The Paragons and a couple of unaffiliated heroes? Hope their PUG did well! ;^p

Dude sure seems bold for a Wiki editor :p More like a hard-hitting reporter.

True fact: Viper is older than Cobra.

Correct me please if I'm mistaken, but was the last real tech update "pieces of a game" back in the beginning of June?

warcabbit wrote:

True fact: Viper is older than Cobra.

Only by about a year, and it's less well known, except amongst us hard-core Champions pen&paper gamers. ^_^

All 4 Mutants wrote:

I do not mean to dump on the lore and I did like it, however I got a feeling of Cobra when I read it.
All 4 Mutants

When I read the update my first thought was of the Council. I'm certain that was the intent.

After all, there are only so many things one can do with a (para-)military organization bent on world domination. The absence of such a faction would be much more egregious than its presence.

Come to think of it, I believe they're the second such group. We've also had a little info about that "Iron Sky" group, which I'm too lazy to dig up.

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Edit: I went and [url=http://cityoftitans.com/content/vril-urban-legend-or-world-domination]found them[/url], because I'm awesome.

I understand CoT and Heroes and Villains started out as a single project before they diverged creatively and split, so does this group concept predate the split? http://www.heroes-and-villains.com/phpb/home.php?page=characters&sub=vg

With both CoT and H&V having your Cobra/Spectre-type organization called the same thing and with the same means and methods, both in a city called Titan... have you considered changing the name to something else? I've got to admit, I find Scorpion a little hokey for the name of the organization overall.

When you put it like that, it's totally brutals. Hail Scorpion.

warcabbit wrote:

We intend for it to be possible to have missions that play like that. They probably won't be dominant, and ... shoot, can't talk about the various other qualifiers.
Let's just say that for people who don't specifically want to play stalkers, it won't come up more than once or twice over their career. For people who want to play cat burglars or stalkers or whatever you want to call it, it'll come up more often.

That makes me very happy. I really enjoy playing stalkers, but have always found that playing a stealth character in an MMO was a lot like trying on the wrong size shoe. The missions, group content, and the open world were all designed around more 'direct' forms of accomplishment. As someone who really likes to play the stalker to its strengths, I like that you intend to give me a chance to play missions for that character rather than just trying to fit a stalker into a mission made for every other kind of character.

And when I play a scrapper or a dominator, I need the satisfaction of overpowering my opponents like a reaper through a field of wheat. I like to feel like an unassailable bastion upon which my enemies allide when I play a tank; and so forth.

Whether it be sneaky, dominating, violent, or indomitable; if you help make me feel like a bad-ass, I will play your game.

warcabbit wrote:

Zerohour wrote:
Correct me please if I'm mistaken, but was the last real tech update "pieces of a game" back in the beginning of June?
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/missingworldsmedia/the-phoenix-project-city-of-titans/posts/1621155
July 4th. AI, terrain, building construction, FX, progress - the fireworks are no longer square.
Seriously, the AI is huge.
Water action, NPC emotes working dynamically based off behavior choices, we didn't get buoyancy working in time.
And previews of buildinggen.
And our first large scale outside zone.
I'd call that a tech update.

how in the hell did i miss that?? thanks!

warcabbit wrote:

Gluke brings up a good point I've been toying with. Hail Scorpion is too Hydra.
They need something, clearly. I was thinking Serve Scorpion!
Anyone got a better one?

How about "Ego victorem, ego Scorpius" (male delivery, the female version would be "ego victrix, ego Scorpius"). Meaning: I am (a/the) conqueror/winner/vanquisher, I am Scorpion.

The first part would signify that Scorpion is victorious against adversity/authority, that it regards itself at war with the rest of the world, while the second part would signify that each individual member who recites that *is* the organisation, ie they are part of it, it is their identity, each of them IS Scorpion in even a submissive, indoctrinicated/brainwashed sense.
It depends on how you want Scorpion's goal and philosophy to come across, of course, as well as their origins. It may not suit them to use Latin, which I figured is pretty universal for conveying gravity and signifying authority, but looks backwards, historically, wishing to conquer the world like Alexander, former Empires etc... If they are a futurist, forward looking kind of organization, less traditional and more sci-fi, then maybe English (or another language) would be more appropriate.

Also depends whether they see themselves *at war* with the rest of the world/superpowers, or *already in control* of the world, or something else. Maybe 'victoriem' with the military/war association might be replaced by a word for Power, Strength, Might, Will, Truth, etc (I looked up a few alternatives and victorem sounded best to me). But just what I thought of the top of my head.

Thanks, Zero, both for calling us out, and for accepting the one we showed. Generally, we try to do two updates a month - bi-weekly actually - and one's lore, and one's not. Generally, for the last ... heck, three-four months, every non-lore update has been a tech/art/game mishmash where we show off a _lot_ of things. Including at least one, and sometimes two videos.
The most recent one we paused to show off the prosthetic, which I'm really proud of - and if you check the thread on it, you'll note that it's about to go in harm's way and maybe help some people directly shortly.

I'm hoping to have a few parts finished in time for the next video so we can show off something everyone really wants to see but we're having trouble with... well, the difference between 'it almost works' and 'it works' is annoyingly fidgety.

People will forgive the name Scorpion, if MWM makes them look good... and a decent Scorpion tattoo wouldn't hurt if its on back of one of their hands, or side of the Face, Neck, etc...

This gets pretty cool.

The Egyptian Goddess Serket (or Selket) was represented as a scorpion. You can look her up to get more details. But here is the cool part: Two early pharoahs were so associated with her as their goddess (maybe) that they were known as the scorpion kings. How cool is that? Scorpion 1 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorpion_I) and scorpion 2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorpion_II), are the names given to them by very unimaginative egyptologists, may they lie in shame for eternity for their lack of originality. But now imagine that Pharoah Scorpion a.k.a. King Scorpion is back as an immortal or a mummy! And even if he's not back, an egyptian themed enemy would be really sweet, that is if Stargate hasn't overplayed it for an entire generation of nerds like us.

Also, Allods online had a race called The Arisen which were cyborg mummies and are perhaps my favorite race of all time in any MMO. So you have my full support!

By the way, since the Coptics used the greek alphabet, I thought I would look things up in ancient greek too. Scorpion in greek is scorpius. I think Scorpius has much more mileage for use in a slogan than plain ol' scorpion. In ancient Egyptian it is pronounced wahato, and while that's technically authentic, it is probably too obscure for the average gamer to recognize. And lets be honest. someone shouting out Wahato just doesn't sound as cool.

So here are two options:
Drimys Scorpius (δριμύς is 4th century BC greek for sting, but also can mean keen, sharp or shrewd, and the ponunciation can be approximated with drimys or drimis, so it would be the equivalent of "Sting Scorpion!")
Agallo Scorpius (ἀγάλλω is ancient greek for exalt or glorify, and the pronunciation is like agallo, so it would be the equivalent of "Hail Scorpion")

And get this: during the reign of the Scorpion King, there were two mythincal beasts, the winged Chimera which were called sefer and a snake-necked panther (serpopard, really?) named Swdja, which means "undestroyable."

There are so many places to take this that would play out well in our game...

Huckleberry wrote:

...that is if Stargate hasn't overplayed it for an entire generation of nerds like us.

I'm sure that's possible for [i]some[/i] people. >.>

I did like that Stargate put a heavy focus on the religious aspect, since others who've gone with the Egyptian theme tend to focus on the trappings without any of the substance.

desviper wrote:

Idk about you guys but I thought "serve scorpion" was perfect: short, concise, but still battle-cry-able.

Maybe, but perhaps you missed this from the Project Lead:

warcabbit wrote:

I like it, but we'd want something a bit more... coptic.

Coptic is a greek word describing the Egyptians of the Roman era, which later became used to describe Egyptian Christians. Since I doubt our game is going to be making a group based on early practitioners of Christianity, we are left with just the Egyptian angle on the word.

Granted, a lot of games have actually made groups based on historical Christian groups, such as the Knights Templar and anything to do with Camelot or the Holy Grail; so I suppose it is possible MWM could be going for the Christian angle, but I find that unlikely.

I'm making a 'Swedish Chef' character, Just to 'serve Scorpion' on a bed of rice with some fava beans and a nice Chianti.

Be Well!
Fireheart

For all we know, once they've consumed that green gunk the only "battle cry" that may apply, or of which they may be capable, is, "Scorpion smash!"

Scorpions greatest challenge in achieving world domination is the internecine warfare over what their war cry should be.

I really like the dry, lore-heavy descriptive updates that tell you about groups, heroes, and villains rather than the stories.

But I really liked this one. It was so well-written, I want more like it. :)

As for a battle cry or slogan for Scorpion, how about, "Scorpion Supreme"? Since they want to rule the world and gain global supremacy. It sounds alliterative too to me.

I'm partial to "Scorpion STRIKE!" myself.

I really don't know much about greek, so I may have made a conjugation error, but I think this is correct:

σηκώνομαι σκορπιός και τσίμπα

pronounced

sikonomai Scorpius kai tsimpa

meaning

rise Scorpion and strike!

I went for the aliteration of the s sound with the k sound. I think it kinda rolls off the tongue, even if it is a bit long. But I can imagine hundreds of troopers shouting this on the parade ground.

Airhead wrote:

"Aculeus!"

Even if MWM doesn't adopt this, it would be the perfect name for the iconic weapons the Scorpion soldiers use (assuming they will have iconic weapons), since Aculeus is the name for an animal's stinger. Good one!

Gluke wrote:

I understand CoT and Heroes and Villains started out as a single project before they diverged creatively and split, so does this group concept predate the split? http://www.heroes-and-villains.com/phpb/home.php?page=characters&sub=vg

Yes, in fact I was the one who created the original concept. As you can see, both our own and H&V's concept has diverged significantly. But the root came right off the fingertips of yours truly, something I am quite proud of.

Gluke wrote:

With both CoT and H&V having your Cobra/Spectre-type organization called the same thing and with the same means and methods, both in a city called Titan... have you considered changing the name to something else? I've got to admit, I find Scorpion a little hokey for the name of the organization overall.

The name makes sense once you understand the larger picture. I cannot say any more else spoil the surprise.

Hockey?

like in the Turtles comic? Ahhh, `Casey Jones` was it?

Fireheart wrote:

“Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.”
Hokey is a critical part of comics!
Be Well!
Fireheart

Traditional, yes. Critical, no, IMO. The best examples of superhero comics, even when they are funny, and more science-fantasy than science-fiction, are not usually described as hokey. The Silver Age and even Bronze Age were a long time ago, comics have moved on since then...