Hey guys, I could use some help in figuring out if this computer is worth the cost it's being sold for. I'm posting a link to the seller page and I would really appreciate if some of you that are well-versed in this kind of terminology and specification lingo could let me know if it's a good deal as I'm looking to replace my current PC. Thanks in advance for any help you can pass my way. Here is the link:
http://m.kijiji.ca/desktop-computers/oshawa-durham-region/intel-i7-gaming-computer/v?adId=1106121238&ck=ckPOA&from=Search&ts=1444186167446
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If I were purchasing it in a store, I'd consider it a good deal. But for a used computer, advertised on a site I'm not familiar with? If I couldn't find recommendations for the Kijiji site, or had experience with it... But it seems to be an eBay subsidiary, for whatever you may think that is worth.
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its seems ok.
try looking on a few sites 1st.
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1st try, i see newEgg.com has an entry level gaming PC for about: $539. [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883230029]Link[/url]
Maybe consider: Console like Slim desktop PC. $599. [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883221109]Link[/url]
Build it Yourself: [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MphKrH]Link to parts list[/url]
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But, like many future players, you can try to base your gaming build around either of these two cards.
[url=http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-960-vs-AMD-R9-380/3165vs3482]$200 Nvidia and AMD Graphics cards comparison[/url]
Was a long time since I actually built a system of my own, but if you want to see how it compares, especially price-wise, then just try and build it at other online shops.
Considering the lack of details (exact make and model of each component) I can't really say, but it looks like he tries to get a little premium for the "aesthetic value" in it.
I don't usually trust stuff like that, but who knows, it could be a good deal. I would see if you can get in contact with the seller and ask him to give you some more info on, why he is selling it, how long has he had it, stuff like that.
I would google all the parts separately and see what it adds up to so to see if it makes any sense why he is selling at that price and whatnot. I know that graphics card alone is like $380. I personally would recommend Nvidia graphics cards over Radeon though IMO. You can go to sites like Newegg, Microcenter, Tigerdirect(the site I used), and hand select every component and it gives you comparisons to other parts just like it. This way you can build it to what you want to do with it, and it is a lot cheaper then buying the box as a whole.
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Personally, its better to spend a a $100+ more and have a baby beast. ;D
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butttt.... if you're on a tight Budget, like me, you might get the best bang out of this setup:
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Yea I'd have some questions about age of the components and I'm wondering if there are any issues that he would just reset for all the time. Now considering that the video card goes for 259 on Newegg right now and the lowest Core I7 is going for 400 It seems like he added up some of the components and reduced to 50% of the cost he paid originally. IT could be a great deal if you're comfortable working inside the PC cause there maybe problems that come up from it. Just remember that buying a PC second hand there are no warranties that you can fall back on.
For a "gamer" he doesn't sound all that proud of his PC if he's got put up there in one line.
Zerohour - if you are Canadian (guessing because of Kijiji) - be sure to check out www.ncix.com - they're a Canadian computer company - you can buy pre-built rigs or build your own. I've gotten my last two PCs from them (plus the occasional part for upgrades) as well as a computer for my parents and have had no bad experiences with them.
I'd say that's sketchy. If you want to buy, look at more reliable sites (XoticPC, iBuyPower, etc.)
I'm with Izzy, take some time and build yourself if you have a budget. Actually easy to do, lots of guides on how to do it (hardest part nay more is deciding on the components). Once you build one, there's a little bit of pride once it's all up an running. I have built all of mine since my first used to play CoH in 2004. My latest builds were two liquid cooled (custom dual loop) mini-ITX - quiet and compact. If you go this route and need help or advice, just let us know!
Best of luck!
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Hey thanks guys for the responses the last time I checked there weren't any here so it was a nice surprise. Yes I am Canadian I live in Ontario and most of the stores around here want to sell a decent gaming computer for what I feel is completely overpriced I'm talking like $12-$1600 depending on the store. I've never built my own computer and hadn't really considered that as an option because I'm afraid there's too much to screw up along the way. But if I can save a lot of money and it's not as hard as I think then maybe I will look into it.
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Building it can be a fun project and has the advantages of knowing exactly what is in it* and you can buy the parts piecemeal.
I bought stuff like the case, power supply, drives, monitor and mouse over several months (stuff that doesn't really change much over the span of months...if not years) and saved up to get the video card, memory, processor and motherboard at the last minute.
While it is certainly possible to screw something up, it's not very likely if you do your homework. Nowadays you can find how-to youtube videos for just about every specific piece of hardware you want to use.
*This is especially nice as you (probably) won't feel the need to upgrade anything the day after you first boot up your new computer :)
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Building it yourself also means you don't have to deal with some bargain-basement network card or whatever, which has lousy drivers, that the manufacturer put in to keep costs down... unless you really want to.
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i am coming from absolutely zero knowledge of building a computer. I hear they are pretty plug and play these days, but does anyone know of a good resource that I can utilize so that I make sure I know to buy compatible parts? I mean I wouldn't even know what kind of motherboard to get, let alone an appropriate power supply or cooling system
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If I recall, https://pcpartpicker.com/ checks almost every component for compatibility.
So most likely, you wont get the wrong memory stick for a motherboard, etc... and the like.
It's been a while, but I think PCPartPicker also has a tool where you can tell it all the parts you want to use and it will tell you the minimum wattage you'd need from your power supply.
New Egg has lots of reviews, both professional and customer. You sometimes have to take customer reviews with a grain of salt, but they can be helpful. Amazon also has lots of customer reviews.
CNet also has pretty good professional reviews.
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Izzy - those pics you posted above, where its got percentages of how powerful it is. where is that from?
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Also Tiger direct is a good site, tells you what parts are compatible and such. The only big decision is do you want to go Intel or AMD. I prefer AMD because you get just as good product for more than half the price usually.
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I was going to ask at some point why such a price difference between Intel and AMD
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Back in the day AMD had a bad rap, and it's lived on ever since which you can tell from the price difference. But the quality on AMD has come a long way and I've used AMD on every build and never had an issue. A 500 dollar CPU MOBO combo from intel will be 200 for a similar spec AMD build. Intel products are great, don't get me wrong, but if you are on a budget then AMD is the way to go
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http://www.userbenchmark.com/
ive been reading that the i5 cpu is better for gaming than the i7. is this true? and which iteration of the i5 should i go for, 6600k?
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https://pcpartpicker.com/forums/forum/27-create-a-part-list-for-me/
There's a Whole Lot of competitive PC build enthusiasts that troll that forum.
All they ask for is you give them some prelim specs:
- is it mainly a gaming PC, which Games, how much is for Video Editing Image Editing, any Business related Office Applications you would be using. etc... Price range, etc...
In my opinion, Intel i7 might be overkill, BUT... interesting thing is, more and more games are getting smarter about separating its processing to make use of more CPU Cores.
In my opinion, Intel i5 is a very good middle ground, and many games will keep focusing on the GPU side, and not so much the CPU, even with so much Physics CPU processing being introduced into games in the future. :)
Unfortunately I only can speak for AMD. But i5 is adequate for almost all tasks, and it is cheaper. So that is most likely why most people prefer it. As Izzy said most people say i7 is overkill, but that doesn't mean it's bad. So if you have a budget, you want to get a good processor, and spend more of your money on the graphics card. That is going to be your work horse on games. And if you want to do stuff like VR, then you wont even be able to do it really without at least a Gtx 960? IIRC
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if you are on a budget, then the i5 is more than suitable for general gaming. The same with the graphics card.
In terms of VR (ie the Oculus Rift) they have stated that the *minimum* spec is the GTX970 and an i5-4590 processor. The 960GTX is ideal for 1080p resolution gaming, and the Rift has a resolution of 2160x1200. And for ideal framerates (to prevent nausea) you need 90 frames per second. So I can see why they would go for the 970 over the 960.
I personally have an i7 processor and an AMD GPU (R9 290X), but originally I had an AMD 8350 processor. In terms of game performance between the two though? Yeah, the intel chip gave me better results when it came to gaming, particularly when I stream online (the AMD processor could do it, but I would have to drop details in game, whilst the i7 coped really well with both).
This is what I had to do for the games that I played, along with the desktop setup that I have etc etc. Your own useage might be a bit different.
I'm going to check that out tonight Izzy thanks again
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