So, i have talked with the devs and asked around in the discord a bit and figured i should ask here as well.
As i said in my other post, i make and sell embroidered patches. In celebration of Issue 0 getting closer, plus it's the holiday season and everyone loves getting free stuff this time of year, i'm planning to do a at least 5 day giveaway. Might do 12 so it fits the theme better but not sure yet how complicated my idea will be to convert to a forum rather then a facebook post.
So this post is to gauge interest in the idea plus the prizes.
Rules:
Who can play? Everyone Devs included. Doesn't matter if you just found out about CoT two seconds ago, everyone with forum access can play. For that matter, if you have friends who haven't signed up, get em to sign up.
How it works: So this is the part that will be subject to change. The forums have a contest module that isn't being used so i, and the devs i talked to aren't sure if it will work. So for now we will focus on my original idea.
Each day, probably around midnight to 3 am (mountain time) i will make two posts. The first will be the give away post. In here i will write some kind of stupid question, people that want to participate will reply to the post answering the question or just a post in the thread really. But they can only post once. The idea is to get that post count number.
The second thread each day will be more for discussions about the event or other goofy things. This way the first will stay clean with each person only posting once.
So then just before i post the next days threads, i will do a random number draw five times. from 1 to however many unique posts we had. The winners would be announced on the next days thread.
Now for the fun part: Awards. Four of the five winners each day will get to pick one patch from my store to be shipped to them for free, i even cover the shipping. Granted i just use stamps in this case to keep it cheap. So there is always the chance they will be lost, but just let me know it never showed up and i can send it out again. I have well over 200 designs to choose from. (230 to be exact) ranging from star wars, trek, gate, CoH, a number of popular video games. Plus quite a few that i have designed but haven't put on my store. Plenty to pick from.
Now the fifth winner each day, will get something slightly different. A one of a kind, custom made patch based on whatever they want (within reason of course.) Embroidery doesn't work like drawing art so we would have to go back and forth between us and figure out what the winner wants and what is doable. So this could be a design from a favorite game, movie, or even just adding a name to a patch i already make.
Anyway that's the gist of it. Not terribly complicated now that it's all spelled out.
Later on once Issue 0 is out i do plan to offer some patch rewards for costume contests but at least for now while waiting for that, this will be my way of filling the time until Christmas happens, or issue 0 which ever comes first lol.
So what do the masses think? Is this something people would be interested in? (For the record, this is something i have done once before on Facebook and it worked pretty well. Gave out 40 patches in 12 days.)
Some examples of my work:
And i have so many others, too many to post pictures of.
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Some clarifications, because I'm certain it'll come up:
a. If a person wins once, can they continue to participate to win again?
b. If someone posts more than once in the first post, are they disqualified? Do they become a pariah? Do you tell them they're a doofus and ask them to delete the second post? Do you just ignore it?
c. OMG I DON'T WANT TO PLAY BUT I STILL WANT BADGES WHAT DO I DO?????????????????????????????????????? AKA, you got a website, bro? (Also useful for looking at the over 200 designs, I'm sure.)
d. Wut?
e. Trap clowns!
Good point i figured i was forgetting something.
A: One time winners. If they win once, they are out for the event. Just to keep it fair and give others a chance.
B: If someone does post multiple times, i wont call in the Death Squad or anything, either have em delete it or if they don't, i will just ignore the number and hopefully remember to subtract it from the days total post count. Mistakes will happen.
C: Good point here too. I always feel bad posting my store link because i feel like I'm leeching adverting off CoTs fame. But in this case it sounds like a good idea. https://www.etsy.com/shop/NerdgasmEmbroidery Nerdgasm... Where embroidery gets nerdy.
D: Wut wut?
E: Trap Clowns eh? I actually made like 30 patches for a clown group once. It was strange. Trap clowns seem to be less of a thing to worry about though... How many people have a clown fetish.
Small update to the info: Those that don't live in the US are free to play as well. International stamps are pretty cheap and it works well for single patch shipping to other countries. It's not tracked of course but since they can skip customs, a lot of times they get there before tracked shipments anyway. Plus, no import taxes.
I like the idea! And I'd like to take part, definitely!
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Some clarifications, because I'm certain it'll come up:
a. If a person wins once, can they continue to participate to win again?
b. If someone posts more than once in the first post, are they disqualified? Do they become a pariah? Do you tell them they're a doofus and ask them to delete the second post? Do you just ignore it?
c. OMG I DON'T WANT TO PLAY BUT I STILL WANT BADGES WHAT DO I DO?????????????????????????????????????? AKA, you got a website, bro? (Also useful for looking at the over 200 designs, I'm sure.)
d. Wut?
e. Trap clowns!
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Edited the original post to answer these but i will post it here too.
Good point i figured i was forgetting something.
A: One time winners. If they win once, they are out for the event. Just to keep it fair and give others a chance.
B: If someone does post multiple times, i wont call in the Death Squad or anything, either have em delete it or if they don't, i will just ignore the number and hopefully remember to subtract it from the days total post count. Mistakes will happen.
C: Good point here too. I always feel bad posting my store link because i feel like I'm leeching adverting off CoTs fame. But in this case it sounds like a good idea. https://www.etsy.com/shop/NerdgasmEmbroidery Nerdgasm... Where embroidery gets nerdy.
D: Wut wut?
E: Trap Clowns eh? I actually made like 30 patches for a clown group once. It was strange. Trap clowns seem to be less of a thing to worry about though... How many people have a clown fetish.
WOW ... those are SO GOOD ...
However, there seem to be a couple of missing bits of patch iconography ...
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For masking purposes, you might want to use this image source instead when designing the programming to run the embroidery machine:
https://cityoftitans.com/sites/all/images/MWM_Logo_simple_trans.png
Could do white text on black as well as black text on white.
Speaking of which ... isn't there an item like this in the MWM merch store already (and if there isn't, why not!?) ...?
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Sorry, confused here. Are you saying i should make the MWM logo? I technically cant make the CoT designs without permission from them, which i think i do have but i wouldn't want to sell those in my store either way. I have talked a small amount with them about setting up a section in the CoT store to sell some patches but haven't done much with that yet. They have been so busy lately, i don't want to push.
If they're willing i would like to do the villain group icons, the KS patch i'm working on (probably have different words though.) Archetypes would be a given of course. There is actually quite a few things for the game that would make very neat looking patches. Whether they would sell or not however, i have no idea.
So I'll be watching for these if I'm still up at 2300 to 0200 Pacific time. Or when I wake up the next day. ^_^
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I keep em going for a full 24 hours give or take. So no rush to be first in line.
As for CoT designs, i do have these but they need some work i think. Plus i'm missing two archetypes.
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I made these back when i was first getting started so a lot of things i know now, i didn't know then. I probably need to redo the whole lot.
I may be late... But yeah... Just woke up now :x
I love them and as long as I'm not too late I'm going to participate :)
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No problem. This is just to gauge interest before i start it. It probably wont start for a bit yet. Couple days anyway.
Can you create it directly on a T-shirt or sweat shirt or is it only a one-piece shape ? I must admit that even if i wanted one, i don't know how i can put it on a sweat-shirt or a bag :D But, if i can order a embrodered sweat-shirt, it could be neat :)
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You definitely can embroidery on clothes but i don't normally do that because it can be a pain with my machines. The last time i tried i ended up with being slightly off center and not straight. The fabric can move kinda weird as it stitches so even if it were to be perfectly placed before it started it could still end up off by the time it was done.
That said, one thing i can do set them up for iron on. I use a pretty heavy duty iron on glue. Seems to hold up well, although i have never tried to wash and or dry it before. I imagine it would need to be dried with no heat to keep the glue from softening back up and having the patch fall off.
Thanks for the answer :)
I'll look after how to stick this kind of stuff correctly ^^ it's cotton based ? I mean, the under face of the patch
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Yep, pretty sure the fabric i use is cotton. However, for the most part you wont see the fabric. You would see my embroidery thread (colors) and bobbin thread (white) on the underside. Unless i did iron on, in which case that stuff is covered in a thin layer of glue. And both of those thread types are polyester.
As a side note, i have been using a cotton bobbin thread lately and the stuff is terrible. Have to clean out the machine constantly because it leaves lint all over the inside.
Well the good thing is... My mom and I can stitch... So I'd stitch it on something :)
Though my mom could do it better...
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Good to hear, being able to sew is a dying art i think. Kinda like blacksmithing it's just kinda vanishing save for a small handful of people. Of course, embroidery never really got popular with the masses. No where near what 3D printing got. Even now when i tell people i do embroidery they assume i'm an old lady lol.
Ah, well... Art is broad and sewing, embroidery, etc is art. I wouldn't even think about how old a person was, just because of their hobby or profession. I'd just appreciate what they're doing. :)
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With permission (of course) ... but yes.
Ideally speaking, such patches would be sold through the MWM Store, rather than your own, so as to keep Where To Find Stuff conveniently located for people looking for CoT merch.
Note to lokiie1984 ... ask (again?) after the CharGen gets released ...
Of course, having a test sample (or few) already made up to help with the decision making might be a good idea ... ^_~
All good avenues for lines of inquiry, particularly if you can get in on "the ground floor" for this kind of thing.
Heck, if you can do "one off" custom patches from a screenshot (from, say, the CharGen system itself?) you'd even have the ability to make patches from an image of individual characters(!) which could then be sold through the MWM Store. Think about how many people would love to have 3D printed model figures of their characters (expensive) ... and then think about how many people would love to have an embroidered patch (affordable!) featuring THEIR character from City of Titans.
Can you say "mint" ...?
This is where being able to export/import character data from the CharGen would come in REALLY handy, such that all a buyer would need to send you is the data file for their character's parameters and a request for which emote pose to capture for the screenshot (or even a screenshot directly) so as to let you set up the embroidery machine with the necessary programming and "let 'er stitch" until done. Sell them for $10 a pop and have LOTS of happy customers ... and that's not even including the people who would want to buy more than one patch per character.
Can you say "make a mint" ...?
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Unfortunately that wouldn't work. Embroidery cant have any shading so the human face never looks right. If it was converted from a 3d image into a line art there would be a chance but even then, the level of detail in the character creator would mean the line art would have to be simplified by quite a bit. Plus in order to do that i would probably charge a boat load just to make the design due to all the work involved. Then there would be the patch on top of that.
Embroidery really works best for logos, symbols, emblems, things like that. Other people with better machines and a better program could maybe do more but i haven't found a good way to make it work. It's actually one of the issues i run into pretty often with custom work. Embroidery doesnt work like printing does, when you see a color block, it's all one continuous thread. So where a computer screen is a billion tiny pixels, embroidery is a ton of stitches inter connected to each other.
There times where i have seen a picture redone as embroidery.
This for example, [img]https://www.yatzer.com/sites/default/files/article_images/2796/photo-realistic-embroidered-portraits-by-Cayce-Zavaglia-yatzer-10.jpg[/img]
But without a program and or machine with multiple needles (mine has one needle) and the ability to auto cut jump threads, it would look more like this [img]https://cdn.trendhunterstatic.com/thumbs/embroidery-portrait.jpeg[/img]
I mean i could do it, would never want to but i could. It would just be a huge mess lol.
As for the smaller emblems and what not for the store i could set some of those up after issue 0 and see what they think. Would need to figure out the logistics of it, such as how i would get all the correct buyers info, and get my cut of the money. I would need to have costs covered and make a bit of profit. For the KS badges, i had gotten a list of names and i ship them to my Handler (It's more fun to say handler vs "Guy who gave me a name list") in batches of 10 to 20. After he gets those he is shipping them out to the people i have finished. But that wouldn't really be practical for the store. I would need to take out the middle man there.
Here are a few more i'm working on, more related to the game. MWM logos, a Titan City patch showing off the light house and the cityscape, the Black Rose villain group icon, and the The Regency villain group.
There are quite a few others i could do, exploration badges, maybe power icons, CoTs version of inspirations if it has any. And of course, other hero / villain groups.
As for the giveaway. I think the best choice for now will be to play it day by day. I had wanted to do 12 days but i just dont know if the forums are active enough to allow for 60 winners (5 per day.) So i think i will it one day, and if we have enough participants to warrant a second, we will do a second and so on. And if after Issue 0 hits, more people are about on the forums we can maybe finish off the rest of the 12 days in game or something. Maybe with a costume contest each day, might be more entertaining then posting on a forum.
So for now i think the 15th will be a good day to give this a go. Probably make the official starting post friday night after midnight.
If you're going with the "twelve days", that's a good excuse to delay starting until the 25[sup]th[/sup], if you wanted to.
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Okay, these DEFINITELY need to be put in the MWM Store for purchase!
Sell like hotcakes!
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Originally i had planned to do this before Issue0 launched because i figured after that people would be busy in character creator and not really come to the forums. So i had assumed there would be more active forum goers before then after. But i suppose after five years people don't really come around much. They probably adopt a "check it once a month" type habit. So maybe costume contests would be a better choice.
I'm still in a bit of a Facebook mentality, where people can see the event in their news feed each day. So yea in game events might be the better way to go. Or as you said, closer to the end of the month when people might be checking the forums more often.
Right now i'm making these as something to do while i fill other orders, but once the webmaster guys are freed up i will see what we can do to get those in there. Cant hurt to put em up, i mean the worst that will happen is they wont sell.
Too cool.
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I want some of your creations !!!
Small update to the info: Those that don't live in the US are free to play as well. International stamps are pretty cheap and it works well for single patch shipping to other countries. It's not tracked of course but since they can skip customs, a lot of times they get there before tracked shipments anyway. Plus, no import taxes.
Oh good! I was worried I'd have to have them redirected from the States to Canada
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Yeah I asked already on Discord, as I'm really interested in those :)
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Couple more CoT designs. It sounds like these will be available in the merchandise store eventually. I need to get em all sewn and tested first though.
I used links from the fan discord so let me know if they cant be seen.
Is it just me or does the lettering at the top of the PIT one seem off?
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Looks like they are a little bit better in size then the other side. Will have to fix that. My program doesnt have font point size like word or other programs. You just kinda have to eye ball it.
Best news I've read all day. *^_^*
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Yay got em tested. Most came out pretty good, some need tweeks and some (looking you white MWM) had issues with the hoops so they have gaps. I really need to get a different hoop. This thing sucks, doesn't hold the fabric tight. Anyway, here are pictures.
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And now the ones that failed. Or at least need tweaking.
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And i apparently spelled Phoenix wrong. But "oe" just looks so weird. Stupid English. Or maybe it's the Greeks fault lol.
Right. I'll take one of each please; that will include all the future ones that I just know you are planning to do.
Seriously though, get them in the store and my son and I will be purchasing just a "few" of those patches.
I like'em!
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The period on the end of the sentence was getting added to the url, causing a 404 error.
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Sounds like a very generous idea... Am I too late to the party?
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Nope. I may have to wait until after Issue 0 hits though as from what i have been able to see, there's really only 5 to active people on the forums. So i was thinking about maybe doing a post today as a test day (still give out the patches of course) to see how many i can expect.
I would prefer there to be at least 30 to 40 people.
Thanks for that. My forum-fu is weak.
First day of the giveaway is up and running. https://cityoftitans.com/forum/patch-giveaway-day-one-continue-story
I'm on here almost every day, but I very rarely post; I'm betting there are lots of other lurkers here as well. Your patches look FANTASTIC, btw.
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