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Villains get to rob banks. I want a little reward as well. If I rescue a fair maiden, I want a kiss. FURTHER, I want three temp powers to apply a lipstick mark as a costume accessory. Villains don't rescue people, so the don't get a kiss...this will be a hero only perk.
maybe a villain can get a temp costume accessory: Black eye. or have cash hanging out of their pockets.
These rewards last only for a few minutes when worn, but can be stored or banked.
These temp rewards can be sold at the store as part of the player economy. Heck, a player can get a screen shot covered with kisses for boasting rights.
what do ya think?
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The kiss thing would be neat for a Valentine's event. Temp power that blows a kiss to another player, places a kissy mark on them.
Other than that, what about if you save a guy? They don't tend to wear lipstick.
Also the reward for being a hero is the satisfaction of doing good.
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
well a guy will shake your hand. just an emote.
Only girls give kisses. Cause that's their job (along with making sandwiches) .
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Why should only heroes get all the kissy-fun? ;)
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Outside of there being no hero or villain labels to go by mechanics wise I think a better way to determine if you get such a "kiss" temp power would be not by the mere act of rescuing someone from their current predicament but rather how you send them off, that is are you sending them to a safe place or a bad place after rescuing them.
Maybe they could come up with a relatively simple "kiss on the cheek for good luck" emote that could be used by any PC or NPC. A hypothetical "rescued NPC" could use it on a PC after being rescued or it could be used by PCs on each other.
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Maybe they could even make it so that it bestows a tiny/trivial buff to the receiver of the kiss for a few minutes to encourage people to kiss each other. ;)
P.S. No reason why they couldn't also have a "kiss on the [b]lips[/b] for good luck" variant emote for characters who share "closer" relationships. ;)
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I think this sounds a lot more like a post that should live in the Suggestions and Ideas forum than the FAQ forum
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Whats the artist behind that image? It's ridiculously cute.
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Are you a time traveler from the 1950s? You may want to brush up on the progress society has made since then.
Spurn all ye kindle.
It's a joke. Most people were able to get it.
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I hope the entire thread was intended as a joke. Else I just need to repeat my question.
Spurn all ye kindle.
You can purchase a sense of humor in the company store.
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"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
YOU SUCK MCBAIN!
Mah dude jokes like these don't work these days.
Sadly a lot of people genuinely do wish to go back to the 1950s or make genuinely sexist or misogynistic comments towards women and think all manner of bigoted things about them.
Just telling you were Ciinder is coming from. I just wanted to know what the cute art was as I figured this thread might get roiled in politics.
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If a snowflake melts, it melts.
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Personally I wasn’t offended. It was so clearly a ridiculous statement that it had to have been meant in humor.
But it also wasn’t funny either, just saying. It was a facepalm-worthy effort to me.
Yeah, between the sexist joke, and "snowflake" comment, I just kind of see this whole thread as a waste of time. Maybe Cyclops needs to take a break, he certainly would win the award for most topics created.
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It's funny that people who complain about "snowflakes" tend to complain more about them than the so-called "snowflakes" complain about anything else.
I guess some people just want something to complain about.
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
http://ew.com/article/2015/06/08/jerry-seinfeld-politically-correct-college-campuses/
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Like Chris Rock and Larry the Cable Guy, Jerry Seinfeld avoids doing shows on college campuses. And while talking with ESPN’s Colin Cowherd on Thursday, the comedian revealed why: College kids today are too politically correct.
“I hear that all the time,” Seinfeld said on The Herd with Colin Cowherd. “I don’t play colleges, but I hear a lot of people tell me, ‘Don’t go near colleges. They’re so PC.'”
Seinfeld says teens and college-aged kids don’t understand what it means to throw around certain politically-correct terms. “They just want to use these words: ‘That’s racist;’ ‘That’s sexist;’ ‘That’s prejudice,'” he said. “They don’t know what the hell they’re talking about.”
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There may be a time and place to toss around SJW crap. But a thread like this is not one of them.
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This sure is the internet.
I couldn’t agree more!
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“...the political correctness movement has gone way too far. While the original intent of political correctness may have been good (to encourage tact and sensitivity to others’ feelings around issues of gender, race, religion, sexual orientation, physical abilities, and such), the effect of political correctness has been to make everyone avoid these topics altogether — thereby hindering our ability to get comfortable in living and working with those who are different from us. It’s gone so far that political correctness has become a bigger problem than the problem it was intended to address!”
It seems these days that it is only acceptable to be sensitive to specific groups rather than everyone.
Oh and that’s not just my opinion...
"A sad spectacle. If they be inhabited, what a scope for misery and folly. If they be not inhabited, what a waste of space." ~ Thomas Carlyle
It was much better in the old days where people were just sensitive to white men, right?
I don't find people too politically correct. No one has ever told me anything I've said has been racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic/whatever. Being PC is easy, just don't be a colossal ass to people.
If you're being "targeted" by the PC crowd, maybe it's time to look at yourself and ask yourself if you -are- being offensive.
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"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
Eh, I’ve known a few people who take being “PC” too far, but generally those are people who are a bit racist/sexist themselves. For example, a friend of mine once opined that she wished she went to college at a female-only campus because having male students around was a distraction. I said that segregating a campus seems wrong, and asked her if she was okay with a male-only campus. She insisted that would be sexist.
I will say though, while that sort of thinking does exist among some of the college set in my experience it’s not that common. Definitely not to the extent that is complained about by most throwing around “snowflake” accusations. To be frank, people are people and there are always people that get kooky ideas in their head. I don’t think there’s any kind of systemic problem, just usual wacky human behavior.
To be fair to the women's only campus suggestion, the number 1 danger to women is men. Their distraction reasoning is weak, but I could see a need/want for it. Though mostly just to hopefully allow female students to feel safe while at school.
But America has a pretty big problem with people feeling unsafe at schools in general.
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
America, right now, is the least sexist, racist, homophobic, etc etc etc, place that has ever existed. Which is why so many consider the USA the greatest nation there has ever been.
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Yeah that's one thing that most Americans don't consider because sadly most Americans don't travel around the world or are even remotely aware of how most of the rest of the world lives. Sure there are still injustices here where things could (and should) be made better. But when compared to roughly 95% of the rest of the world we have things amazingly worked out even DESPITE all of our current (or self-assumed) problems.
P.S. Our public infrastructure -is- falling apart but that's another issue. On the "diversity acceptance" front we are still (again amazingly) pretty much leading the world.
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Nailed it.
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Agreed. America isn't perfect, and never will be...because people will never be perfect. The laws of this country, however, have made this country a haven unlike any other.
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"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
Compared to like 95% of the rest of the world, yes, it is. When you consider all the problems we actually do currently have in America it makes you realize how generally F'd up most of the rest of the world is...
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Yeah, it -might- be one of the top runners. But "America, right now, is the least sexist, racist, homophobic, etc etc etc, place that has ever existed" highly doubtful.
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
I fear you may be putting too much faith that what you see on the msm is actually representative of America in general.
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Despite everything going on lately I would still bet on America being at least in the top five for "tolerance of diversity".
Seriously I'll say it again for emphasis - [b]that's truly how F'd up the rest of the world is[/b].
P.S. I've spent a total of several years overseas spread amongst 6 or 7 different countries. Even with that modest amount of experience I can tell you first hand we seriously have it pretty good in the USA all things considered.
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Considering I don't really watch MSM... Doubtful. I don't even have cable.
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
After a quick google search the US is barely in the top 20.
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
Right... I'll trust what I've seen first hand thanks. That was basically my point earlier in this thread - most Americans have never personally travelled overseas to have any basis for comparison.
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I said nothing about sensitivity to white men or the old days, and while you don’t necessarily say things that are politically-incorrect you are quite condescending, flippant, and rude. And yes you offend people nearly every day.
Whenever we trade freedom to speak openly for fear of offending delicate sensibilities we are going too far. It has nothing to do with who was offended it has to do with freedom of speech and opinion.
The first step to controlling people and rewriting history is to make them speak in a particular way. Google G. Carlin and see what he had to say about it.
P.S. if google is your only source of information you have much to look forward to when you grow up.
"A sad spectacle. If they be inhabited, what a scope for misery and folly. If they be not inhabited, what a waste of space." ~ Thomas Carlyle
Ah yes, anecdotal evidence. The best kind.
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
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Google isn't a source of information. It is a resource to find information.
You trade freedom to speak openly for fear of offending any time you be civil. All political correctness is, is civility.
And you want me to look up a comedian to see what they have to say on the subject? I'm sure he has a fair and completely unbiased opinion on the subject as a "counterculture comedian". It's not as if his livelihood is all about saying offensive things.
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
No that may have been the intent of PC but it is not what it has become.
Experience beats google searches. When you have some you’ll get that.
Have fun with it last_word_P.
"A sad spectacle. If they be inhabited, what a scope for misery and folly. If they be not inhabited, what a waste of space." ~ Thomas Carlyle
I like that you just assume things about me. Please continue.
And no, one person's experience doesn't beat having a huge sample size of multiple experiences to compare your own with.
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
Against your "no personal experience"? Always.
Of my "small sample size" are countries that are generally considered "first world" level (such as Japan, South Korea and Singapore) and I'll STILL stand by what I said that the USA is the country likely doing the best on "acceptance of diversity" among them.
Even if we are to believe your "barely in the top 20" statistic (which BTW who knows what the source of that number is) that would still put the USA at worst 20th out of 195 countries. Top 10% is not too bad. *shrugs*
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As with anything it can be abused.
[url=https://listverse.com/2010/10/26/10-ridiculous-cases-of-political-correctness/]A few examples[/url] that go beyond simple civility. Yes the list is old (from 2010) and not all are from USA but I don't think it gotten that much better on the PC front since then. Yes these are the exception to it (PC being about civility) but it shows that some people or companies/organizations go way beyond that.
Wow, a list of ten things, some of which were things only suggested by people then reversed. The horror. The absolute horror that people could suggest changing some things because of some kind of perceived offense only for it then to not happen.
The first one on the list, the Microsoft thing is likely due to some form of automated system.
The second was changed rather quickly after implementation.
One person complained on the next and then no changes were done.
Disney took it upon themselves to stop circulation of the film, for the next one.
Isn't it technically against the law or the constitution of America to wear the flag as a garment anyway in the next one? And oh no, they sent some students home for the day truely PC culture has gone too far!
Number five is supposition on the part of the author.
Don't know about this next one, not enough information is given.
Some guys were charged with a crime and then turned out to be innocent. For this one. Honestly has very little to do with PC anything.
The next one says that the army didn't want to profile the guy and yet there was an FBI investigation into him. Strange how that happened when the army didn't want to accuse him. "An investigation conducted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) concluded that his e-mails with the late Imam Anwar al-Awlaki were related to his authorized professional research and that he was not a threat."
And finally the last one has to do with Green Peace... Which has nothing to do with anything politically correct.
Truely PC culture has gone too far. What with their, let's see here, one woman apparently shouted at some kids... It's really destroying America as you know it.
Edit: Though if you want we could compare this list to a list of the atrocities committed in the name of racism, sexism, homophobia, and the like then see how they compare and which bad stuff you'd rather have around.
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
I love how a topic on love and acceptance can turn into a flame war. The key to acceptance is to tolerate other peoples opinions and try to see where they are coming from, not to judge and negate them. As well, the only way to bring peace is to make our own lives peaceful.
But to go back to the main point, I would not mind the whole kiss thing(preferably a cheek thing, I feel like full on making out would be a bit over the top). And if it were to happen it should be an available option to every character, female, male, robot, chicken, etc
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Just remember, for a country that is said to be bad by a few Americans and those of other countries, it still has more people trying to get in illegally and legally, than trying to get out. :p
You never hear about illegal American immigrants and their plight on other countries as they try to sneak in to Mexico, Canada or any European/Asian country. :p
America may need some things to be better, but it's still one of the best countries.
I had a feeling this topic was going to go places once someone pointed out how the original post sounded.
I just liked the cute art guys.
+1
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It is cute art.
All that means is that the country is perceived to be better than wherever they came from.
Also most Americans are kind of brainwashed to believe that their country is the best, end of story.
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
Which is most other countries as people keep coming here :p
As for American's brainwashed. Pffft. Do you say Canadians who think their country is the best are brainwashed? Australians? British?
Someone thinking their country is the best, is just typical of lots of countries, period.
I haven't met any Canadians that claim that Canada is the best country in the world, aside from politicians or people giving speaches.
I guess what I meant is Americans mistake nationalism for patriotism. Enjoy this comic about the subject.
https://smbc-comics.com/comic/an-important-distinction
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
Hmmm...I would say most may just fall under Patriotism by that comic.
You might be thinking, "It doesn't because of third comic." With the second comic felt more conservative vs liberal bit, but most American's aren't anti-immigrant. They're anti-illegal-sneak on in-immigration. Come in through the front door legally and they're all "Welcome neighbor!" Also some "I'm against making the illegals legal just because they're here now." By that standard it may as well be "Sure, you committed the crime of murder, but we didn't catch you fast enough, you're free to be free!"
The first part though, that could be a good one for it. The other parts of it though, doesn't seem quite right fit for it.
Most Americans have a sort of irrational fear of illegal immigrants. Which is more or less unfounded as most illegal immigrants tend to be law abiding (as they don't want to be thrown out) and pay taxes.
But your country has a long history of blaming them for your troubles. Mostly because the rich want to give the poor someone to blame. "It's not your fault if your unemployed, it's the immigrants taking your jobs because somehow they are the problem and not the people hiring them for super meager wages."
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
Illegal immigrants by definition aren't law abiding, or else they wouldn't be illegal. :p The first thing they did coming into the country was commit a crime.
Not to mention, I still haven't heard of one country that says "Illegal immigration is okay here!" Yet all countries seem to have an immigration policy in place, and it's not "Hey come on in, everyone is welcome, no questions asked."
However, if you can point me to said country, I'd be interested in being enlightened. :)
First, our country does not have a long history of blaming illegal immigrants for our troubles. Illegal immigration is a relatively new phenomonen only brought to our attention by the increased ability to track people.
Rather, I think it would be far more accurate to say that our country has a long history of blaming any immigrants for our problems. And I wouldn't really disagree with you. First it was the Catholics, the Irish, the Italians, the Chinese, the Puerto Ricans, the Vietnamese, etc., etc. Depending on the community we're in, we would blame different people. But that's the cool part about it. It's that no other country has really had such a history of massive influxes of immigrants as the United States has. So If blaming immigrants is one of the dark sides we exhibit for accepting immigrants, I'd rather have that dark side than live in a country that is so culturally and ethnically pure at heart that immigrants aren't absorbed at all.
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You do know people can commit a crime then go on to be law abiding citizens, right?
The point is that the majority of these people aren't going around committing crimes. They don't have a life of crime. Their only crime is coming to the country, or overstaying their legal period of being there (work visas and the like, which is also how most illegal immigrants come into your country).
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
I didn't want to get involved in this but this is wrong. America has had a long history of blaming immigrants, illegal or not, for their troubles. In the past it was more about European immigrants fleeing from different European countries. Polish, Irish, German, whichever. Of course the irony of this is the original Europeans that fled to what is now the United States of America where immigrants themselves and ended up killing most of the native Americans, intentionally via war, slavery, or genocide or not via accidentally bringing diseases over.
If you really really dig you'll see it. Racism towards immigrants and the ''The immigrants are taking our jobs'' attitudes has been present for a long long time. America is not absolved of these faults even now.
Can we please stop this guys before it gets too nasty? Political stuff never goes well.
America is not the best country it could possibly be. You could probably generate a phonebook-size list of things this country has collectively done (or is doing) wrong. DESPITE that list America is still [b]much better off[/b] than most countries are (or have ever been). That's not "brainwashing", that's a simple fact.
If you want to split hairs I'd agree that most Americans are "brainwashed" into thinking we are always going to be "the best" without having to do anything about it. Clearly other counties such as China and India are becoming equals in world leadership. The one thing Americans continue to be rated number one at is "confidence" regardless if it's deserved or not. ;)
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I'd like to think that somewhere there's a Native American reading this thread and laughing at all of us "immigrants" quibbling about whether we collectively hate other immigrants or not. ;)
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I have native american in my blood so I guess I am that person. My initial post on Cyclops stuff was more intended to try to tell him that making jokes like that tends to go nowhere good as it can come across as needlessly sexist.
If we were to get a kiss from characters in-game for rescue I would say just make it so all hostages no matter which gender or what they are could do it. Make it equal all the way. You can also do the handshake or appreciatory clap or words the same way.
Don't make it a gender exclusive thing, it doesn't need to be
The US does try to regulate the influx of immigrants and criminalizes those who try to enter without using proper channels. Then again, so do most nations. Ironically, do you know who is even harsher than the US in this regard? Mexico. They can be draconian about their own southern border. Mexico is wealthier and more prosperous than many countries to the south and vigorously defend that border.
Many European countries have their own struggles. Great Britain has a growing nationalist movement wanting to reduce immigration much as the US does. France has clashes with migrant groups that have been extremely violent at times. It’s not an exclusively American problem for sure.
I agree. I see this as being a perfectly viable dialogue option to ask for a kiss, or to accept one that is offered. The authors of the mission don't even have to care about the sex of the NPC involved, just have it as an available option, allowing hetero-, homo- bi- or sexless characters be able to offer or accept it.
I think it would be weird and awkward if it was an option for every mission. But for some missions it might be cute or appropriate.
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I don't think having an npc kiss a pc is going to happen.
We have had enough threads and long discussions about grappling in CoT that we should all know that two character models (one of which is highly customizable) interacting this way is too much work for too little payoff.
And yet you still failed to tell me towards a country that says "Hey. Welcome on in! No questions asked!" :p
I also never said they would lead a life of crime afterwards, however, they still came into this country by committing a crime. Never the good first impression.
Though I have to say, I find the whole "Native American" a bit of a joke. All these people born in America, yet, people still trying to say they're immigrants. No one says a Mexican born in America is an immigrant. No one says anyone born in America is not American, yet some how, we still got the "Well, you're an immigrant if you're not indian." :p
As I implied before I'm only on board with this sort of thing as long as the NPCs in these mission are using existing "kissy" emotes we PCs could already use. I mean if they bother to make these animations for "special missions" they might as well make them player-usable emotes. They could always be sold in the store as part of some kind of "Valentine's Day" deal.
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Probably the most sensible answer here.
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
While I appreciate the line of reasoning here I don't think having a few "kissy" emotes is quite the same thing as an entire set of combat oriented grappling animations. There are plenty of examples of "combo emotes" in other games where characters come together for combined emote animations (such as kissing or dancing). Two or three kissing-oriented emotes would only roughly require around 5% of the time and effort that a full-blown series of combat animations for grappling would require.
P.S. Obviously my use of the "5%" value was a slightly hyperbolic educated guess on my part. But I'll stick to the suspicion that the relative cost in Dev time/effort between "grappling animations for the entire game" and "a kissing emote" is effectively on that order of magnitude of difference.
P.P.S. Also you've completely forgotten about all the RPer's who'd love to be able to kiss each other during their weddings and such. A bunch of people would likely pay for kissing emotes in CoT all things considered.
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I would love to have multi-player emotes in the game.
At least the ability to sync up dance emotes would be nice.
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
And all I'm saying is that's likely far more feasible than the "grappling animations" issue would ever be.
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Why not just do a simple blow a kiss emote?
I think a big issue with this whole kiss thing is that if you are saving someone who is say 5 feet tall, and your hero is 10 feet tall(or whatever the max is), not sure how that would work out animation wise.
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If players could use that as an emote then sure, why not? I'm simply suggesting that there are plenty of other MMOs that have managed to offer "combo emotes" like kissing. Why should we have to assume it would never be possible in CoT?
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Sure it might not look perfect with all extreme cases. But surely other MMOs that have provided "combo emotes" like this have managed to address these kinds of problems in a reasonably workable ways. In cases like this I'd rather have an emote that looks acceptable 75% of the time than to not have one like it at all - let the players decide if they want to use it or not. *shrugs*
CoH player from April 25, 2004 to November 30, 2012
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When our European ancestors came to the America's, we didn't invade a nation. There was no nation. There were warring tribes of native Americans constantly fighting over lands and killing each other and taking over their rivals territories. We just happened to be a 'tribe' from further away with better technology, weapons, and ultimately unity in numbers. Is that justification for how the native's were treated? Of course not. Are we accountable today for what happened then? Of course not. I was born on this soil just like they were and am 'entitled' to it as much as any 'native American'. And if we are getting nit picky, I am a very small part native American.
No self-respecting American would blame their problems on illegal immigrants, though there are exceptions. I am pro-immigration; this country is big enough for everyone that wants to make a new life here. But I am against illegal immigration; there are laws in place for a reason. This country has the duty and obligation to protect and serves its citizens first, above everyone else, then to see to the needs of others where possible.
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Not what I was saying at all but whatever.
Which games?
I like the idea of having a “blow a kiss” emote, which floats a cartoony pair of lips toward a character, and then it leaves a lipstick mark on a cheek (or helmet visor, or whatever). PCs can get it from a cosmetic shop.
Yes it was and you know it. You were trying to conflate the relatively hard task of coming up with workable grappling animations that would presumably cover all combat scenarios where two or more fighting characters would be touching/interacting with each other with the relatively trivial (by comparison) challenge of getting two characters to kiss each other. I'm sorry but your strawman here simply didn't pass the "smell test" this time. *shrugs*
Age of Wushu is one:
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Aion Online is another:
[img=400x400]http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r63/Azaelia_photos/kiss.jpg[/img]
FFXIV is another:
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I found these in about 30 seconds of googling. Do I have to continue?
CoH player from April 25, 2004 to November 30, 2012
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I want this as my Ranger Snipe Power xD
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Nope. I was taking about the relative value of what each will bring to the game for the effort involved, not equating the amount of effort of both.
To use your number, if it takes only 5% of the effort to bring the interactive kiss into the game then it only adds 5 % value to the game. It a matter of effort > value, not effort (kiss) = effort (grappling).
You don't have to agree but that was what I was saying.
None of these examples have the issue that would be found in CoT.
But don't bother looking for other example because I'm done.
All the while disregarding how surprisingly popular being able to kiss each other in these games is and how much money MWM could potentially make selling these emotes in their in-game store...
All I'm cluing you in on is that RPers are a funny lot and would be willing to pay stupid amounts of money for what other people might consider "valueless emotes".
CoH player from April 25, 2004 to November 30, 2012
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Again, nope. I don't think the relative value of a kiss emote would be greater than the relative value of grappling combat.
But because the relative time/effort to produce a kissing emote is so much less and the fact that people would specifically PAY EXTRA for it (as opposed to expecting something like grappling animations to come free by default) makes the kissing emote far more "profitable/practical" for MWM as company.
Trust me - CoT would have kissing emotes long, long, (did I mention long?) before it ever had a proper system of grappling animations. Money will talk in the long run.
CoH player from April 25, 2004 to November 30, 2012
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First, we have to stop editing our posts when we are both replying this quickly.
Second, I am well aware of the RPers willingness to spend money. I also know that players will pay a lot for grappling.
Sure people "might" pay for grappling. But it's far more likely most would expect it to be a default part of the game (like capes for instance). The idea of "paying for an emote in a game store" is simply more feasible/practical by its very nature.
CoH player from April 25, 2004 to November 30, 2012
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I'll happily take my influence deposits in Hugs!
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I just don't agree.
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