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Fall 2017 Alpha

Is this confirmed and definite? If so, how does one get involved?

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You contribute to the Kick

You contribute to the Kick Starter

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So no option for late comers?

So no option for late comers? I would love to donate, especially if it means early access. Heck, even if it doesn't, take my money.

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I would also love something

I would also love something to get early access. I cant believe I missed the Kickstarter. I beat myself up every day about it.

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I sure hope that the 2nd

I sure hope that the 2nd crowdfunding event comes soon. Tabby City *needs* a state-of-the-art veterinary hospital!

You know that you were ALL thinking that! Am I right?!

Make it so!

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AFAIK, right now the comic

AFAIK, right now the comic Patreon is the only active method to help fund things.

(insert pithy comment here)

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So, if you really want to

So, if you really want to help, there it is: https://www.patreon.com/HiJinx/posts

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Dark Ether wrote:
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AFAIK, right now the comic Patreon is the only active method to help fund things.

And the physical goods store.

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Doctor Tyche wrote:
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Dark Ether wrote:
AFAIK, right now the comic Patreon is the only active method to help fund things.
And the physical goods store.

It feels like the OP was asking for a confirmation on a Fall 2017 Alpha and how they can get involved (aka participate).
iirc, only the KS people are involved in the Alpha.
Funding is a separate topic (but still good to get re-affirmed).

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Planet10 wrote:
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Doctor Tyche wrote:
Dark Ether wrote:
AFAIK, right now the comic Patreon is the only active method to help fund things.
And the physical goods store.
It feels like the OP was asking for a confirmation on a Fall 2017 Alpha and how they can get involved (aka participate).
iirc, only the KS people are involved in the Alpha.
Funding is a separate topic (but still good to get re-affirmed).

Yes, this was my main question. Definitely happening for fall of this year, and if so, any options for late comers to get involved?

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In all honesty Alphas tend to

In all honesty Alphas tend to generally not be very exciting so I'd not worry too much about missing it. Beta is where there fun begins as content and systems tend to be fleshed out then. :)

I'd like to know if that date is solid, though.

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There is a plan for a second

There is a plan for a second round of funding IIRC though no details have been released beyond that "there is a plan." I think DT posted that comment about "later this fall" so it's probably pretty solid.

From past experiences with alpha testing and closed beta testing, sometimes the test is just getting yourself logged in. I was in the early CBT for Age of Conan. It took me 6 hours to download the 30Gig installer and another six to install and get logged in. When I did, I had no head or limbs and had fallen through the map. I was kicked from the server (chat announcements were not working), an update was pushed out, and when I logged in again, I had my extremities but couldn't exit the boat I started in. Point is early testing can be a real PITA.

In the business world I then had to do more or less the same thing with a large robot. Which someone had loaded with bad firmware. Once I had a good firmware loaded I had to teach the robot it had a head and eye's and 2 arms and to try not to dump 3000 lbs of it's acid filled guts on the floor. While the customer watched. A customer who had shelled out 8 figures. Point is early testing can be a real PITA.

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Grimfox wrote:
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There is a plan for a second round of funding IIRC though no details have been released beyond that "there is a plan." I think DT posted that comment about "later this fall" so it's probably pretty solid.
From past experiences with alpha testing and closed beta testing, sometimes the test is just getting yourself logged in. I was in the early CBT for Age of Conan. It took me 6 hours to download the 30Gig installer and another six to install and get logged in. When I did, I had no head or limbs and had fallen through the map. I was kicked from the server (chat announcements were not working), an update was pushed out, and when I logged in again, I had my extremities but couldn't exit the boat I started in. Point is early testing can be a real PITA.
In the business world I then had to do more or less the same thing with a large robot. Which someone had loaded with bad firmware. Once I had a good firmware loaded I had to teach the robot it had a head and eye's and 2 arms and to try not to dump 3000 lbs of it's acid filled guts on the floor. While the customer watched. A customer who had shelled out 8 figures. Point is early testing can be a real PITA.

As someone currently involved in VO's alpha, I am well aware of how annoying/boring it can be. It is exciting though, and I would be happy to endure a plethora of bugs and patches to see these games grow and develop before my eyes.

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So no option for late comers? I would love to donate, especially if it means early access. Heck, even if it doesn't, take my money.

You can become a supporter on their Paetron for the web-comic series.

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So no option for late comers? I would love to donate, especially if it means early access. Heck, even if it doesn't, take my money.
You can become a supporter on their Paetron for the web-comic series.

Supporting via the Patreon does not grant access to the Alpha/Beta. That is this person's only interest.

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So no option for late comers? I would love to donate, especially if it means early access. Heck, even if it doesn't, take my money.
You can become a supporter on their Paetron for the web-comic series.
Supporting via the Patreon does not grant access to the Alpha/Beta. That is this person's only interest.

I am interested in supporting the project either way. I would like to get into the beta at least if possible, but I will still donate even if that is not possible.

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I figure I've been mum on

I figure I've been mum on this subject for long enough. *IF* we can continue the current rate of progress, we should have our target closed alpha build ready around mid-November. In two weeks is the next progress assessment, so we will know better if we will hit that period or no.

Before we hit Alpha, we need to run our Second Chance, which would enable access to the backer test builds. Which means, we will know in 2 weeks when to hold this. There are only limited windows in which to hold this.

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Second Chance?! If that is a

Second Chance?! If that is a 2nd crowdfunding effort, please count me in!

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Woo hoo!

Woo hoo!

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You can tell DrT is being

You can tell DrT is being honest cause if he had a PR team he'd have told us 3 weeks. Cause a decent PR team would save major announcements for special events and conventions. Cause that fills seats and builds hype.

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YUSSSSSSSS.

YUSSSSSSSS.

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This is great news ! Looking

This is great news ! Looking forward to contributing.

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City of Tabbies needs a state

City of Tabbies needs a state-of-the-art veterinary hospital! Please point me in the direction of the new crowdfunding!

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Doctor Tyche wrote:
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I figure I've been mum on this subject for long enough. *IF* we can continue the current rate of progress, we should have our target closed alpha build ready around mid-November. In two weeks is the next progress assessment, so we will know better if we will hit that period or no.
Before we hit Alpha, we need to run our Second Chance, which would enable access to the backer test builds. Which means, we will know in 2 weeks when to hold this. There are only limited windows in which to hold this.

thanks for the heads up, Dr T. Getting ready now. How long will the new funding opportunity last? over 2-3 paycheks I hope? I'm looking to make several donations to edge up to a good high number.

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Imagine it started now and

Imagine it started now and save each week. Kickstarters typically run 30 days, I think, so that's 4 weeks of saving, plus you have *at least* two weeks notice. So that brings us to 6 weeks of savings.

It is very tempting to put entirely too much money into this.

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*flies around the Earth in

*flies around the Earth in opposition to its rotation*

*goes back in time to before Earth-P was destroyed*

*collects more Shiny Brass Nemmie Buttons*

*has more SBNBs to add to the Veterinary Hospital Building Fund*

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*flies around the Earth in opposition to its rotation*
*goes back in time to before Earth-P was destroyed*
*collects more Shiny Brass Nemmie Buttons*
*has more SBNBs to add to the Veterinary Hospital Building Fund*

You should add a statue to Amerikatt out front. failing that, add Amerikatt gargoyles on the roof. The Katt need a brooding place to watch over the city.

PS, add a fishstick factory in the back, and leave an ominous clue of what they are really made of...
or a fish and chips fast food place using fishmen as mascots, "Hey we're delicious!"

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Cyclops wrote:
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Amerikatt wrote:
*flies around the Earth in opposition to its rotation*
*goes back in time to before Earth-P was destroyed*
*collects more Shiny Brass Nemmie Buttons*
*has more SBNBs to add to the Veterinary Hospital Building Fund*
You should add a statue to Amerikatt out front. failing that, add Amerikatt gargoyles on the roof. The Katt need a brooding place to watch over the city.
PS, add a fishstick factory in the back, and leave an ominous clue of what they are really made of...
or a fish and chips fast food place using fishmen as mascots, "Hey we're delicious!"

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Grimfox wrote:
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You can tell DrT is being honest cause if he had a PR team he'd have told us 3 weeks. Cause a decent PR team would save major announcements for special events and conventions. Cause that fills seats and builds hype.

Two weeks is when we will know. When you will know will be after that, to be determined by our PR team.

All I can say is that as part of the web team, this is something I... have a direct interest in.

P.S. Sorry I've been scarce lately.

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It is very tempting to put entirely too much money into this.

Fortunately, I've already done that, so now I must face the temptation to put entirely too much more money into this.^_^

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Grimfox wrote:
It is very tempting to put entirely too much money into this.
Fortunately, I've already done that, so now I must face the temptation to put entirely too much more money into this.^_^

I'm in the same boat! Hopefully there aren't crazy tempting add-ons, perks, or such cause I may give in...

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I'm in the same boat! Hopefully there aren't crazy tempting add-ons, perks, or such cause I may give in...

I hope there are LOTS of tempting add-ons -- all reasonably in *my* price range!

*dives head-first into a Scrooge McDuck-sized mountain of Shiny Brass Nemmie Buttons!*

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I am more than ready to put

I am more than ready to put money into this since I didn't get to do it in the first place lol

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I am more than ready to put money into this since I didn't get to do it in the first place lol

My sentiments, exactly!

I wasn't able to afford even the $5 pledge back then. Now, I *finally* have 2 Shiny Brass Nemmie Buttons to rub together!

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I missed the kickstarter and

I missed the kickstarter and have been kicking myself since I found out about it.

Very interested in hearing more about a second one.

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I pledged the KS, but since

I pledged the KS, but since then have kicked myself for not going in at a higher tier, so I'm hopeful that I can add on or something of the sort.

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*ponders the feasibility of

*ponders the feasibility of having a penthouse atop a veterinary hospital*

*noms on crab cakes and lobsters and behemoth shrimp cocktails*

*washes them down with a case of vintage mewlot*

*raises her glass to the empty chair in which she imagines Mr. Boots*

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When did Amerikatt turn into

When did Amerikatt turn into AmericanFatKatt?

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Kitten Dreams' eyes get


Kitten Dreams' eyes get bigger and bigger, observing AK's 'little snack'.
She looks at her small box of Girl Scout cookies and quickly hides the Thin Mints, before cautiously backing away.

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When did Amerikatt turn into AmericanFatKatt?

FUN FACT: AK requires about 20,000 calories per day in order to maintain her power levels. She converts all of those calories into energy. That's why she can nom an entire industrial vat-sized portion of Catsi's Nuclear Chili and never gain a gram of weight!!! This Fun Fact is brought to you by the letter Q.

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Kitten Dreams' eyes get bigger and bigger, observing AK's 'little snack'.
She looks at her small box of Girl Scout cookies and quickly hides the Thin Mints, before cautiously backing away.

AK is about to invite Kitten Dreams to join her for lunch, but sees her reaction to the preponderance of noms. AK pantomimes a welcome to the table, but, seeing that Kitten Dreams is making a hasty retreat, figures that she must be on her way to an emergency meeting of the Legion of Catgirls.

At that moment, her personal chef wheels in a couple carts with Crab-Stuffed Flounders. AK watches as her friend departs, then eats her portion of flounder.

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Was referring to a different

Was referring to a different type of Fatkatt. I already knew about the 20kkcals per day.

Tangent, It would be interesting to find out just how much power PB could produce in a day given her power source. Big lump of radioactive material.

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We need to immortalize

We need to immortalize AmeriKatt as a trainer for all heroes with shoulder pets. That would be the ultimate KS reward.
You can find AK atop the palatial Animal Hospital and fish stick bar. The penthouse doesn't have a pool, but an Olympic size litter box.

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We need to immortalize AmeriKatt as a trainer for all heroes with shoulder pets. That would be the ultimate KS reward.
You can find AK atop the palatial Animal Hospital and fish stick bar. The penthouse doesn't have a pool, but an Olympic size litter box.

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I 2nd, 3rd, AND 4th the idea of AK as a trainer and/or shoulder-pet vendor!

Not having AK as a permanent part of City of Tippy-Toes would be ... NUTS!

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Interesting discussion. will

Interesting discussion. will be watching.

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Oh F...k yes I love you i want kiss you

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Did we ever hear how the test

Did we ever hear how the test went? Obviously the second chance isn't up and running yet but it's still interesting to know we're that much closer.

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From what I have read, an

From what I have read, an alpha is more for professionals than players. I've been in several betas (including COH), and I enjoyed working with the devs. The beta test forums were always fun. it is just as important to report exploits as it is bugs.

i don't know if the KS2 will get us an invite to alpha or not, but I really don't care. The game will be MY reward. That is what I will be investing in.

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Cyclops wrote:
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From what I have read, an alpha is more for professionals than players. I've been in several betas (including COH), and I enjoyed working with the devs. The beta test forums were always fun. it is just as important to report exploits as it is bugs.

i don't know if the KS2 will get us an invite to alpha or not, but I really don't care. The game will be MY reward. That is what I will be investing in.

In software testing the terms "Alpha" and "Beta" can mean many different things to different people.

In the most general terms when software is "in alpha" it's usually only being tested/run by a small handful of very highly trusted 3rd party people and/or only internally within a given software company. Detailed results of such testing are rarely released to the public and software at this stage is often so raw it can be subjected to multiple rebuilds in very short periods of time. Basically alpha-level products are typically unstable, unoptimized and considered "not ready for prime-time".

On the other hand software that's "in beta" is usually complete enough that it can be released (for testing) to a much larger less technically-savvy audience. Still at this stage there can be all different levels of "closed" or "open" betas which can represent just how widely available (and/or how widely reportable) the state of the software has become. Beta level software tends to be much more stable and overall "usable" as eventually intended. By the time fully open betas start a computer game is usually like 90-95% as "finished" as it's ever going to be.

Obviously it'll be up to MWM to decide when various people will have access to this particular game. If they allow any of us (non-MWM people) to participate in anything I'd call an alpha test it would likely just involve 5 or 10 key people who would be under very strict NDAs (probably to the point where they couldn't even openly admit they were alpha testers until afterwards) and would be expected to provide serious feedback/bug reports after many hours of serious testing. Any alpha testers for this game, considering the grassroots nature of the how the game is being developed, would likely become as close to "honorary Devs" as humanly possible.

Once this game enters the beta stages they'll likely start letting the KS/second chance people start to test/play it. Beta testers will hopefully provide good feedback for the Devs but it'll be at a much less intense level as the alpha testers. Eventually it'll get to the point where anybody will be able to download it and beta test it - that'll likely come a month or two before launch.

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Yeah, nowadays they mean

Yeah, nowadays they mean whatever the relevant Marketing department wants them to mean.

Decades ago, "alpha" was testing after integration and before feature freeze, and "beta" was after feature freeze and before release. Except when they weren't.

I'm saving my SAN points and not worrying about it.

Has anyone seen my mind? It was right here...

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Lin Chiao Feng wrote:
Lin Chiao Feng wrote:

Yeah, nowadays they mean whatever the relevant Marketing department wants them to mean.
Decades ago, "alpha" was testing after integration and before feature freeze, and "beta" was after feature freeze and before release. Except when they weren't.
I'm saving my SAN points and not worrying about it.

Frankly I'm not too worried what MWM ends up calling its various testing phases either. I just want to be able to do as much useful testing as I'm able to do whenever you Dev-type folks let me do that. ;)

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I am not worried about what

I am not worried about what it is called. I am just waiting for concrete visuals like a character builder that works. After looking at VO's character builder I can see that it isnt as easy as it looks.

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Lothic wrote:
Lothic wrote:

Frankly I'm not too worried what MWM ends up calling its various testing phases either. I just want to be able to do as much useful testing as I'm able to do whenever you Dev-type folks let me do that. ;)

Yeah! They should skip the greek letters and name their software phases Chico, Harpo, Groucho, Gummo, and Zeppo!

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Fireheart wrote:
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Lothic wrote:

Frankly I'm not too worried what MWM ends up calling its various testing phases either. I just want to be able to do as much useful testing as I'm able to do whenever you Dev-type folks let me do that. ;)

Yeah! They should skip the greek letters and name their software phases Chico, Harpo, Groucho, Gummo, and Zeppo!

At least this naming scheme satisfies the basic CDO requirement to be in chronological order by birthdates. ;)

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ivanhedgehog wrote:
ivanhedgehog wrote:

I am not worried about what it is called. I am just waiting for concrete visuals like a character builder that works. After looking at VO's character builder I can see that it isnt as easy as it looks.

You can say that again.

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