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MECH ASSAULT! OOC

Out of Character comments for Xselcier's [url=http://cityoftitans.com/forum/mech-assault-open-rp]MECH ASSAULT[/url] RP thread.

First question, continuity with regards to Children of Science: Is this after Simone's body is finished? After her powered armor is finished? And is Adam staying with the Morrison-O'Brians or is he getting his own place? If I'm about to guess wrong on these, I can edit later.

Am I correct that these transports are fixed-wing (or maybe lifting body) aircraft, with either vectored thrust or contragravity for hovering? If so, are they sticking around?

Last question, for LeadWanderer: Has the Icarus arrived in Titan City yet?

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It could be after the

It could be after the Children of Science time jump if you want it to be. I didn't really have a fixed time point in mind for this thread when it came pouring out of my head at 3:00 in the morning ;-D

Adam would probably stay with M&O unless they talked to it about getting its own place.

If contragravity is anything like repulsorlifts from Star Wars, then yes. No, they did not stick around. They are currently running away from a pack of F-35's that are hot on their tail.

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OK, went with at least a

OK, went with at least a partial timeslip. If Rotten wants to bring Simone in with her battlesuit, it can be the full timeslip.

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Okay I join in and we can let

Okay I join in and we can let this be the virgin flight of the battle system.

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If MIMIC can't fly on his own

If MIMIC can't fly on his own, there's a jetpack in the box for him, as well.

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He has his own form of

He has his own form of powered movement. I'm going to call it... Super Ninja Run. ;-D

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Would this be open RP?

Would this be open RP?

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Yes it is.

Yes it is.

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Alrighty then. I'm joining in

Alrighty then. I'm joining in.

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Whoa, I just realized I was

Whoa, I just realized I was mentioned in this!

Uhhhh I REALLY wanna play out the Icarus arriving, that sounds really fun. But it can be past referenced but it would also be really fun to have a lot of people think they're villains, so, making it later would be nice...

What is this thread about?!?! I love mechs... Just saying, I would lend enemies and heroes>.> Laserta are giant monster machines...

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What is it about? GIANT ROBOT

What is it about? GIANT ROBOT FIGHT!!!

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Giant Robot Dismantling. ^_^

Giant Robot Dismantling. ^_^

And please note that there are two more groups of ten mecha, besides the one Tink and the Children of Science! are engaging.

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Which one exactly are Tink

Which one exactly are Tink and the Children engaging?

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Target zero was the closest

Target zero was the closest of the smalls, target one would be the one Shifter went after. (0-5)
6-8 are mediums, 9 is the biggie.

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I'm sorry. I was unclear on

I'm sorry. I was unclear on that. I meant which group, but I just looked back at the RP and saw that it was the group near Old Bradford. So, never mind.

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Yeah, the tall one might be

Yeah, the tall one might be able to see their house...

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I'm assuming that AIko's full

I'm assuming that [Font=lucida bright]AIko's[/font] full spectrum scan caught the transmissions, even if she's too busy to decrypt them. Traffic Analysis. ^_^

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Just so you all know I'm

Just so you all know I'm playing Scattershot like an Energy blaster. Still thinking of secondary and mastery powers. Think I go ahead and say she has Energy Manipulation, and force Mastery.

Would make sense that Eric build weapons designed to force foes away from his Daughter lol.

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Xselcier wrote:
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holy light

These are not light powers gained from a divine entity and neither is he a divine entity, noting just for future reference.

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So, what was the yield? And

So, what was the yield, approximately? What happened to Target 9? And what's happening with [font=lucida bright]AIko[/font] and Target 2? And Scattershot's shot at Target 6?

/end "but what about---" ^_^

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Sorry, I was away from my

Sorry, I was away from my computer all of Saturday.

There's something I probably should have said earlier, but kept forgetting about. Considering the scope of this attack, people are free to say what their attacks are doing to the mechs. I do not consider them characters that I want to have a chance to react. They are merely a large flock of very dangerous NPC's, so feel free to beat the snot out of them! Have fun!

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Sorry, I've been at my

Sorry, I've been at my computer almost all weekend; my roommate was dragging me off to Draenor... ^_^

So Target Six should have no comms, not much left of the missile rack, plus whatever damage Scattershot did, Two should not be able to self destruct, One tried, and Zero never had the chance...

The T-Crates have a bunch of skyhooks, essentially a power cell, a magnetic grapple, a contragravity generator (and yes, that's like the Star Wars repulsorlift, but both Millie and Marianne are fans of Piper, I think they got it from Millie's dad...) and a tachyon thruster, with a simple computer and comm system to coordinate for lifting large loads. Figure each to have about a half a ton of lift at about two G for twenty minutes, not that these are likely to last that long on this kind of job...

I'm not sure if it's good news or bad news that no one at the park seems to know about the condition of the pilots yet.

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Draenor tempted me to wake my

Draenor tempted me to wake my Troll back up from the grave.

I'm hitting Writers block, or did it hit me? Anyway I post later once my brain decides to work.

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This looks really interesting

This looks really interesting! i was looking for something to involve my supervillain team in, and this is right up their alley, if you don't mind my saying so. If nothing else, the villain previously known as Tinker is going to want to get some salvage in order to reverse engineer the robots. Nobody minds if i step in, right?

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It's an open RP. Feel free.

It's an open RP. Feel free. Just don't get caught by any heroes... *evil grin*

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ooookay, that post turned out

ooookay, that post turned out a tad longer than I was expecting, but the trio is officially in the game.

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Welcome to the madness!

Welcome to the madness!

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WTF was I thinking having

WTF was I thinking having Liberty Girl kill one of the pilots?! I can only blame sleep deprivation. I've edited that post for anyone who wants to go back and read it.

I believe the only ones that are left from the Old Bradford group are Three, Four, and Five? The small mechs that went for the flank?

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Yeah, I forgot that they were

Yeah, I forgot that they were chasing or being chased by other heroes. I'll have to check on that...

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I think you missed responding

I think you missed responding to my post, Xsel.

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I'm assuming that you mean

I'm assuming that you mean RPing the mech responses to your characters actions, in which case I'll quote you my post from three days ago. :-)

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There's something I probably should have said earlier, but kept forgetting about. Considering the scope of this attack, people are free to say what their attacks are doing to the mechs. I do not consider them characters that I want to have a chance to react. They are merely a large flock of very dangerous NPC's, so feel free to beat the snot out of them! Have fun!

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Ah, okay, yeah I totally

Ah, okay, yeah I totally missed that. Thanks for clarifying.

EDIT: I mentioned in my latest post that the trio (we still need a name for their group!) will be fighting for almost an hour to take down the mechs safely. they could probably do it a lot faster if they weren't so eager to be careful and to save various pieces for Tinker to study, but there it is. Should be long enough for another hero to get involved, aye?

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You betcha!

You betcha!

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I'm thinking once the Old

I'm thinking once the Old Bradford Border squad is disabled and stable, Tinker Belle and The Children of Science! will head to Ephesus.

Closest character I have to Phoenix Plaza is the Bookwyrm under the Central Library. But she's not a hero, unless the bad guys are threatening her hoard/library. Next closest would be either Goldenrod (over at Whitehold, likely still asleep) or the Falcon (who teleports ^_^).

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That like my finn. He won't

That like my finn. He won't really get involved unless he must.

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Did I miss something? What

Did I miss something? What logo is Scattershot referring to [url=http://cityoftitans.com/comment/77358#comment-77358]here?[/url]

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That might be my error. I

That might be my error. I edit when i get home

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That might be my error. I

That might be my error. I edit when i get home

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Anyone else have problems of

Anyone else have problems of their posts vanishing? I'm sure I posted Scatter shot yelling at the alien Knight about the lives of the Pilots is the Pilots choice to live or die not his. Now I don't see it.

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I haven't experienced

I haven't experienced anything like that myself. Send in a bug report?

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Yeah I might do that.

Yeah I might do that. Thought at first I clicked the wrong button or something. Now however I seen two posts poof.

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I take it Scattershot heading

I take it Scattershot heading off to Phoenix Plaza was also in a now-missing post?

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And Tinker Belle isn't sure

And Tinker Belle isn't sure what ALX-32's professional ethics (if any ^_^) would let him tell her about his clients. But if she doesn't ask, how can she expect him to know she'd like to know? Ya know?

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Hey Face, I don't really get

Hey Face, I don't really get that last thing the alien said before he left? Care to enlighten us? :-)

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My guess is, he didn't

My guess is, he didn't volunteer to go into his armor, either.

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Foradain wrote:
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My guess is, he didn't volunteer to go into his armor, either.

That + his home planet is destroyed along with his real family. He never got to say goodbye.

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BTW, the weapon Tinker Belle

BTW, the weapon Tinker Belle is using now is a lot more powerful than the one she used (or tried to ^_^) at the unnamed villainous villainess trio's [url=http://cityoftitans.com/forum/supervillain-teams-first-heist]first bank robbery[/url]. ^_^

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-_- Yeah she responded to the

-_- Yeah she responded to the video being posted. As for ALX he won't give details about clients but won't lie either. Most of the cybernetic client are either someone getting an upgrade or "Special" upgrades or repairs.

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Well that's fine. The trio

Well that's fine. The trio are in much better gear themselves now, too, given they had the funds to get some new stuff this time :P

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I figured out what causing

I figured out what causing some posts go poof... my phone. Posts I made using that aren't being posted think it's because I'm near my data limit, or when I hit save it really doesn't.

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Halae, if Tinker decides to

Halae, if Tinker decides to fly off after Whipcrack presents his choices, give me a chance to reply before you do so. Thanks.

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Not necessary, given Tinker's

Not necessary, given Tinker's response, but I would have agreed to that.

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It would have just been so he

It would have just been so he could give her a way to contact him if she needed time to talk to her partners and do some thinking. :-)

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No offense Rott, but your

No offense Rott, but your last post (at least in regards to Tinker) is kinda godmod-y, what with making the assumption that Whipcrack's communicator is on, and that it can pick up the sound of tinker talking.

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My thoughts exactly, Halae.

My thoughts exactly, Halae.

Rott teleporting up there to see what's going on is one thing, but Whipcrack leaving his communicator on so that others could hear is not something he would do. He's trying to get this woman to trust him. Rott popping up there because he was listening in on the entire conversation will chase her away and cause a massive distrust of heroes in the future.

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Okay I delete it.

Okay I delete it.

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Thanks Rott, I appreciate it.

Thanks Rott, I appreciate it.

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No problem. I was kind of

No problem. I was kind of tired after work and didn't think it would be an issue. Figured given how Whipcrack and Rotten on the same team he would be hearing. Rping tired does that.

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On top of that I had a little

On top of that I had a little bit of story idea of a mission into Hel. Saw that as an opening. I think of something else.

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I do sort of like the idea,

I do sort of like the idea, yeah. It just has to come up in its own time.

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Still working on the idea

Still working on the idea itself. I don't want Hel to be a HELL. Hel didn't just take damned souls she took anyone that wasn't a Hero.

So far the setting I got in mind is Hel's Hall rests on a Mountain Helgafjell, where there is a city of souls that died but aren't damned. So they live in the afterlife much like they would living just free of suffering and pain. Then there the path over the bridge of Gjallarbrú that goes into the mountain where the realm of the dishonored and damned souls dwell. Much like the Christian HELL where torments are delivered to these Hel wishes to punish. Rotten having died trying to steal Hel's Jewel (that turned him into a draugr) would have ended up there. So when he portals into Hel's Realm he ends up in that area, being her Champion in midgard he can leave it and visit the more peaceful Mountain city.

For an adventure I would have to think some more about what they will see and face.

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Hate to bug you Xcelsier, but

Hate to bug you Xcelsier, but when are you going to post? It's been close to four days.

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I had a very busy weekend and

I had a very busy weekend and Monday. Sorry to keep you waiting.

I also wasn't sure how to reply. Whipcrack might know a way to fix the girls problem, but I didn't want to poke a giant glaring hole in your storyline.

I'll explain the situation here and see what you think about it.

I have a character, Flashpoint, who is a billionaire. She's the President, CEO, and chief stockholder of Promethean Dynamics, creator and distributor of the Torchbearer OS. She's also a highly respected and generous philanthropist. One of her outreach programs could be a treatment and recovery organization for civilians that have been gravely injured by super-battles. Sort of like the Wounded Warrior Project, if you're familiar with that. Whipcrack knows Flashpoint and could make this suggestion to her. It's something she'd be more than willing to do.

But like I said, I don't want to poke a hole in your narrative unless you're okay with it.

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"No plan survives contact

"No plan survives contact with the enemy" or so they say. I don't have a plan for this - it's a starting motivation first off, and was going to remain so for a while, so someone doing something with it is interesting. Don't worry about poking holes - just go for it :)

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Will do.

Will do.

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Question will Monitor or any

Question will Monitor or any of the Children of Science pick up on that transmission? And what would Monitor (not to mention ALX) get from analyzing the wreckage?

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Which transmission?

Which transmission?

As for the wreckage, they may be able to find something out with some sleuthing.

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Post 77. Either the ones the

[Url=http://cityoftitans.com/comment/78197#comment-78197]Post 77[/url]. Either the ones the figure was watching, or the new commands.

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Oh, sorry. Those commands

Oh, sorry. Those commands that were input instead of the destruct signal weren't sent to the mech pilots. Didn't mean to give that impression.

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Ah but there are VIDEO

Ah but there are VIDEO transmissions via the pilots to the figure watching the screens. So there are signals being sent from the pilots at least.

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*shakes his fist* You

*shakes his fist* You meddling kids!

It's possible that those transmissions could be found by our intrepid heroes...

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I've provided a plot hook for

I've provided a plot hook for you, Xcel. If you want to do a base assault, be my guest, though I will warn that it won't be easy if you decide to go for it :P

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Nah. Whipcrack is going to

Nah. Whipcrack is going to play fair and do exactly what he promised.

How do you think we should handle that story arc? Take it to another thread?

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I actually meant that the

I actually meant that the people who attacked the city probably located the base, not the heroes :P

Another story thread would be fine.

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Think Halae meant by the bad

Think Halae meant by the bad guys. ^_^

Point of information: Of the presumed 30 pilots, how many are missing?

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My bad. I posted to the OOC

My bad. I posted to the OOC before I'd read the RP. I thought you meant a hero assault led by Whipcrack.

*taps chin* It's tempting. I'll have to think on it.

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And apparently I was right. ^

And apparently I was right. ^_^

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By my count: 5 pilots are

By my count: 5 pilots are dead and 3 are missing, leaving 22 in Phoenix Plaza.

1 pilot was killed when it's mech crashed into the truck full of oxy-acetylene tanks. 4 more pilots were killed by Faceless's character.

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There also two dead by my

There also two dead by my villain attack bot Titanos

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Okay, thanks Rott. So that

Okay, thanks Rott. So that makes the count 20 in the Plaza and still 3 missing.

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Would this new incursion at

Would this new incursion at the robotics lab also be a source of the telemetry we're trying to trace?

And is that M&O's lab, or someone else's?

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It is not the source of the

It is not the source of the telemetry. The telemetry will be going up to a satellite.

I had not intended for it to be M&O's lab. Do you think it should be?

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The sources of the telemetry

The sources of the telemetry are the mechs that are sending video and maybe other data we're not yet aware of. Our heroes are attempting to find where it's going to, that would be the satellite. My question was, are the mechs that Leader has with him also sending data to the satellite? If so, Monitor's probe might notice it.

Whether it's M&O's lab depends on two things. The first is why Leader chose the location he did. M&O's lab is not primarily robotics, they've only made two complete bodies this year, Lexi's and Simone's, there are likely others that do more robotics. Second would be, do you want Tinker Belle and [font=lucida bright]AIko[/font] to be aware of it within a few seconds after Leader arrives? They can be there in considerably less than seventeen minutes... And the Falcon (Mr. Northbrook, to ALX-32) can be there in less than seventeen [I]seconds[/I] after he gets a phone call...

I'm now thinking that most of what we've seen so far is a diversion, designed to get emergency services out of the NERD and into Alexandria, though maybe if they hadn't been stopped the Ephesus University squad would've gone on to do the op that Leader is handling. But Our Heroes wouldn't realize this (or think this, if I'm off base) until after they find out about the new strike.

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The robots with Leader are

The robots with Leader are not sending out telemetry. They are only communicating with each other and with Leader. There is no indication that this heist has anything to do with the mech assault.

Given your explanation of M&O, I'm going to say that it is not their lab. Their lab would not have what Leader needs. So, for right now, it is just an advanced robotics lab in the NERD that currently has an intrusion alarm going off. I'd rather they not be [i]immediately[/i] aware of it, but I will leave their response time up to you.

The lab is located as far from Alexandria as possible, while still being inside the NERD.

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Halae, before I can have

Halae, before I can have forces assault your base, I'll need more information on it. Methods of entry beyond the bay entrance, size, depth underground (I'm assuming), outer defenses, etc.

Also, the base attack won't happen until after the assault mastermind has finished their tasks elsewhere in the city. As far as they are concerned, the mechs/pilots are expendable and they will only consider a 'rescue' after they have attained their primary goal.

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That's fine, I just wasn't

That's fine, I just wasn't aware of what was going on with it.

For specs, the bay entrance is the only one that the mech's leadership would be aware of, given that's where the trio brought the mechs in. The base itself is about the size of a large house with a tunnel leading to the entrance and a tunnel leading directly up toward the surface. Said tunnels have retractable turrets along the walls for aiming at intruders. It's only about fifty feet underground, though - the bay entrance is about 300 feet long. This was made by a bunch of beginners, they just wanted somewhere to be rather than trying to rent out a warehouse or something. "outer defenses" is basically the camouflaged outer doors, so they're not liable to find those a problem if they know where the entrances are.

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It'll likely be a while

It'll likely be a while before Tinker Belle gets to The Terrible Trio's bolt hole; she's keeping her speed down while she scans.

The second of the two spare flight packs would be for Shifter. If he can't use it, or if Scattershot's suit can't reach low Earth orbit, they'll have to use the Gooney Bird to check out the satellite, once they've pinned its location down. The Gooney Bird is a highly modified [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_DC-3]DC-3[/url]. There's a reason they've installed an airlock...

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Got an idea about that lab

Got an idea about that lab being attacked. What if it was the lab Eric works in. They were doing robotic and nanite research. True I said it was Night industries lab but given Nightmare hasn't shown up I can change the name with a few edits. Recon.. it's not just for comics!

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RottenLuck wrote:
RottenLuck wrote:

Got an idea about that lab being attacked. What if it was the lab Eric works in. They were doing robotic and nanite research. True I said it was Night industries lab but given Nightmare hasn't shown up I can change the name with a few edits. Recon.. it's not just for comics!

That'll probably get more attention than just some random robotics lab. So yeah, let's go with that.

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Yes, his name is Sam Beckett

Yes, his name is Sam Beckett and yes, his parents were fans. That is all.

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Sorry to slip in Sandman

Sorry to slip in Sandman there Xselcier just was way to much of a temptation not to. it be something he would have done himself if he had the tech to build a Mech force. I was thinking of setting a building on fire. So when this happened and seeing it was a diversion tactic... well.

For some reason my villains are opportunistic. They don't cause trouble but when they see something that catches their attention or fits in their goals they go for it.

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