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Human nature is not like the honorable heroes in comics.
[b]Would supers end up becoming a new nobility and lording over the earth?[/b]
I just envision a feudal govt based on the strength of one's powers.
I call dibs on New Zealand.
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I mean, it depends on the powers. If they are god-like, then definitely, yes. If it's powers like mutants from the X-Men, then a lot of them are not immortal or impenetrable by bullets, they would probably be taken down by the government before they could over throw them.
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Likely not, as they would not be a unified force.
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Well, a Superman wouldn't be able to be everywhere. What good would it be to be ruler if you're busy enforcing everything. So, you'd be delegating lots of it. So, likely some uprisings that would be needed to be taken care of unless everyone loves you.
Government would for sure want to pull out all the stops, at least depending on the government. You're also likely to get some noble heroes and some really psycho super powered ones.
And then there's the question of what happens when two super-beings collide.
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This seems appropriate:
There also a part of the population who would have powers but won't use them either way. Telekinetic use to fetch beer from the fridge... that's about it. Is a good example! Others would use their power for fame rather then Ruling. Why use that power to charm people to rule a nation when you can be the most popular movie star ever!
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I can see the majority of super beings end up ruling the planet, but not as a unifying class where 'they take over' the muggles are second-class citizens. Instead, the super humans with ambitions and the appropriate powers are more likely going to rise to influential positions in either the government or global economy.
RL has a point: Tears for Fears notwithstanding, Everybody [I]does not[/I] want to rule the world. Even for a small metarchy it's hard work, if you want to do a good job, and if you don't, (and maybe even if you do) you have to worry about someone else deciding they want a turn at ruling your metarchy (or just anybody but you, if you did a really bad job) badly enough to arrange for your dead body to be around to do it over.
Consider organized crime. Usually the person at the top doesn't do many assassinations once they reach the top, they have people to do the wet work for them. So if there was really a universal desire to rule, why wouldn't the guy getting all the practice whack his boss, and tell the rest of the Organization, and anybody didn't like it could expect the same fate? It may be that there isn't a universal desire to rule, and it may be that the top assassin knows he's not that much better than the next guy. If he whacks the next guy first, repeating as needed until he is sure the new next guy can't whack him, then he has to do all his own wet work.
And that's not considering the possibility of people whose powers are paper to your rock. Had you considered the way other people might use their weird powers?
And of course there's a point Heinlein made in one of his stories: The greatest superpower is the intelligence to make (or acquire) and use the gadgets that can replicate or defend against superpowers. And that doesn't necessarily mean supertech, it may just mean noticing limitations or weaknesses.
My point? When you set out to rule by force, your chest symbol starts to look like the logo of a certain chain store, with the red and white circles. And not just to those who want your spot, but also to the heroes (which there will be, it's just a question of will there be enough of them to make Cyclops' postulate irrelevant), to those who you stepped on and their relatives, to those who are worried that they might be on your list of "the guys who could take me if I don't take them first", [i] to everybody[/i]. And all it takes is one to have the means to hire one of those guys from your list, or who would've been on your list, had you known about them, or hadn't underestimated them, or whatever.
Much easier to just rule yourself.
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Did anybody say [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Star_Trek#Eugenics_Wars_and_World_War_III]The Eugenics Wars[/url]? Is there nothing Star Trek can't teach us? ;)
But even beyond that example having only 1% of the pop with superpowers leaves a lot of wiggle room. As others have pointed out the "offensive strength" of those powers would make a big difference - would all those people be "Superman" level powerful or just powerful enough to see in IR or hear a bee fart? If it's the latter none of these people are likely going to take over anything.
Also as pointed out there's pretty much no chance these relatively few people will instantly unite together as a single faction to dominate anything. Human nature being what it is they would likely be too busy trying to be famous or fighting each other directly one-on-one to worry too much about the "little people" around them.
I would think you'd need to have a much larger percentage turn "super" before you're guaranteed they would eventually coalesce together as a single functional faction with political ambitions. I figure you'd need at least 10-15% of the pop become super-powered before they'd accept that it's truly an "us vs. humans" situation and would be willing to work together as a single force - at least until the "human problem" was settled first.
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Hmmmm, dang.
so that means no one wants to take over New Zealand with me?
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Idk, the Top 1% already rule us ;)
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Eh, they don't really "rule" us as much as live in a completely different "alternate reality" from us. They couldn't care less if we live or die as long as we don't intrude on them - kind of like how the super wealthy live in the [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green]Soylent Green[/url] setting. ;)
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No thanks, too much work taking over anything. Ill just maybe help with catching some criminals here and there.....for a FEE
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So I see you're more the 'Captain Amazing' style of superhero...
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Haha. Definitely a bit of that.
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It's like an elysium thing (warning, haven't actually seen the movie): they enjoy their alternate reality while we muck in the slums, and if we tried to bring elysium back, they'd drop the hammer. So they do de facto rule us ;)
And really, what's Batman, he's rich. Same for Iron Man and Green Arrow. The realest super power there is is money. So the 1% are already superpowered.
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It's a decent movie. Jodie Foster's horrible in it but Matt Damon does a fairly good job keeping it together.
I still think the tip-top hyper-rich "rule" us the same way an average person "rules" an ant mound. Most of the time they couldn't care less if we existed as long as we don't make any trouble. Sure if they misstep a bunch of us could momentarily sting them but if they ever bothered to give us a second thought they could wipe us out in a hundred different ways. They really do live in "another world" as your Elysium example illustrated in a literal way.
In one of the upcoming Justice League movie trailers The Flash literally asks Batman, "What are your superpowers?" and he responds, "I'm rich." ;)
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Let's not forget some Supers will be working for Governments. The Super Soldiers, your Super Cops, and other in the system powers. They won't be Heroes who know what the Men in Black will be doing, but we can't call them Villains either. Some of these agents would be in the system because they want to. Others will be in the systems because the governments would have their families in "Protective Custody".
This reminds me of other posts. Even the movie comments! I think we all agree that there wouldn't be just one thing happening. Some places where there already a weak government would be taken over. Other locations with a strong government would be more secure. Some locations the supers are seen as Gods, or next step in evolution, others "Burn the Witch" comes to mind. But I think the majority would just try to have a normal life.
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...if 1% of the population had superpowers would they rule over the rest of the world? I would say no. those few superpowered folks that attempt to assert their 'authority' would eventually be put down after they passed a certain threshold. people in power do not like to have their power and authority threatened, as such, when a superpowered individual attempted to step up they would probably quickly find themselves facing off against the military.
in addition, I find it highly unlikely the entire 1% would want to rule, and/or have the ability to actually assert themselves in any meaningful way. so the questions then are how many want to 'take over' the world and of those how many have the actual power to do so? also, like the comics, I suspect we would see some superpowered folks step up to oppose those who would want to rule through force. as so, super heroes and super villains are born...
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Keep in mind is that 1% of the world population is still over 70million people.
Distribution would also be a factor. If it's fairly even across the globe I think it'd be less of a problem than if it were highly concentrated in a localized area. Given how large an impact on personal (and group) psychology nationality and/or ethnicity has, imagine if a significant portion of the superpowered individuals hailed from a single nation, region, ethnic group, religion, continent, etc.
They also forget that you will always get governments pumping resources into improving their normal troops etc. Having Hunter's that specialise in taking down powered targets etc after all unless your invulnerable or have insane regeneration, a bullet is still pretty nasty and you can have more soldiers than supers and thusly have them in more places at once.
Young hero's and villains are likely naive to how strong they actually are and likely make easy mistakes that veteran normal fighters can exploit to deal with a difference in power.
Reminds me of what my regenerator would say when she'd survive multiple gun shots and people would ask "Is there anything you're weak again." "More bullets." :p
Eventually, to many bullets will get that regenerator. :)
There is always quick dry cement. Like to see a regenerator or one of those immortals get out of having their lungs full of cement. Brings to mind that old question. "How much torture can an immortal suffer before going insane?"
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Wasn't there some Greek Demigod who got eaten by crows for eternity?
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That would be Prometheus
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Riiiight! As punishment for giving man fire.
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Per the City of Heroes comic, he also gave Positron similar fire to return superpowers to mankind. Technically, he wasn't the intended recipient but he intercepted it.
The thing with quick dry cement (and just drowning them) is the regenerator MIGHT be able to regenerate after being removed from those conditions.
Even the to many bullets is just a matter of it could put them down, but not likely kill them permanently.
Now...a nice volcano...