superman" or that DC had a character literally [b]named[/b] "Iron Man". We were talking about character [b]names[/b] being copied after all.
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DC doesn’t have an Iron Man but there was a Canadian superhero named Iron Man created for Maple Leaf Publishing in 1941. He first appeared 22 years before the Marvel character.
Canadian Iron Man
By the way, while Googling around and trying to find alternative Supermen I just saw news that Margot Kidder (Lois Lane from the 80s movies) died today. :(
Awww that's a bummer. She'll probably always be my favorite live action Lois Lane (with maybe Phyllis Coates as a close second).
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Yeah she’s the first Lois Lane I really think of when hearing the name. I believe she had suffered from some psychological issues the last decade or more of her life. A shame, I thought she was a really good Lois. My sympathies to whatever family she had that survives her passing.
"A sad spectacle. If they be inhabited, what a scope for misery and folly. If they be not inhabited, what a waste of space." ~ Thomas Carlyle
Favorite live action Lois has to be Teri Hatcher.
I’m partial to Erica Durance (Smallville) myself.
Um, has this kind of veered off-topic?
All threads eventually go off topic. It is their destiny.
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
This is sad proof they don't teach you Millennials anything in school anymore. Next we'll have some fool say Amy Adams or (god-forbid) Kate Bosworth did a good job with the role. ;)
Yeah I wouldn't get your collective panties in a bunch over ANY thread meandering off-topic eventually. It's not like ANY thread topic is going to be worth talking about forever.
Besides it's not everyday an iconic comic book oriented actor passes away. Cut Margot Kidder the grace of a handful of posts before we resume talking about a hypothetical non-existent game that have players playing characters that OTHER people created decades ago.
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Whoa whoa whoa. I said Teri Hatcher and you think Millennial?
I wish I was still that young :p
Eh it was barely over 20 years ago. I figure only a kid at the time would've liked [i]Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman[/i]. I distinctly remember barely managing to slog through a few episodes of it tops.
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LOL I’m technically old enough to be a Millennial’s dad. :p
I liked Erica as a tough gal who could take care of herself in a fight and really gave Clark a run for his money, personality-wise. Definitely my favorite portrayal of the character.
But it’s not like that’s the Lois I grew up with, I was in my 30s when it aired...
In Margot’s defense though, her “pain in the neck” line before the punch was pretty good. I really loved Superman II. Zod’s one of my favorite movie villains ever. He just oozed menace in a distinguished way.
That's fine... I'm just pulling your collective chains. It's simply easy (and frankly usually fun) to assume that when people like relatively "newer" versions of things versus the "older" that they are silly Millennials. But seriously if anyone out there actually liked Kate Bosworth the best I'd go ballistic. For starters we were supposed to believe she supposedly had like a 5 year old kid when she herself didn't look much older than maybe 20 in the movie (she was literally only 23 IRL at the time). Are we meant to accept Supes had his way with like a 15 year old?!?!
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Well, I was a teen :p
Did not care for the Superman has a kid. Hated Kevin Spacey as Lex, but that might be because I hated how Superman Returns wanted to be Reeves Superman with a slight a retcon :p
It did however have some good lines and some great Superman scenes. Love the saving of the city and lifting the boat out of the water. :)
definitely was not (and am not) a fan of the Brandon Routh version of Supes...he just didn't "do it" for me due to a number of reasons: to young looking, not rugged enough looking, not big enough, etc... as a whole just wasn't a fan of Superman Returns. Henry Cavill though works for me and I really enjoy/enjoyed MoS. he has the size and (for me) the general 'look' of my minds eye real life Superman.
regarding a new Marvel fighting game...I am kinda meh. I don't really do the fighting games so I would rather see them put out their own MMO where we can make our own heroes versus using their characters. the one thing I would say though is not to have the players be 'sidekicks' to the established heroes but more along the lines of "special operations". basically, the Avengers can't go stop Mister Evil as they are fighting Ultron for the umpteenth so they need the players to go stop this other world shattering villain from doing just that.
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Yeah I wasn’t really a fan of Bosworth as Lois though she was the easiest on the eyes in my opinion.
And my daughters are also millenials so I feel your pain Atama.
"A sad spectacle. If they be inhabited, what a scope for misery and folly. If they be not inhabited, what a waste of space." ~ Thomas Carlyle
Champions Online was going to be a marvel MMO so we almost had one.
I think a good set up for a Marvel MMO would be to set it during a Secret Wars time frame, all the biggest heroes and villains are somewhere off in space and in their absence new heroes and villains rise to the top (players).
Then you either bring back those characters in a later patch (once, conveniently, a bunch of people are now as big/powerful/leveled as much as them) and/or have a raid/mission chain/zone that brings your characters into the Secret Wars. As a raid it'd be a bunch of player characters doing a full assault on the enemy base while the heroes(or villains) set about doing something else, or vice versa. Or could be a co-op raid (heroes and villains mixed) to stop a Beyonder Empowered Dr. Doom. Players go to fight him as a "distraction" so that the marvel Heroes and villains can get a plan in motion.
Or something.
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
I like it. Call it [i]Marvel’s Leftovers.[/i]
I remember one marvel fighting game from some years ago that was XMEN focused. Children of the atom I think it was called. It was pretty fun.
That was the first Marvel fighting game which eventually led into Marvel vs. Capcom.
They had a couple marvel specific fighting games before capcom was introduced, and it started with Xmen vs. Street Fighter. Funny how it all started there and Marvel vs. Capcom infinite didn't have any Xmen.
Ah geez, I forgot about that game, and I played the hell out of it and the sequel. Nightcrawler was an absolute joy to play in that game.