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Discuss: Introducing Hijinx! MWM Publishing! And a FAQ!

Hm. If this were a letters page, what would the title be? EDITORIAL HIJINX?
Check out the update here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/missingworldsmedia/the-phoenix-project-city-of-titans/posts/1646901 till we get the forum post up. (Shadow'll probably pull it off tomorrow AM)

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Missing World Missives?

Missing World Missives?

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Ah, that's why there's no

Ah, that's why there's no update atm; someone's been putting up new art over at the patreon page!

Methinks someone is gonna wish he hadn't taken the purse. ^_^

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Ah, you're one of the people

Ah, you're one of the people who found our Patreon early! It's over here at https://www.patreon.com/HiJinx you know.
(I'mma gonna just repeat this link every third sentence for the next month.)
(there's fresh concept art, too!)

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Guilty as charged, but I

Guilty as charged, but I blame Ysangard. ^_^

I like question 3 in the FAQ at the bottom of the update, and I like the answer even better!

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I'll be hanging out here if

I'll be hanging out here if anyone has questions. This update is really important to me - I've been trying to get this off the ground for over a year and a half. We're now far enough along with the game, and we're confident enough in our people, that we can say 'we will reliably do what we promise.'

So, uh. Evangelize it, would you guys? Share the patreon link, tell everyone this'll be awesome?

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Shadow Exceeds Expectations

Shadow Exceeds Expectations (the update is now on the site) (and all the social media)

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Patronized! Uh... sorry to

Patronized! Uh... sorry to sound patronizing

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Hey, Airhead! I was just

Hey, Airhead! I was just thinking bout your embassy the other day. I hope you've been watching the building progress.

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warcabbit wrote:
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I'll be hanging out here if anyone has questions. This update is really important to me - I've been trying to get this off the ground for over a year and a half. We're now far enough along with the game, and we're confident enough in our people, that we can say 'we will reliably do what we promise.'
So, uh. Evangelize it, would you guys? Share the patreon link, tell everyone this'll be awesome?

I went to the patreon site and did a search for "hijinx" and nothing comes up. If your page is not searchable, you may have a problem.

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first of all nice faq,

first of all nice faq, certianly explains things and good to hear you are still on track.
went to the patreon site, and so far i really like what i see.
great art work and i must confess that i love the HiJinx character and concept too,
subscribed and looking forward to see her and other cot characters adventures.
love all the concept art there too, top work. ;)

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When I type Hijinx in the

When I type Hijinx in the search bar I get our site right away. Maybe you're spelling it wrong? I tested and it's not case sensitive.

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Pledged!

Pledged!

I'm still love to see an option to go ahead and start paying a monthly fee for CoT. Think it'd be awesome if the game launched in a year and the early supporters already had 12 month veteran badges :)

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1) Thank you for including

1) Thank you for including the FAQ about the actual game in the update :). I personally appreciate it, and it helps to keep the type misunderstandings that happened with last update down--at least a bit. Though of course they'll still happen (and are, but c'est la vie :/).

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Pledged!
I'm still love to see an option to go ahead and start paying a monthly fee for CoT. Think it'd be awesome if the game launched in a year and the early supporters already had 12 month veteran badges :)

2) I agree, but the more I think about it, this is probably better. It allows us to support not only MWM directly to support the game, but also creates a potential alternate way of getting attention for the game. Pretty win/win-ish.

Glad to finally have a chance to contribute, going there now!

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I find this week's update

I find this week's update really encouraging. First of all, I like the professional (literally and aesthetically) quality of the Hijinx comic. I've seen AAA comics from the Big Guys that are not as high quality as this. That, combined with the chance to back MWM a bit more, make this an easy thing for me to get behind financially. Also, as Empyrean says:

Empyrean wrote:

It allows us to support not only MWM directly to support the game, but also creates a potential alternate way of getting attention for the game. Pretty win/win-ish.

In addition, I like that you folks anticipated and answered many questions in the FAQ. Pleased to hear about plans for slacker-backers, and also very intrigued about the never-done-before thing for female characters.

I appreciate the continuing open and frank dialogue you have with us, and I continue to have faith that you folks will "sell no wine before its time." Even if it sounds like I'm going to have to scrap my idea for Captain Tubeofrocks.

Spurn all ye kindle.

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Super stoked. MWM is

Super stoked. MWM is increasing its profile:

The IP of city of Titans will be able to be fleshed out.

New fans can support CoT game and company.

MWM has its first digital product that they can eventually sell independent of the game to have sales metrics.

The venture capitalist in me is very proud.

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Shadow Elusive wrote:
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When I type Hijinx in the search bar I get our site right away. Maybe you're spelling it wrong? I tested and it's not case sensitive.

Weird. I get an error:

Patreon wrote:

Search "hijinx"
Show: All / Creators / Creator Posts
Don't see what you're looking for? Recommend a creator to join Patreon
Recommend "hijinx" to join Patreon
We love helping creators! Just recommend them and we’ll make it happen.

I just hope it's only me. Don't worry, I've already patreonized you, but I'm worried others might have trouble finding you.

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Pleonast wrote:
Pleonast wrote:

Shadow Elusive wrote:
When I type Hijinx in the search bar I get our site right away. Maybe you're spelling it wrong? I tested and it's not case sensitive.
Weird. I get an error:
Patreon wrote:
Search "hijinx"
Show: All / Creators / Creator Posts
Don't see what you're looking for? Recommend a creator to join Patreon
Recommend "hijinx" to join Patreon
We love helping creators! Just recommend them and we’ll make it happen.
I just hope it's only me. Don't worry, I've already patreonized you, but I'm worried others might have trouble finding you.

Ah, I found the problem. Patreon.com is routing its searches through another domain "algolia.io". My browser blocks tunnels like that by default (it's a common vector of web hijacks). I manually unblocked it and search for "hijinx" works as expected.

So, it's patreon.com's problem, not yours. Might want to mention to them they're using suspicious-looking calls on their website.

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Thank you, I will!

Thank you, I will!

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Patronized! Uh... sorry to sound patronizing

Is that Romantic Raymond in your avatar?

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Gluke wrote:
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Is that Romantic Raymond in your avatar?

Oh my, that was obscure! Thanks to www.strippersguide.com for clearing that up. No it's a site about ancient comic strips. Well the ol' avatar doesn't look quite like Raymond but, aw crumps, it could sound like him.

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Okay, cool.

Okay, cool.
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I can't get it out of my head

I can't get it out of my head, "Master Gluke's come to rescue me." Random indeed!

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So, when the webcomic goes

So, when the webcomic goes public, will there be a TWC vote button? If so, what categories?

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Geez. Good thought. Had not

Geez. Good thought. Had not investigated that yet, been focusing on getting it functional and secure.

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"Something new for female

"Something new for female characters that has never been done in a game before"... I'm actually excited to see what this is! O.O

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Tbh, on the FAQ you made me

Tbh, on the FAQ you made me worried until "Now we need to make it look good." ;)

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Anyone else having trouble

Anyone else having trouble logging into the Patreon site this morning?

I put in my login details correctly (I triple-checked) but it said they were wrong, so I clicked the Forgot Password button (even though I hadn't forgotten it) and it sends me an email with a link that's supposed to take me to a page where I can change my password, but the page it links to is the one I was just on, where it asks for my email address so it can send me a link to change my password....endless loop. :-(

I can't find a way to contact support; there's just a FAQ that doesn't A my Q.

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Hmmmm.....(*goes to Patreon,

Hmmmm.....(*goes to Patreon, logs out, logs back in, logs out again, and starts scrolling...*)

Ah! Down towards the bottom of the page, there's a button labeled "Help Center". Clicking it leads to a page with a search window. I type in "log in problems" and get a few results, I select one at random... and there at the bottom of the answer is a button to Submit A Request. Sending a question does not apparently require a Patreon account.

How long it takes for them to respond to your request is left as an exercise for the student. ^_^

Update: A form letter response arrived within minutes; but that wouldn't necessarily reflect the time for actual help to be sent.

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FAQ: Costume creator

FAQ: Costume creator

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Including something new for female characters no other game has done. Now we need to make it look good.

OK you got my attention. something no other game has done...

it's costume oriented...Jiggle sliders? Victoria's Secret High Heel Walk? Shopping animations?
What is costume related that has NEVER been done before? Hello Nurse outfit?

I am going to sit here in agony until I find out!

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Cyclops wrote:
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FAQ: Costume creator
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Including something new for female characters no other game has done. Now we need to make it look good.
OK you got my attention. something no other game has done...
it's costume oriented...Jiggle sliders? Victoria's Secret High Heel Walk? Shopping animations?
What is costume related that has NEVER been done before? Hello Nurse outfit?
I am going to sit here in agony until I find out!

Maybe it's Bane/bodybuilder physique for female toons. I don't know exactly how popular that would be, but some people would use it.

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Hmm, that's odd. Below the

Hmm, that's odd. Below the page on which the thief in the blue hoodie hides behind the dumpster, it says that "This page is going to be public, but the ones after it are Patron-Only." And yet while logged off of Patreon I can still see Page 2 of that story. (CRASH! Boo!)

Was that intended to mean, "This story is going to be public?"

Also, way to bury the lead there, Foradain: Page Two is up!

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Gluke wrote:
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Cyclops wrote:
FAQ: Costume creator
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Including something new for female characters no other game has done. Now we need to make it look good.
OK you got my attention. something no other game has done...
it's costume oriented...Jiggle sliders? Victoria's Secret High Heel Walk? Shopping animations?
What is costume related that has NEVER been done before? Hello Nurse outfit?
I am going to sit here in agony until I find out!
Maybe it's Bane/bodybuilder physique for female toons. I don't know exactly how popular that would be, but some people would use it.

Yeah I really hope super-muscular is an option for female toons; I always found it dumb that I couldn't have a Huge female. Not that I'd likely use it, but I wanted it because it wasn't there :p

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I'd be willing to bet money

I'd be willing to bet money it's a "huge female" build. As in muscular.

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The Jinx Everyone Wants

The Jinx Everyone Wants

Congrats on the new publish and addition to MWM. It is all coming together well, keep it up.

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New page up! We haven't quite

New page up! We haven't quite hit $300, but what the heck!

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Maybe it's Bane/bodybuilder physique for female toons. I don't know exactly how popular that would be, but some people would use it.
Yeah I really hope super-muscular is an option for female toons; I always found it dumb that I couldn't have a Huge female. Not that I'd likely use it, but I wanted it because it wasn't there :p

This is what I'm betting - and hoping for.

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Ding! We broke three hundred!

Ding! We broke $ three hundred!

BTW, if anyone else added up the amounts pledged and got (for example, from the last time I checked) $312 when the top of the page says $301, that's because the top is showing (https://patreon.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/206197906) what the creator gets after Patreon deducts transaction fees and their 5% cut and declined pledges.

hmm $312*.95=$296.40... Looks like some people aren't worrying about the pledge reward levels, perhaps even (shocking, isn't it?) pledging what they can afford!

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Gluke wrote:
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Maybe it's Bane/bodybuilder physique for female toons. I don't know exactly how popular that would be, but some people would use it.

Actually the suggestion to have a "huge female" body model or at least "muscular" females was one of the top suggestions on the old CoH forums. It came up practically every few weeks for years there.

desviper wrote:

Yeah I really hope super-muscular is an option for female toons; I always found it dumb that I couldn't have a Huge female. Not that I'd likely use it, but I wanted it because it wasn't there :p

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I'd be willing to bet money it's a "huge female" build. As in muscular.

As far as I knew the ability to make a bulky/muscular female body was already something we were going to get in CoT. As least the "idea" of having a big female doesn't seem like brand new "news" to me here. If that's all they're talking about in this new FAQ then I'd almost consider it anti-climactic.

I'm actually hoping for something that would be truly revolutionary that "no other game has ever done" for female characters like let them wear ANY costume item regardless if it was originally intended for males or females. CoH came close to that goal but it still had a handful of items that were "male only" or "female only". Ideally all costume items in CoT should be 100% gender neutral so that any character could effectively wear anything they wanted.

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True...BUT gender neutral

True...BUT gender neutral would not be a benefit for female toons only, it would be for everyone.
I think it is the jiggle slider affecting how the player sees the world.

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Lothic wrote:
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As far as I knew the ability to make a bulky/muscular female body was already something we were going to get in CoT. As least the "idea" of having a big female doesn't seem like brand new "news" to me here. If that's all they're talking about in this new FAQ then I'd almost consider it anti-climactic.

Well I don't know if they've ever Officially Announced (TM) that they were including that - I think that was always on the "nice to have" list.

Come to think of it - there HAVE been muscular female body types in games before (for instance, Zarya in Overwatch) - and you can get some jacked women in Dragon's Dogma (though there are some slight clipping and body frame issues).

Quote:

I'm actually hoping for something that would be truly revolutionary that "no other game has ever done" for female characters like let them wear ANY costume item regardless if it was originally intended for males or females. CoH came close to that goal but it still had a handful of items that were "male only" or "female only". Ideally all costume items in CoT should be 100% gender neutral so that any character could effectively wear anything they wanted.

Indeed - if they were going to turn the restrictions off for one it should be much more simple to just have no restrictions at all (barring any potential technical difficulties of course - I know the avatar builder is supposed to be extremely flexible but you never know).

It will be interesting to see what this feature is.

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Well I don't know if they've ever Officially Announced (TM) that they were including that - I think that was always on the "nice to have" list.

Come to think of it - there HAVE been muscular female body types in games before (for instance, Zarya in Overwatch) - and you can get some jacked women in Dragon's Dogma (though there are some slight clipping and body frame issues).

Consider the following: We all know that CoH required a separate "standard male" body and a "huge male" body to account for the full range of male body types. Now in CoT we will no longer have that limitation - the single CoT male body will supposedly support the full range of small to large male body sizes.

So to carry that logic to its conclusion we will have only two main body types in CoT: male and female. If the CoT male body can account for every size from "standard" to "huge" why wouldn't the CoT female model also handle any body range from "standard" to "huge"? Why would it need to be a newsworthy "special" additional feature of the female model and not something that simply got provided by design default?

Remember the main reason we didn't have a "huge female" body model in CoH was that it would have been a fourth completely separate body model that would have had to have its own animations and costume items. It was hard enough for the CoH Devs to manage three body models to worry about adding a fourth. Now that CoT is only dealing with two main models everything relating to them will be easier.

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Indeed - if they were going to turn the restrictions off for one it should be much more simple to just have no restrictions at all (barring any potential technical difficulties of course - I know the avatar builder is supposed to be extremely flexible but you never know).

Most of the time when the CoH Devs gave us a "male-only" or "female-only" costume item it was only that way because it would have taken a lot of extra effort to make a completely unique non-clipping version of the item for the other sex. Those limitations were based on how the body models and costume items worked under 2004 era software technology.

Now with UE4 and other 2016+ technologies the ability to "fit" a costume item over two different models (male and/or female) has become much easier/automated. There may still ultimately be a small handful of items that'll end up being "one gender only" but that handful should be very tiny in CoT.

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It will be interesting to see what this feature is.

I am dying to find out! Obscure promises followed by a months long wait is cruel and unusual punishment.

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Just realized, unless this is

Just realized, unless this is too out there for a superhero MMO, maybe it's pregnancy? ;)

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Butt Jiggle? Done. Lost

Butt Jiggle? Done. Lost World 2
Large women? Done. Rift (Bahmi), FFXIV (Roegedyn), Tera (Amani)
Female wearing traditionally male costume pieces? Done. Too many times to count
Extermely large women like this http://danganronpa.wikia.com/wiki/Gallery:Sakura_Ogami? Not done yet
Male voice? not done yet as far as I know, but if they did, why would they not have the same claim for male with female voice?
Breasts on the back instead of the front? While some fanbois may rejoice, I don't think this would be something they would consider. (and because not everyone recognizes satire when they see it, this one was an attempt at poking fun at ourselves (gamers collectively) for our prurient interest in maximizing fanservice)


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Just realized, unless this is too out there for a superhero MMO, maybe it's pregnancy? ;)

Ha ha. Yeah - that's a little out there - maybe for something like Second Life, but for CoT I really wouldn't place any money on it.
Besides - why wait 9 months to generate a new character? Just log out and roll a new one ;^p.

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this one was an attempt at poking fun at ourselves (gamers collectively) for our prurient interest in maximizing fanservice)

One person's "fanservice" is another person's "I must have feature X or I will not be able to realize my total character concept and the world will come to an end!!!!"

Just saying. ;)

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Gluke wrote:
Just realized, unless this is too out there for a superhero MMO, maybe it's pregnancy? ;)
Ha ha. Yeah - that's a little out there - maybe for something like Second Life, but for CoT I really wouldn't place any money on it.
Besides - why wait 9 months to generate a new character? Just log out and roll a new one ;^p.

I'm reasonably sure (like 90% sure) there have been a few other MOOs that have allowed for "pregnant" characters. The UE4 technology being used by this game would make it relatively easy to do for CoT if the Devs ever decided to implement it.

Doing "baby bumps" as some kind of post-launch cash shop costume item seems completely reasonable. Trust me when I say there would be enough roleplayers out there who'd buy this for their characters given how many weddings I saw in CoH. If people are going to RP weddings why wouldn't they also want to RP pregnancies? ;)

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Don't get too excited, folks.

Don't get too excited, folks. The huge female, we already promised you, and this is more of a technical thing that should make people happy, quietly, rather than OH WOW. It's about respect and dignity more than anything.

We'll show you when we have it in a place we can show you. There's currently an unsightly divot we're trying to fix. Plus that freaking shoulder. Something about the import is going wrong (returns to hammering)

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Don't get too excited, folks. The huge female, we already promised you, and this is more of a technical thing that should make people happy, quietly, rather than OH WOW. It's about respect and dignity more than anything.

Thanks for the info - you know we hang on every morsel of info you drop our way. As you said I was fairly sure the "huge female" option had already been covered so it's good to hear you have something else in store for us.

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We'll show you when we have it in a place we can show you. There's currently an unsightly divot we're trying to fix. Plus that freaking shoulder. Something about the import is going wrong (returns to hammering)

*imagines warcabbit in some kind of Matrix literally hammering the divot out of a piece of digital body model like a blacksmith of old hammering on a piece of plate armor* ;)

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There's currently an unsightly divot we're trying to fix.

Ooh ooh! An outie-innie slider!

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Lothic wrote:
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warcabbit wrote:
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We'll show you when we have it in a place we can show you. There's currently an unsightly divot we're trying to fix. Plus that freaking shoulder. Something about the import is going wrong (returns to hammering)
*imagines warcabbit in some kind of Matrix literally hammering the divot out of a piece of digital body model like a blacksmith of old hammering on a piece of plate armor* ;)

Good, I'm not the only one :p

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I'm so glad you set up a way

I'm so glad you set up a way for those of us who missed the Kickstarter to throw money your way. Done.

The comic is an entertaining bonus. I don't follow superhero comics, so the style isn't my thing, really -- but the character seems to be off to a good(?) start.

CoT progress looks good, looking forward to seeing more as things start coming together.

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Ongoing revenue stream for

Ongoing revenue stream for CoT and a comic about capes I actually dig? Sign me up :D

Looks great. I love how the first impression we get of Hijinx has her personality shining through above all else. MWM continues to make me pretty proud.

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I'm glad you like that.

I'm glad you like that. Hijinx, in many ways, is a prototype for our story paths - if you like her story and how we tell it, we hope you'll like the stories we give you elsewhere.

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So Is Hijinx going to be a

So Is Hijinx going to be a character in COT? I hope so, She looks like fun.

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Thank you, Rotten.

Thank you, Rotten.

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Hooray for tags!

Hooray for tags!

Umm, what are these tags?

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Tags, like in photos. So I can tag something 'cbr' and you can click on it and see everything labeled 'cbr'

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Just became a patron, glad to help out! Can't wait to see how it all comes together into the game :D

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New Page!

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And the last free page goes

And the last free page goes up.

So, if you want to see the new pages in a coupla weeks, you can either hope that the monthly donations hit $3K, or you can contribute. ^_^

We're already at $745733, it's almost a quarter of the way there...
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I'd just like to point out

I'd just like to point out that the newest page of Hijinx is up, and my post above is mostly accurate. (edits a bit) There.

I find this reduction in subscriptions... disturbing.

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I understand there was a bug

I understand there was a bug recently that caused some users to lose a lot of subscriptions. One artist I follow on DA lost about 3/4 of his subscribers.

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Happy Halloween to the staff

Happy Halloween to the staff of MWM! Hopefully next year we can have a costume contest in the AB!

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