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Costume Contest System

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Costume Contest System

Not sure if this has been brought up. So I'll just put it out there.

How about some kind of CC system.

Say an SG wants to throw a CC. The leader hits the CC button an would get something along these lines.

Total Winning: X amount

This is optional of course. If you choose to split total.
First: x amount
Second: etc
Third: etc

Number of contestants: x amount
Players who made it to zone can queue for cc receiving a slot. Leader/ judges of CC would see a symbol beside players names to know who's in the contest.

Timer/location/slots avalible: count down before cc begins/what zone/ is there any room left. Nothing worse than stopping what your doing just to get to the contest late. Also cuts back on the local/world chat box filling up with CC questions.

Voting system: Players viewing the CC can queue the vote box. See all the contestants. Click players name to view them in detail. Then cast a vote for the ones they like. Number of votes are displayed beside the star of players in the CC. Must be in the zone to vote. Or votes can be left up to the SG throwing the CC. Only the leader/ judges can see the vote tally beside player symbol.

Voting style: option 1 let's SG control votes. option 2 leaves it up to players viewing CC.

Once Leader queue for the voting to begin. A set time frame is in place if option 2 is chosen in the voting system. If option one is chosen the SG can take as long as they need to judge.

Tied in votes: System eliminates all other votes that don't make the cut an more voting takes place till winners are selected.

Dev CC: winner of this CC is placed on an electric bill board( think time square) announcing them as this weeks CC winner.

Winnings: winnings are distributed according to what was put into total winnings/first/sec/third categories. Careful here. Once winning are set in place a notification will pop up asking you if this is whats going down. One you press yes it is locked in. If you change your mind. It must be done before voting queue begins.

Just my thoughts...

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Crowd Control? Chicken

Crowd Control? Chicken Cutlets? Carbon Copy? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CC

Oh! Costume Contest! Why didn't you Say so?

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Thx fire! lol

Thx fire! lol

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Personally I suggest we leave

Personally I suggest we leave such things to the players. The players invented CCs in the first place. They determined the rules, the prizes, the time and location. I WOULD like a better place to hold them (CO does this in a theater which is pretty cool). However CCs were wholly invented by the players after the game launched so IMHO we should let that happen again. It'll be organic that way and take on a life of its own and grow as needed within the game.

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Indeed.

Indeed.

But an interface (loosely used) like suggested would be neat if possible, especially those that hold contests where they use voting to determine winner and not a couple of people's judgment, although those probably will still exist.

Most things in the MMO world that is common these days have been invented by a player at some point in time. And it would be very fitting for a game that is "by the community for the community".
Plus probably will cut down on "rip off contest" AKA "You win but sorry kid no money. False advertising to get people to come. ha ha."

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jag40 wrote:
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Indeed.
But an interface (loosely used) like suggested would be neat if possible, especially those that hold contests where they use voting to determine winner and not a couple of people's judgment, although those probably will still exist.
Most things in the MMO world that is common these days have been invented by a player at some point in time. And it would be very fitting for a game that is "by the community for the community".
Plus probably will cut down on "rip off contest" AKA "You win but sorry kid no money. False advertising to get people to come. ha ha."

I never once saw this happen.

I find it disconcerting that after 5 years of play amounting to THOUSANDS of hours I seldom saw the bad behavior I keep hearing people talk about. What...did everyone get burned once and never forget? There is no way I could have been lucky enough to bypass this...

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I just had the idea of having

I just had the idea of having a instanced location for costume contests. So the SG leader goes to the "Hall of Style" and talks to some NPC to set up the contests. This NPC broadcasts that "Group X is sponsoring a fashion show in Y mints" to everyone in the zone. People who want to enter talk to the NPC and are given a seat in a auditorium. Then each player will walk down the catwalk, be given 5-10 second to do an emote then walk back. Then the person who set up the contest can pick his favorites and the contestants can vote for a peoples choice. I know doing all of this would be complex to program but I hope that some parts of it would work out. Even if its just seating up some sort of hall where players can hold the contests. After all the costume contests I have been in we seem to be able to organize ourselves most of the time.

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"Rip off contestants",

"Rip off contestants", "teleporting contestant finalist to blue rooms leaving them there", "SG leader not paying the amount or item that made ppl show in the first place" " Rigg CC's" seen an SG on virtues pick the same guy over and over. One time he was in the area but not participating in the cc. This system not meant to punish but hold ppl accountable for what they do or don't do. Much better to have a "personal note "of real an false SG CC holders. An it would run "cleaner". IMO of course...

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Comicsluvr wrote:
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jag40 wrote:
Indeed.
But an interface (loosely used) like suggested would be neat if possible, especially those that hold contests where they use voting to determine winner and not a couple of people's judgment, although those probably will still exist.
Most things in the MMO world that is common these days have been invented by a player at some point in time. And it would be very fitting for a game that is "by the community for the community".
Plus probably will cut down on "rip off contest" AKA "You win but sorry kid no money. False advertising to get people to come. ha ha."

I never once saw this happen.
I find it disconcerting that after 5 years of play amounting to THOUSANDS of hours I seldom saw the bad behavior I keep hearing people talk about. What...did everyone get burned once and never forget? There is no way I could have been lucky enough to bypass this...

not once seen it happen a bunch of times. Even one person went to the forums to warn against the certain group that was doing this on the virtue server. They got flamed pretty hard and told to quit whining about a CC. But not too often either. Personally seen it four times on virtue from issue 4-11, three times on freedom i7-20 and 8 times on virtue i14-20. That just the ones that refused to give money up that I personally was there to witness. Now there have been word of more.

Now the other stuff like the teleport thing and rigged contest, seen countless times. I ended up in a SG that had a habit of rigging CCs they held. They would pick a name of person down the list in the SG by date of who got their first and who is on at the time of the scheduled CC which is usually scheduled with the person that is chosen to win prior to the public announcement. They show up, they go through the motion and give the prize to the person that have been pre selected. And sometimes so people didn't get wise, they had the person create or choose an alt that isn't in the SG yet to give the prize to.

Then there were some that seemed suspect, same SG, same winner each time who just so happen to be in the SG or the winner of certain SG is always an SG member. But not including that here. Just the ones that I personally know about.

It happens. Of course there will be some people that haven't seen hardly a profanity in COX, but there are some people that seen all types of stuff, and wondering how in the world can they be so unlucky to run across seemingly all the idiots in COX of course they have been told to shut up and or assumption been made it was their fault and telling them(the unlucky one) they did not experienced anything of the such because they personally didn't see it. Which looking back probably didn't help the their view at all when people tell them that their (the unlucky one)experience is totally invalid because they (the responder) didn't experienced it in their X amount of years (usually seemed to be someone claiming to been playing since beta) and thus it was impossible for the person (the unlucky one) to experience what they said they experienced.

Some stuff that I haven't even seen done or knew people could do but heard other people say Like the teleporting someone into the blue room or space. Never personally seen it but doesn't mean it never happened.
Kind of like if someone said they rarely come across friendly people in their X amount of years playing and thus there is no way other people came across that many friendly people. I guess people that have indeed come across friendly people and say they have and refute the point, based on their own experience, that friendly people are indeed common. Experience is key Experience. Maybe they haven't seen many friendly people, and maybe that is the reason why someone else hardly seen unfriendly people. Because they are busy badgering the other guy :D

But besides that, I also think that feature could allow CC to run smoother and potentially add an extra type of way for contest to be decided. Voting of the people- in a more easier and harder to tamper with manner. And probably would save time on both ends because usually the actual contest takes about what 30 min looking at the costumes and deciding, but the setup from the time can take an hour itself from the time to people arrived to figuring out who is in and who is out, and who is who, and transferring the currency over, and etc. Of course yea yeah well sitting around for that amount of time is part of the fun". Of course it is, and they can still do so if they choose but if say they want to run one or don't want to sit around for long time doing it the old fashioned way, there is a UI that can streamline the process. Never know, might start a revolution of costume contest UI in other games. Hey everything started somewhere from the power trays, to powers that have recharge time, to animating the actual attacks. Which mostly been attributed to fantasy games. Why not invaded the innovation realm that have been ruled for years by fantasy games, and put a super hero stamp on it.

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I have to admit, I've seen

I have to admit, I've seen some pretty childish behavior. I was thrilled when the Devs put in the 'do you want to be teleported y/n' thing. LOTS of people abusing Recall before that in the Hollows. Had a guy do it to me when we were waiting for a mission to start. Odd that he was the one guy on the team that never got healed or rezzed during that mission.

Safety tip: Never piss of your only healer in a lowbie mission.

As for rigged CCs...I believe that they happened but why bother? You're giving prize money to someone who you know is going to win...why waste time hosting a CC for that?

Some people's kids...

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As mentioned in another

As mentioned in another thread, it *may* be possible to establish player-defined instances for special events. These defined instances *could possibly* be defined as XP-free, NPC-free, powers-free, etc... to allow for Costume Contests or open zone dueling (obviously, not both at the same time).

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I'm glad we're thinking of

I'm glad we're thinking of this in terms of limiting griefing, but I'd be a little sad if Costume Contests started to become "invitation only" instances. One of the most fun things for me was watching CC's. Just stumbling upon them in Atlas was often a welcome diversion. I advocated somewhere in another thread the idea of publicly accessible "no-power" zones scattered around the city. We know who we are, and we know we want them, maybe some of these areas/locations could be designed as "contest friendly."

- Open air concert venues/band shells
- Sport stadiums
- Natural amphitheaters
- Roof gardens
- etc

Heck, I think places like that could quickly become landmarks in and of themselves. And with a variety of different ones they might encourage more "themed" contests.

As an aside, I was often disappointed in the lack of any kind of defined criteria when somebody was holding a contest. I occasionally thought it had to be rigged for some of the winners I saw. When I got my first level 50 I celebrated by personally sponsoring a costume contest (No SG) every Thursday night for a month. But I broadcast beforehand HOW I was going to judge. I specified that it was for characters level 10 and under (for a couple of reasons.) I even required entrants to have a bio so I could check the costume against their concept. One guy actually told me that if I was only offering 5,000,000 for first place (+2 mil for 2nd & 500K for 3rd) that it was a waste of his time. ::shrug:: I was doing it 4 times in a month, on the "income" of a single 50, and a handful of alts. This was also before AE farms existed.

Later, when I had several 50's feeding my alts, if I saw someone who put a lot of thought and effort into a costume and lost to someone who was just obviously getting some preferential treatment, I'd toss 'em a mil as consolation.

I consider the above to be more reason not to have them instanced. I could see how doing that might reduce attendance to just those that were entering. My $.02

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I would love rentable public

I would love rentable public space (using in-game currency to rent). With this I'd also like a toggle switch for whether combat is allowed or disallowed. And if the "Combat Allowed"Toggle is set to "yes" then players then have a secondary toggle of "Enemies Attack" where we can have enemy spawns that come in as well as a PvP tag for those who want it (not sure how PvP toggle would work since there's not really "defined" heroes and villains as much as ambiguous morality).

Basically I want a venue that acts as a sandbox for RP, Costumes, PvP and PvE instead of one specifically for Costumes that completely doesn't allow for gameplay.

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JayBezz wrote:
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Basically I want a venue that acts as a sandbox for RP, Costumes, PvP and PvE instead of one specifically for Costumes that completely doesn't allow for gameplay.

So you're in favor of using the [url=http://cityoftitans.com/comment/37281#comment-37281]SG Registrar Base Touring Feature[/url] then?

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